vortexring 0 #1 February 17, 2008 Obama worship has echoes of the Third Reich: 'This Barack Obama frenzy is getting out of hand. A Left-wing friend has emailed me a YouTube Obama propaganda video that reminds him - in technique - of Leni Riefenstahl's Hitler-worshipping film Triumph Of The Will. I see what he means. To an insistent beat, impossibly beautiful, multiracial young men and women endlessly repeat the slogan "Yes, we can", in a disturbingly mindless way. The thing contains no thought, no argument - just Obama worship. Compared with this cult-like stuff, Hillary Clinton's clumping old-fashioned Leftism is almost reassuring.' Blimey - so said by a British journalist. Essentially, if you've the finance, it wouldn't exactly be difficult to groom a particular candidate of your choice to become the President. It obviously worked for Georgie. Now that's a bit spooky. Both Obama being compared to Hitler and the fact pretty much any monkey can become the Boss! I think our Western beliefs of democracy are fast becoming outdated. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #2 February 17, 2008 You see this nonsense all of the time whenever there's a large gathering of leftists. They get some lame ass chant that has a rhyme to it, and everybody keeps repeating it. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been doing it for years. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gene03 0 #3 February 17, 2008 ...And why does this surprise you? Don't Think, DRINK.“The only fool bigger than the person who knows it all is the person who argues with him. Stanislaw Jerzy Lec quotes (Polish writer, poet and satirist 1906-1966) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #4 February 17, 2008 The word 'change' is a very moving powerful word. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #5 February 18, 2008 Well, did I say I was surprised? Nein.Hahaha 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #6 February 18, 2008 Quote The word 'change' is a very moving powerful word. Nobody ever seems to welcome it do they? That sometimes puzzles me. If it's for the better, why argue the opposite until hell freezes over? Sometimes I wish I had a 'change' stick I could set about people with at work. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #7 February 18, 2008 What surprises me is the absolute unoriginal concept of immediately comparing anyone that is in the opposition party to the Nazi regime. Nice one. Uh, let me just remind everyone involved that the Third Reich was anything but "multiracial".quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GQ_jumper 4 #8 February 18, 2008 What surprises me is the absolute unoriginal concept of immediately comparing anyone that is in the opposition party to the Nazi regime. Nice one Quote Amazon has been doing it for years with the current administration, its the cool thing to do, all the dissenters are doing it History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #9 February 18, 2008 Nonsense - first of all the main point has nothing to do with 'multiracialism' and secondly; you'd be perhaps better off looking at the culture and society surrounding the early Nazi movements. Ok? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #10 February 18, 2008 Quote Amazon has been doing it for years with the current administration, its the cool thing to do, all the dissenters are doing it Hmmm, thought never would have occurred to me. The 43rd Administration never appeared that way to me. It has a LOT of other problems, but I didn't think genocide was one of them. I have so many other reasons to not like them, but that isn't one that is included.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #11 February 18, 2008 QuoteNonsense - first of all the main point has nothing to do with 'multiracialism' and secondly; you'd be perhaps better off looking at the culture and society surrounding the early Nazi movements. Ok? QuoteI see what he means. To an insistent beat, impossibly beautiful, multiracial young men and women endlessly repeat the slogan "Yes, we can", in a disturbingly mindless way. Uh . . . I was quoting YOU. You said, "multiracial" when talking about the similarities between the Obama supporters and the Third Reich. YOU, not me. You are clearly the one in significant need of education if you think somehow that applies to both.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #12 February 18, 2008 Quote Quote Nonsense - first of all the main point has nothing to do with 'multiracialism' and secondly; you'd be perhaps better off looking at the culture and society surrounding the early Nazi movements. Ok? Quote I see what he means. To an insistent beat, impossibly beautiful, multiracial young men and women endlessly repeat the slogan "Yes, we can", in a disturbingly mindless way. Uh . . . I was quoting YOU. You said, "multiracial" when talking about the similarities between the Obama supporters and the Third Reich. YOU, not me. You are clearly the one in significant need of education if you think somehow that applies to both. Nonsense again! I didn't claim not to mention 'multiracialism' as that's now what you seem to be clinging onto. This was never the main point behind the post. My main point doesn't revolve around 'multiracialism.' So, to reiterate; it isn't the main point, and if it were, you'd be wrong. So who's in need of education then? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #13 February 18, 2008 So, if it wasn't the "main point" then why did you include the term? No. I can clearly see what your "main point" is and I think it stinks.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #14 February 18, 2008 Good for you - I'd recomend some Febreze. Why does a particular word I include in a sentence or phrase become the main point?Still believe the early Nazi party wasn't multiracial? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #15 February 18, 2008 The technique was very successful. Why wouldn't people use it? I would say that connecting political technique with political ideology is spurious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #16 February 18, 2008 I almost said that's a 'fair comment' to your reply. But it isn't. Look at history - the Nazi regime wasn't spurious was it? So therefore, the political methology and reaction can't be thrown into the 'just spurious' bin can it? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #17 February 18, 2008 Quote What surprises me is the absolute unoriginal concept of immediately comparing anyone that is in the opposition party to the Nazi regime. Nice one Quote Amazon has been doing it for years with the current administration, its the cool thing to do, all the dissenters are doing it Ooooh - that's going to hurt when she reads that - you'll be wishing yourself in Sangin armed with a feather duster instead. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kschilk 0 #18 February 18, 2008 Quote What surprises me is the absolute unoriginal concept of immediately comparing anyone that is in the opposition party to the Nazi regime. Nice one. Uh, let me just remind everyone involved that the Third Reich was anything but "multiracial". The observation might be even more pertinent, were it applied to the entire country, not just one man or party. Look at the recent "purification" efforts....the "national language" hysteria, the sealing of the borders and the war against immigration, the national ID, increased gun control....aimed at disarming the citizenry, the unmitigated leaps toward autocratic government....not a lot different, than late 30s Germany. No need to worry, though....it can't happen here! "T'was ever thus." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #19 February 18, 2008 Actually the Nazi regime of the time they were running in democratic elections was indeed spurious. From the Oxford American Dictionary: Spurious- adjective not being what it purports to be; false or fake Sounds like them. However I was actually referring to the relationship between things - (of a line of reasoning) apparently but not actually valid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #20 February 18, 2008 Well, in a sense yes. But if we look at the history of the issue we could argue; in a sense, no. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #21 February 18, 2008 Apparently, but not actually. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #22 February 18, 2008 Got a link to the video??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #23 February 18, 2008 QuoteYou see this nonsense all of the time whenever there's a large gathering of leftists. They get some lame ass chant that has a rhyme to it, and everybody keeps repeating it. Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton have been doing it for years. I'm not sure leftists have the monopoly on this behaviour. It is found in every church on every Sunday; at mostly every NBA game, especially when the Lakers are on the road (BEAT LA); whenever a pop star sings a popular tune at a concert; and even 4 years ago at the RNC (4 MORE YEARS), as it will be seen again many times this year on both the reps and dems side. When people congregate, they tend to act as sheeps do. It makes us feel all warm and fuzzy inside. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #24 February 18, 2008 QuoteAmazon has been doing it for years with the current administration, its the cool thing to do, all the dissenters are doing it When there are SO many parallels.. the right makes it far to easy when they are goose stepping to the fascist drumbeat. http://oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm 14 Points of fascism In his original article, "Fascism Anyone?", Laurence Britt (interview) compared the regimes of Hitler, Mussolini, Franco, Suharto, and Pinochet and identified 14 characteristics common to those fascist regimes. This page is a collection of news articles dating from the start of the Bush presidency divided into topics relating to each of the 14 points of fascism. Further analysis of American Fascism done by the POAC can be read here. Bottom line is.. if you dont want the NAME.. Dont play the fascist GAME. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #25 February 18, 2008 I guess Obama is doing pretty well, that so much hatred is getting directed towards him so quickly. Heck, he's almost getting as many Hitler comparisons as Hillary lately! I bet if he wins Texas, you won't be able to find a Hillary slam for all the "bad stuff 'bout Barack" on right winger websites. (Hey, did you hear he's really a Muslim? That he hates the Bible? That his middle name is Saddam Hussein?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites