jacketsdb23 49 #1 February 15, 2008 Scenario: Barack Obama wins the pledged delegate count and the popular vote. Hillary has the support of more superdelegates so a "backroom" deal is made and she comes out of the convention with the nomination. Most experts i've heard or read about say they think the superdelegates would jump ship on Hillary if Obama has the pledged delegate lead. However, say this "backroom" deal gets done and Hillary comes out with the nomination. My question is what would prevent Obama from splitting from the Democratic Party and running for president as an Independent ala Ross Perot? Highly unlikely but I'm wondering about your thoughts on this outside the box idea? I feel like the Democratic party would already be split if this "backroom" deal gets done, so it doesn't seem so crazy a thought.Losers make excuses, Winners make it happen God is Good Beer is Great Swoopers are crazy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #2 February 15, 2008 The 2000 election would remain unacceptable to the Democratic Party. But, rules are rules - so long as your gal wins. I actually wouldn't hold it against the Dems because it's the way the game is set up. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #3 February 15, 2008 >Most experts i've heard or read about say they think the superdelegates >would jump ship on Hillary if Obama has the pledged delegate lead. They are already doing so: ====================== WASHINGTON (AP) – In a fresh sign of trouble for Hillary Rodham Clinton, one of the former first lady's congressional black supporters intends to vote for Barack Obama at the Democratic National Convention, and a second, more prominent lawmaker is openly discussing a possible switch. Rep. David Scott's defection and Rep. John Lewis' remarks highlight one of the challenges confronting Clinton in a campaign that pits a black man against a woman for a nomination that historically has been the exclusive property of white men. . . . Christine Samuels, until this week a Clinton superdelegate from New Jersey, said during the day she is now supporting Obama. Two other superdelegates, Sophie Masloff of Pennsylvania and Nancy Larson of Minnesota, are uncommitted, having dropped their earlier endorsements of Clinton. ======================== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #4 February 15, 2008 QuoteScenario: Barack Obama wins the pledged delegate count and the popular vote. Hillary has the support of more superdelegates so a "backroom" deal is made and she comes out of the convention with the nomination. If the Super-Delegates line up behind Sen. Obama, then the Clintons will sue over Florida and Michigan primaries. The party will fracture. Sen. Clinton will not go quietly into the night. QuoteMy question is what would prevent Obama from splitting from the Democratic Party and running for president as an Independent ala Ross Perot? Highly unlikely but I'm wondering about your thoughts on this outside the box idea? I feel like the Democratic party would already be split if this "backroom" deal gets done, so it doesn't seem so crazy a thought. If that were to happen, then that would put Sen. McCain on top. I believe that Sen. Obama will get the democratic nomination. The Clinton Campaign will cause some damage in their exit off the stage, but the party will be weakened. By then, Sen. McCain's outfit should be ready to bear down on the other ticket over major policy matters. Sen. Obama's message is not changing, or becoming any more in depth. He voted against FISA this past week, and that makes him weak on the war and in the pursuit of terrorists. He believes that we can sit down and talk with tyrants, he's said that he would invade Pakistan, and he holds the progressive model of the 1920s near and dear on his road-map. Never mind that it was those old progressive ideas that prolonged the depression. Never mind that sitting down with tyrants is not good form. Never mind that Pakistan, as dangerous a place as it is, and a nuclear power, has had a long, and overall good relationship with the US.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jm951 0 #5 February 15, 2008 Well one thing's for sure, the DNC convention is going to be one of the most interesting in a long time. It might be even more entertaining if some of the fringe lefties stage protests outside like back in the sixties. Stay tuned, bring popcorn! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #6 February 15, 2008 QuoteWell one thing's for sure, the DNC convention is going to be one of the most interesting in a long time. It might be even more entertaining if some of the fringe lefties stage protests outside like back in the sixties. Stay tuned, bring popcorn! They'd be more apt to support Clinton... My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ROK 0 #7 February 15, 2008 All I know is if ANYONE stands in the way of her achieving her power goal, they better be damn strong, and very damn afraid! She gives me the chills more than accurate heavy artillery... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
