Viking 0 #1 February 15, 2008 what a shocker! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AA_dgRdDhk&feature=related QuoteCOLUMBUS, Ohio -- Police said a desk clerk shot a man who was attempting to rob an east side motel on Saturday night. Officers said that shortly before 9:30 p.m., a man walked into the Super 8 Motel, located at 2055 Brice Rd., showed a gun and demanded money. Police said the desk clerk on duty then shot the alleged robber, Antoine Stephens. Stephens, 20, was transported to Grant Medical Center and was in serious condition on Sunday morning, NBC 4 reported. Police said he would be charged with aggravated robbery. 3 shots fired, all 3 hit the bad guy, gun was a glock 23, 40cal with 165g Gold dots no charges filed agenst shooter, badguy went to prison. and to the people that are gonna say Oh well if they would have just given him the money noone would have gotten hurt! What do you think the cops would have done if they showed up right as the guy was coming out of the Hotel with a gun? Kuddo to the guy for being able to hit the guy three times after getting shot at in a panic situation.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #2 February 15, 2008 Fat girls make good screens, in order to conceal the draw. Good move on his part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 February 15, 2008 OMG.... out little Viking is now all grown up.. And posting to SC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #4 February 15, 2008 There was a gun and somebody got shot. This has got to stop. Quoteif they would have just given him the money noone would have gotten hurt! It might have been a fake gun. The clerk had no business defending himself. Next thing you know, people will be taking guns in schools for self defense. We can't have that. QuoteWhat do you think the cops would have done if they showed up right as the guy was coming out of the Hotel with a gun? Become defendants in a civil rights lawsuit. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FreeflyChile 0 #5 February 15, 2008 Quote Kuddo to the guy for being able to hit the guy three times after getting shot at in a panic situation. Admittedly I did not watch the youtube video, but in the part you quoted it said 3 shots fired, 3 hit the gunman. So when did the clerk get shot at? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #6 February 15, 2008 I disagree with your whole post. I think the clerk was right to defend himself even if no shot was fired by the robber. The possibility of the robber's gun being fake should not even be considered. I think any armed robber should be treated just like that one was, whether or not they arm themselves with a real or fake gun. If someone threatens me with my life the first chance I get I will respond with lethal force. No one has the right to threaten my life with out consequences. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LongWayToFall 0 #7 February 15, 2008 damn, the clerk was a dumbass. firing a gun 1 foot away from a kid? if there was nobody else there, then it would make sense. also, the guy was running away! shoot him once, and if he is trying to get out of there let him go. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #8 February 15, 2008 The robber fired one shot just before running away. You can see the ceiling material floating around in the air plus the clerk ducked right before he opened fire. What would you do if you had a gun in your hand and this guy put a round over your head? Ya i'd shoot his ass too. Running away or not I'm returning fire b/c he just tried to kill me.I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #9 February 15, 2008 QuoteI disagree with your whole post. I think the clerk was right to defend himself even if no shot was fired by the robber. The possibility of the robber's gun being fake should not even be considered. I think any armed robber should be treated just like that one was, whether or not they arm themselves with a real or fake gun. If someone threatens me with my life the first chance I get I will respond with lethal force. No one has the right to threaten my life with out consequences. My whole post was facetious. Sometimes I tend to forget that sarcasm cannot be fully indicated in a post. But you raise an interesting point - such comments as I posted are pretty common. Plenty of people out there actually truly believe every word I posted. I can't even get ridiculous anymore without people believing I meant it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
beowulf 1 #10 February 15, 2008 Oh,, in that case I agree with your postYeah it's hard to tell these days. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 February 15, 2008 Quote My whole post was facetious. Some of us realized that."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #12 February 15, 2008 QuoteThe robber fired one shot just before running away. You can see the ceiling material floating around in the air plus the clerk ducked right before he opened fire. What would you do if you had a gun in your hand and this guy put a round over your head? Ya i'd shoot his ass too. Running away or not I'm returning fire b/c he just tried to kill me. The robber fired the shot after the clerk "telegraphed" his intentions. Personally, I would not charge the clerk if I was a judge, but that clerk was very not-subtle drawing his weapon. I think the clerk was an idiot because he was matched 1 to 1 with the gunman and put the mother and child at risk. He was stupid and very lucky. Anybody else who uses firearms in their line of work agree or disagree?_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #13 February 15, 2008 QuoteI think the clerk was an idiot because he was matched 1 to 1 with the gunman and put the mother and child at risk. On the other hand, did the gunman not put them at risk? Was the gunman an idiot? The gunman would only be an idiot had he THOUGHT he would be matched 1 to 1 with someone else. Had the gunman known or suspected the clekr had a gun, he likely would have gone elsewhere. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #14 February 15, 2008 Quote The robber fired the shot after the clerk "telegraphed" his intentions. Personally, I would not charge the clerk if I was a judge, but that clerk was very not-subtle drawing his weapon. I think the clerk was an idiot because he was matched 1 to 1 with the gunman and put the mother and child at risk. He was stupid and very lucky. How may times have we seen news stories, (and videos), of victims of armed robberies who cooperated fully, but were shot anyway? Being passive is no guarantee of safety when dealing with a scumbag."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #15 February 15, 2008 QuoteOn the other hand, did the gunman not put them at risk? Yes he did. There's one asshole risking lives for his own selfish reasons. Who know's what the other asshole was thinking. Quote Was the gunman an idiot? the gunman got what he deserved. No Question. QuoteThe gunman would only be an idiot had he THOUGHT he would be matched 1 to 1 with someone else. Had the gunman known or suspected the clekr had a gun, he likely would have gone elsewhere. I was talking about the clerk. But you are right. The gunman would not have gone in there if he thought there would be resistance. I'm not anti-second Amendment by a long shot (I own weapons), but this video shows stupidity and is only good ammo for the Amendment to novice eyes. The reason the heading of that video was positive was because nobody got hurt. That was a successful exchange by luck._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #16 February 16, 2008 QuoteHow may times have we seen news stories, (and videos), of victims of armed robberies who cooperated fully, but were shot anyway? Being passive is no guarantee of safety when dealing with a scumbag. Too many i have to agree. You are right, there is no guarantee. What complicates things is third party presence. He didn't have the upper hand. I believe the clerk had a better chance of getting other people hurt than protecting them from the robber in the first place._____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #17 February 16, 2008 Well part of the problem was that lady with the kid just scooting her kid a foot or so away from the robber with a gun! I understand shock and that it takes a while to process things in a situation like that but jesus the first thing i'd do is get infront of my kid and get to the other end of the room!!I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #18 February 16, 2008 QuoteWell part of the problem was that lady with the kid just scooting her kid a foot or so away from the robber with a gun! I understand shock and that it takes a while to process things in a situation like that but jesus the first thing i'd do is get infront of my kid and get to the other end of the room!! [The Count]"Three. . .Three stupid people in the video. . . AAAhh. . .AAAhh. . .AAAhh. . .AAAAAAhh[/The Count]_____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Viking 0 #19 February 16, 2008 LOL smartass I swear you must have footprints on the back of your helmet - chicagoskydiver My God has a bigger dick than your god -George Carlin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites