Muenkel 0 #26 February 18, 2008 Enough of this 'Americans are morons' business. The answer is Olympia, and I didn't look it up. BTW Lawrocket, that wasn't aimed at you. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #27 February 18, 2008 LOL....yeah. In 6th grade in Fordyce public schools, we had to learn the capitals of all the Western European countries...and THEN some. Don't know if we did "Hungry" then though. (we did....). Never won a geography award. Only the spelling bee.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 February 18, 2008 Thank the NEA...student's self-esteem is *MUCH* more important than actually LEARNING something, don't you know.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #29 February 18, 2008 QuoteThank the NEA...student's self-esteem is *MUCH* more important than actually LEARNING something, don't you know. The NEA does not make school policy. Elected school boards make public school policy, and generally a board of trustees makes private school policy. Not that facts should stand in the way of your sound bite.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #30 February 18, 2008 Quote Elected school boards make public school policy, and generally a board of trustees makes private school policy. Lets not even mention the concerted effort for the last 20 some odd years to counter the NEA by the far right . They wanted to make sure THEY controlled the school boards all over the country. Eventually we end up with Madrassas instead of schools.. considering what some of these people see as acceptable books to use for teaching. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 February 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteThank the NEA...student's self-esteem is *MUCH* more important than actually LEARNING something, don't you know. The NEA does not make school policy. Elected school boards make public school policy, and generally a board of trustees makes private school policy. Not that facts should stand in the way of your sound bite. It's well known that the NEA has an agenda... and their members are the teachers and staff of the schools, who make and implement the lesson plans. Peddle it somewhere else, Perfesser....I ain't buyin. I *saw* the change as I was going through school.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #32 February 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteThank the NEA...student's self-esteem is *MUCH* more important than actually LEARNING something, don't you know. The NEA does not make school policy. Elected school boards make public school policy, and generally a board of trustees makes private school policy. Not that facts should stand in the way of your sound bite. It's well known that the NEA has an agenda... and their members are the teachers and staff of the schools, who make and implement the lesson plans. Peddle it somewhere else, Perfesser....I ain't buyin. I *saw* the change as I was going through school. Don't let facts stand in the way of your opinions. That would never do.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 February 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteThank the NEA...student's self-esteem is *MUCH* more important than actually LEARNING something, don't you know. The NEA does not make school policy. Elected school boards make public school policy, and generally a board of trustees makes private school policy. Not that facts should stand in the way of your sound bite. It's well known that the NEA has an agenda... and their members are the teachers and staff of the schools, who make and implement the lesson plans. Peddle it somewhere else, Perfesser....I ain't buyin. I *saw* the change as I was going through school. Don't let facts stand in the way of your opinions. That would never do. I know - I see it quite often in your posts.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hausse 0 #34 February 18, 2008 QuoteQuote Elected school boards make public school policy, and generally a board of trustees makes private school policy. Lets not even mention the concerted effort for the last 20 some odd years to counter the NEA by the far right . They wanted to make sure THEY controlled the school boards all over the country. Eventually we end up with Madrassas instead of schools.. considering what some of these people see as acceptable books to use for teaching. I agree. Seeing that some schools seriously teach the bible and creation it's no wonder that nobody knows anything that's actually helpful... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muenkel 0 #35 February 18, 2008 I love how this woman uses Kellie Pickler as an example of a moron. Kellie is definitely not the most educated young lady on the planet, but she grew up poor with incredibly difficult family circumstances. Yet, she used the talent she was born with and found a way to make a success of herself. She's about 21 years old and makes more money than most Harvard grads. We're all born with different gifts. Those who learn how to use those gifts and make a better life for themselves are not morons. _________________________________________ Chris Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #36 February 18, 2008 QuoteLets not even mention the concerted effort for the last 20 some odd years to counter the NEA by the far right . They wanted to make sure THEY controlled the school boards all over the country. Eventually we end up with Madrassas instead of schools.. considering what some of these people see as acceptable books to use for teaching. Does this qualify as one? From Sports Illustrated (no idea where SI.com considered to fall in the MSM spectrum), "Kansas HS refuses female official: St. Mary's Acad. says woman cannot ref boys game "Kansas activities officials are investigating a religious school's refusal to let a female referee call a boys' high school basketball game. "The Kansas State High School Activities Association said referees reported that Michelle Campbell was preparing to officiate at St. Mary's Academy near Topeka on Feb. 2 when a school official insisted that Campbell could not call the game. "The reason given, according to the referees: Campbell, as a woman, could not be put in a position of authority over boys because of the academy's beliefs." "Authority" = refereeing a basketball game? "... she [Campbell] told The Kansas City Star that she was 'dumbfounded' by the incident but that she is not angry at the school. She said she does not want the situation to go any further than it already has. "'This issue was going to come up eventually,' said Campbell, 49, a retired Albuquerque, N.M., police officer who now lives in Ozawkie, Kan. 'I just happened to be the person who was there this time.' "'It's kind of a sticky situation. It needs to be looked at carefully, slowly, with all the facts.'" My favorite part: "'When I found out what the emergency was, I said there was no way I was going to work those games,' said [Fred] Shockey, who spent 12 years in the Army and became a ref about three years ago. 'I have been led by some of the finest women this nation has to offer, and there was no way I was going to go along with that.'" VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #37 February 18, 2008 >Seeing that some schools seriously teach the bible and creation it's >no wonder that nobody knows anything that's actually helpful... In 1963, Richard Hofstadter' wrote a book "Anti-Intellectualism in American Life" that talks to this same phenomenon. There's a trend towards anti-intellectualism that seems to correlate with the increasing complexity of society, and the increasing base of knowledge that we all have access to. Simplify one's world, and it becomes easier to manage - and one's self esteem rises when one feels it's easier to grasp this simplified world. Witness our newfound penchant for "folksy" presidents instead of nerdy geeks who speak French and write books. Look at the support we're seeing for creationism, climate change denial, 9/11 conspiracy theories, bizarre cults that involve spaceships and human destiny, and the latest food or medicine scare. (Scare of the day - Hillary Clinton is full of E Coli! Quick! Quarantine her!) We have access to far more information than ever before. You can look up the names of Neptune's moons in less time it took me to type this sentence. Yet fewer people know that Neptune _has_ moons than ever before. It is becoming easier and easier to manipulate people through their ignorance, and indeed people are no longer concerned that their positions have few factual underpinnings. After all, there is so much available on the World Wide Web, you can find a few bits of evidence to support any outlandish proposition. Jacoby calls this "junk thought" which is a good term for it. For a populace used to an endless flow of half-true trivia through mass media (now in HD and Dolby 5.1!) it's not such a surprise. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #38 February 18, 2008 QuoteDoes this qualify as one? Yes that is a good start Her eis another http://www.publiceye.org/ifas/fw/9211/vista.html Religious right takes school board In Vista, California, Christian right candidates gained a majority on the school board of the Vista Unified School District. "People are scared," said Joyce Lee, a pastor's wife, and one of the new board members. "They think we're weirdos coming out of the sky to destroy public education." According to the Los Angeles Times, the new board majority will advocate the following changes: Reduce access to library books. Teach that creationism has as much scientific merit as evolution. Restructure sex education to exclude information about how AIDS is spread through homosexual sex, and reduce opportunities to learn about contraception. Lee recommends that her critics visit the Institute for Creation Research, saying a friend of hers went on their tour and was converted from an atheist to a Christian. And another http://www.democracynow.org/1997/10/1/christian_coalition_and_school_boards Christian Coalition and School Boards Former Christian Coalition director Ralph Reed used to say that he would rather elect 1,000 school board members than a single president because the future of America will be determined by the principal’s office, not the Oval Office. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #39 February 19, 2008 Quote ok.... confession time. When I first read this thread, I read it as "Mormons are taking over the world" and I had to think REALLY hard to try to see how that link had ANYTHING to do with Utah or John Smith or ...... then I looked at the title again and it hit me. But hey, at least I'm taking over the world! I did the same thing! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites