normiss 906 #1 February 20, 2008 Damn Skippy! fucking loonies... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #2 February 20, 2008 Quote Damn Skippy! fucking loonies... Allowing loonies to have guns IS a big PR problem for responsible gun owners.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #3 February 20, 2008 The laws and processes are in place. They need to be used and adhered to. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 February 21, 2008 Quote Quote Damn Skippy! fucking loonies... Allowing loonies to have guns IS a big PR problem for responsible gun owners. And allowing responsible gun owners to have guns is an even BIGGER problem for loonies. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #5 February 21, 2008 QuoteThe laws and processes are in place. They need to be used and adhered to. If they were both CCW holders then it would appear that the laws and processes are flawed in this case. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #6 February 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe laws and processes are in place. They need to be used and adhered to. If they were both CCW holders then it would appear that the laws and processes are flawed in this case. hardly, unless you think laws only work if they're 100% successful. The laws fail if they continue to be CCW holders. Just as the Brady Bill failed horribly because the Clinton and Bush Adminstrations refused to prosecute those who tried to obtain weapons. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #7 February 21, 2008 QuoteQuoteThe laws and processes are in place. They need to be used and adhered to. If they were both CCW holders then it would appear that the laws and processes are flawed in this case. Yes, in much the same way as the laws are flawed if a person with a license to operate a car killed someone in a street race. Clearly, vehicles should be kept out of the hands of people who may be troublesome. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #8 February 21, 2008 >Yes, in much the same way as the laws are flawed if a person with >a license to operate a car killed someone in a street race. It would, however, indicate that perhaps they should not have had a license. And rather than saying "no one can do anything about street racing, ever, because they had licenses!" it might be worthwhile looking into what age they were, what sort of license they had, what sort of driver's ed they had etc. to see if anything about the process can be improved. Of course, if you suggested that, it would mean you hated and feared cars and wanted to ban them all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #9 February 21, 2008 How is it or will it ever be possible to simply look at someone and make the jugement that they will make a very poor decision and it may affect another's life? That's what people expect out of the process, isn't it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BIGUN 1,507 #10 February 21, 2008 Quote then it would appear that the laws and processes are flawed in this case The laws aren't flawed... In this case, all common sense went right out the window. Nobody has time to listen; because they're desperately chasing the need of being heard. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #11 February 21, 2008 Hmm. I just read th earticle - a corrections officer. D'Oh! Government employee who may be called upon to use deadly force. My god. What are we coming to when we can't even trust government employees anymore? Next thing you know, they'll be in charge of prisoners and stuff - maybe even out there to PREVENT crimes. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #12 February 21, 2008 Quote>Yes, in much the same way as the laws are flawed if a person with >a license to operate a car killed someone in a street race. It would, however, indicate that perhaps they should not have had a license. And rather than saying "no one can do anything about street racing, ever, because they had licenses!" it might be worthwhile looking into what age they were, what sort of license they had, what sort of driver's ed they had etc. to see if anything about the process can be improved. Of course, if you suggested that, it would mean you hated and feared cars and wanted to ban them all. Bullshit - you can buy a car without a license, without driver's ed training, etc....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
piper17 1 #13 February 21, 2008 *** Absolutely right. Illegal aliens do it every day in this country!"A man can never have too much red wine, too many books, or too much ammunition"...Rudyard Kipling Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #14 February 21, 2008 QuoteQuote>Yes, in much the same way as the laws are flawed if a person with >a license to operate a car killed someone in a street race. It would, however, indicate that perhaps they should not have had a license. And rather than saying "no one can do anything about street racing, ever, because they had licenses!" it might be worthwhile looking into what age they were, what sort of license they had, what sort of driver's ed they had etc. to see if anything about the process can be improved. Of course, if you suggested that, it would mean you hated and feared cars and wanted to ban them all. Bullshit - you can buy a car without a license, without driver's ed training, etc.... Just like I just walked into DMV and 30 minutes later I'm a licensed motorcycle driver. No training, just 750 cc's between my legs."I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #15 February 21, 2008 In FL at least...written test and practical test for scooter licenses. Insurance discount for taking an approved rider course. CCW - gun safety class / training / DD214 required, background check and finger printing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 February 21, 2008 QuoteIn FL at least...written test and practical test for scooter licenses. Insurance discount for taking an approved rider course. CCW - gun safety class / training / DD214 required, background check and finger printing. For licensing, yes... not purchase, which is the comparison Bill was making.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #17 February 21, 2008 doh! to purchase eith a weapon or a car requires no license of any kind here. Cooling off period for guns if you don't have a CCW...supposedly giving them time to process the background check. Unless you buy from an individual...no requirements. A car purchased under a loan, we have 72 hours to cancel. Laws are nice for those of us that follow them... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #18 February 21, 2008 Quote Hmm. I just read th earticle - a corrections officer. D'Oh! Government employee who may be called upon to use deadly force. My god. What are we coming to when we can't even trust government employees anymore? Next thing you know, they'll be in charge of prisoners and stuff - maybe even out there to PREVENT crimes. I think this incident shows this guy maybe shouldn't be a corrections officer either. And I think there are enough incidents out there to see that being a government employee doesn't mean you can keep your temper in check. That sarcastic statement is certainly better suited for a proscecutor than a defense lawyer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #19 February 21, 2008 >Bullshit - you can buy a car without a license, without driver's ed training, etc.... You can not legally drive a car without a license. And most people caught drag racing on public streets do have licenses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #20 February 21, 2008 Quote >Bullshit - you can buy a car without a license, without driver's ed training, etc.... You can not legally drive a car without a license. And most people caught drag racing on public streets do have licenses. This made me think of when Homer Simpson forgot his driver's license and was shocked when the car started up anyway. -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 February 21, 2008 Quote>Bullshit - you can buy a car without a license, without driver's ed training, etc.... You can not legally drive a car without a license. And most people caught drag racing on public streets do have licenses. On your own property, you can do anything. Few people have the amount of property that would permit such an exercise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #22 February 21, 2008 That's the issue at hand in this story. Except his property was parked on their property! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NelKel 0 #23 February 21, 2008 This goes beyond CCW. According to the new article the father, after dropping the kids off, went back to "hunt" down the guy who rammed him with the car. Something about he was crouching in a yard to take a shot at the other guy. Now that strikes me as unlawful. Perhaps the father was resorting back to when he was a corrections officer, and believed he was justified by his actions. I believe he should have been arrested and should loose his CCW permit due to his actions of "hunting down the guy". He could have found the guy and relayed that info to the police so the other could have been arrested, not open fire. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CanuckInUSA 0 #24 February 21, 2008 Quoteand should loose his CCW permit due If he is allowed to keep a CCW permit, it just mocks the whole premise behind these permits. This man is not stable and should not be thought of as a responsible person in society who is allowed to own and carry firearms in public. Try not to worry about the things you have no control over Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
normiss 906 #25 February 22, 2008 according to reports, they were both arrested and charged with firearms violations and the coppers said their first effort would be the cancellation of both CCW's. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
