Does this clip make you want to become a vegetarian?

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I have absolutely no problem thinking of lifelong human carnivoires suffering at 50-60 as their asshole rots out. Then comes the colostomy bag.....

We're counting on you to get us that free health care.

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I am left wondering why he even pondered about the man with a colostomy and his sex life, was lucky planning to ask him out for a drink?

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it costs more to travel to a location, kill, clean, haul back than it would to buy in a store, not that that's much less cruel

Cleanly killed, and properly cleaned and processed venison/elk tastes far better than even the best meats I can get in a grocery store.

I don't eat meat with every meal, or even every day, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with eating meat in moderation. And, as Amazon pointed out, hunters play an important role in maintaining healthy wildlife populations. I'm thankful for the ones that have, from time to time, stocked my freezer with a tastier, healthier source of protein.

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None. Just threw that out there.


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Pork chops, ribs, pork roast, bacon...

like it comes from a single animal.

RIGGGHHHTTT, some wonderful, MAGICAL animal produces all that good meat

Butcher them right and they do!


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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Most of the people I know who hunt and fish do it for the food .


I know, and Republicans want people to be personally resonsible when they deny healthcare, Iraq war-mongers want to fight it there rather than here, bla, bla, bla.... Explain how hunting for so-called food is that when it costs more? It's hunting for sport. I guess hunting could be compared to driving a 4 wheel drive; it's compensation for having a small dick.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.. and I would not nor have I ever.... wasted an animal I have killed.

I'm thinking you wasted them as you pulled the trigger, or whatever means u used to waste them.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I think that is morally repugnant for those who do.


I think it is, well, morally is too close to a biblical word, but it is ethically and humanely miserable to kill little animals in the wild for whatever prupose.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I respect the animal that is becoming a part of me.. sustaining me.


Respect the animal you just shoved a bullet thru? As for becoming a part of you, that is sickly what Dahmer said as to the victims he ate; he only ate the ones he like as he wanted them to be a part of him...... hmmmm, I guess hunters have a little Dahmer in them.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ever seen Bambi after he has starved to death because not enough hunters were successfull and not enough natural predators are left to maintain the balance in a hard winter???


So which is it, if the hunters kill the predators they leave the prey to run to great numbers, then they eat all the food and then starve. If teh hunters kill all the prey, the carnivorous animals die and the vegetation grows wild, then the prey eats the massive vegetation, then the predators run large numbers, then the prey dwindles, etc..... So if you were to understand the basics of a BOOM AND BUST CYCLE you would perhaps understand the absurdity of what you wrote. Humans fuck it all up, nature fixes it.

BTW, Bambi thanks you for driving a bullet thru her heart.....owes her life to you

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Did anyone notice the kid spitting on the burger in the first video clip?

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>Remember, he killed it, just to kill it.

Absolutely.....pure idiocy. If I ate it, it would still be as dead for no good reason.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>That is what lucky considered sporting and what he thinks everyone else is like.

When it costs several times as much to kill it as it costs to buy it, then the motivation has to be outside the food.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Emptied a clip?

What did he do strip them off by hand?

A Ruger 10-22 is a rifle that has a plastic clip. It's a semi-auto, so perhaps I just pulled the trigger.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Maybe the squirrel was taunting him for being a lousy shot.

10 feet away and you missed, and you say you were in the military?


I'd never been an ahole that kills animals and was quite surprised that he approached me. Retrospecting in years later, I concluded that he was chiding me for killing a mate/friend important to him/her. I'm seriously not expecting YOU to understand, just noting a time when I was young w/o a conscience..... sad thing is now I see some have failed to grow one.

As for a good shot, never been one. I mostly like what they call assualt weapons, still trying to find a non-assault weapon. I don;t shoot for accuracy, I shoot for fun and never at any living thing.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hehehe that is a good one


Yea, I have another good one I think you'll like, it's about this thing called the Halocaust......

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I have absolutely no problem thinking of lifelong human carnivoires suffering at 50-60 as their asshole rots out. Then comes the colostomy bag.....

We're counting on you to get us that free health care.

Well then quit voting Nazi...... don't count on me, I'm doing all I can; I'm counting on you to quit voting Nazi.

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I am left wondering why he even pondered about the man with a colostomy and his sex life, was lucky planning to ask him out for a drink?

Someone ends up with their asshole mounted to their stomache, you wonder how they do a lot of things, sex being the most awkward.

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BTW, Bambi thanks you for driving a bullet thru her heart.....owes her life to you

PSST hate to tell you this but Bambi grew up to be a HUGE BUCK...not a her

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Explain how hunting for so-called food is that when it costs more? It's hunting for sport. I guess hunting could be compared to driving a 4 wheel drive; it's compensation for having a small dick.

Uh if you knew how we hunted you would not be able to make such unsubstantiated claims..

Overall I can hunt locally and fish locally and based on what similar items cost in the specialty markets.. I make out like a bandit..

Oh and I have a HUGE 4x4 diesel truck... OMG... ( checking crotch.. ) I dont have a penis... oh the horror..

AS far as predators and prey it is violent and vicious.. When I shoot a deer or elk I shoot them in the head.. EVERYTIME.. so as not to spoil any meat..its quick and fast...not shooting them thru the heart... or as some of your precious wolves or bear or mountain lion who rip them to shreds while they are still alive ripping out their throat.....tearing at them...

Real life in nature is far different from some fantasy world in which most people who are against hunting seem to live in.

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it costs more to travel to a location, kill, clean, haul back than it would to buy in a store, not that that's much less cruel

Cleanly killed, and properly cleaned and processed venison/elk tastes far better than even the best meats I can get in a grocery store.

I don't eat meat with every meal, or even every day, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with eating meat in moderation. And, as Amazon pointed out, hunters play an important role in maintaining healthy wildlife populations. I'm thankful for the ones that have, from time to time, stocked my freezer with a tastier, healthier source of protein.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cleanly killed, and properly cleaned and processed venison/elk tastes far better than even the best meats I can get in a grocery store.

W/o a doubt, the taste is different/better. No one has yet to claim that but you, here comes the bandwagon.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I don't eat meat with every meal, or even every day, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with eating meat in moderation.

Healthwise, probably not, as for being humane, I think so.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>And, as Amazon pointed out, hunters play an important role in maintaining healthy wildlife populations.

Now that is totally wrong. Hunting creates such an imbalance in the equalibrium of species that it is absurd to claim otherwise.

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Did anyone notice the kid spitting on the burger in the first video clip?

If you knew what chickens eat, that would seem tasty by comparison.

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Since you're not a fan of corn, I can't imagine that you would eat animals that are corn fed

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Now that is totally wrong. Hunting creates such an imbalance in the equalibrium of species that it is absurd to claim otherwise.

TSK TSK TSK.. perhaps reading some information on state department of game website MIGHT educate you to some reality instead of looking at the touchy feely all fuzzy wuzzy websites...

Humans unbalanced nature LONG ago

Here in WA we have massive die offs periodically because there are too many deer in given areas.

They starve to death becaus ethey cant get thru the deep snow to get to food.. to many animals with not enough range for them to feed.. and not enough predators to keep their numbers in check.

Personally.. a quick bullet is far kinder to months of starvation thru a really bad winter...

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>PSST hate to tell you this but Bambi grew up to be a HUGE BUCK...not a her


Psst, I know nothing of kids movies, never have. Same applies, Bambi, as a metaphor for all animals, appreciaes the bullet thru the heart/head/wherever.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Uh if you knew how we hunted you would not be able to make such unsubstantiated claims..


Well explain it then. Do you coax these animals into dying for you? Perhaps use some car salesman tactics on them. Why so defensive? Oh yea, you actually feel guilty. Perhaps that's a good thing, I do believe you have a conscience and will think about the family you possibly split up next time you shoot another creature.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Overall I can hunt locally and fish locally and based on what similar items cost in the specialty markets.. I make out like a bandit..


Not that I believe that, but let's say it's true; THAT MAKES ONE OF YOU. (the other one didn't fare so well)

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Oh and I have a HUGE 4x4 diesel truck... OMG... ( checking crotch.. ) I dont have a penis... oh the horror..

Are you sure? Check again.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>AS far as predators and prey it is violent and vicious.. When I shoot a deer or elk I shoot them in the head.. EVERYTIME.. so as not to spoil any meat..its quick and fast...not shooting them thru the heart...

Yea, didn't Malvo and the other serial killer use the same MO? I think Bekowitz (Son of Sam) used the same logic too. You know, you have ome things in common with celebrities, can I have your autograph?


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... or as some of your precious wolves or bear or mountain lion who rip them to shreds while they are still alive ripping out their throat.....tearing at them...


Well, yea, the wolve's Mossberg is always in the shop and their credit cards are maxed, so they have to resort to that.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Real life in nature is far different from some fantasy world in which most people who are against hunting seem to live in.

I don't live in any fantasy world, I read, observe and draw conclusions. We have decided to seperate ourselves from nature until we want to go kill it from time to time. Truth is, humans fuck with nature, then nature is still able to fix itself in spite of that.

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Since you're not a fan of corn, I can't imagine that you would eat animals that are corn fed

I think she said she was not a fan of porn

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Well explain it then. Do you coax these animals into dying for you? Perhaps use some car salesman tactics on them. Why so defensive? Oh yea, you actually feel guilty. Perhaps that's a good thing, I do believe you have a conscience and will think about the family you possibly split up next time you shoot another creature.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. guilty.. nope not one bit.

Giving animals human characteristics... tsk tsk tsk...

ACTUALLY they have their own characteristics....and its their nature.

http://www.answers.com/topic/anthropomorphism?cat=health

Anthropomorphism can refer to the representation of the gods in human form or, more generally, to the attribution of human characteristics to animals or to inanimate objects. In both cases it can be seen as a statement of human superiority — everything else that there is must be just like us — or as an attempt to understand that to which we have no direct cognitive access, by imagining it to behave just like us.

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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>TSK TSK TSK.. perhaps reading some information on state department of game website MIGHT educate you to some reality instead of looking at the touchy feely all fuzzy wuzzy websites...


Now that is the fucking pot calling the kettle black. You are the liberal beacon on here, now you have the opportunity to call someone liberal? Trust me, all the conservatives here just crapped their pants and will save that post for future use.

Game and fish? A gov agency....MMhhh, I choose to listen to biologists and the sort, you know, those with PhD's and publishing journals.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Humans unbalanced nature LONG ago

Right, so let's fuck it all the way up. Yu know, we trashed the debt long ago, fuck it, let's keep doing it. Your logic is not consistent.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Here in WA we have massive die offs periodically because there are too many deer in given areas.

Nature fixes itself and will have minor boom and bust cycles. Humans are the X factor that fuck up nature; care to disagree with PhD's?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>They starve to death becaus ethey cant get thru the deep snow to get to food..

Lost humans are the same huh? So let's shoot them too Hey, here's a clue, help them. I'm sure you've seen those horrible shows where deer have fallen thru the ice and some bastard human goes and risks his life to save it. Tha mutherfucker, he should just tie a rope around and shoot the god damned thing, do it a favor then eat it. We need more humanitarians like you. The nerve, helping the animal out..... bastard .


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Personally.. a quick bullet is far kinder to months of starvation thru a really bad winter...


Well, maybe we shoukd use that philosophy for homeless people in fall Fucking brilliant.

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Game and fish? A gov agency....MMhhh, I choose to listen to biologists and the sort, you know, those with PhD's and publishing journals.

Lucky MOST of those departments have quite a few biologists on staff to make recomendations based on numbers... carrying capacity of the winter grazing areas etc....in allowing for seasons.. harvest numbers etc.

They do not make decisons based on la la land propoganda but on FACTS. to keep the availible herds thinned to a point to prevent disease and starvation in the herd. Same thing goes with the amounts of fish allowed escapement so there are viable numbers to breed the next generation. Soon after the mate.. and lay the eggs and fertilize them in the stream beds the adults.... ALL die off.

Get the facts lucky...it make ya look better in these arguements.

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Did anyone notice the kid spitting on the burger in the first video clip?

Yeah, but the scene looked pretty well staged.

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Well explain it then. Do you coax these animals into dying for you? Perhaps use some car salesman tactics on them. Why so defensive? Oh yea, you actually feel guilty. Perhaps that's a good thing, I do believe you have a conscience and will think about the family you possibly split up next time you shoot another creature.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. guilty.. nope not one bit.

Giving animals human characteristics... tsk tsk tsk...

ACTUALLY they have their own characteristics....and its their nature.

http://www.answers.com/topic/anthropomorphism?cat=health

Anthropomorphism can refer to the representation of the gods in human form or, more generally, to the attribution of human characteristics to animals or to inanimate objects. In both cases it can be seen as a statement of human superiority — everything else that there is must be just like us — or as an attempt to understand that to which we have no direct cognitive access, by imagining it to behave just like us.

Your pseudo-guilt is showing via your continual, "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. " and "tsk tsk tsk... " Sorry, quit doing ba things to helpless creatures and perhaps it will subside in time.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. guilty.. nope not one bit.

I was thinking you had a conscience, I gave you the benefit of the doubt.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Giving animals human characteristics... tsk tsk tsk...

That's an erroneous and VERY simplistic version of the way I look at animals in relation to human animals. I don't personify them or think they have human characteristics, I think they have their own unique characteristics and should have equal rights to survive.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ACTUALLY they have their own characteristics....and its their nature.


Of course they do, but they also have a social network, hence the term, "pecking order." That is actually found in every social network of humans as well. I don't morph an animal's characteristics to ours, I respect their differences and their right to live, something you don't think is needed.

What you do is this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speciesism
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Speciesism involves assigning different values or rights to beings on the basis of their species membership. The term was coined by British psychologist Richard D. Ryder in 1973 to denote a prejudice based on morally irrelevant physical differences.[1]

The concept of speciesism is used mostly by advocates of animal rights, who believe that it is irrational or morally wrong to regard sentient beings as objects or property. Philosophers Tom Regan and Peter Singer have both argued against the human tendency to exhibit speciesism. Regan argues that all animals have inherent rights and that we cannot assign them a lesser value because of a perceived lack of rationality, while assigning a higher value to infants and the mentally impaired solely on the grounds of being members of a certain species. Singer's philosophical arguments against speciesism are based on the principle of equal consideration of interests.
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So we have, equal consideration of interests. What a concept: equality, the very thing you harp about for races, classes, etc. I guess some things are selective. I would suggest you quit clammering about the classism and inequality from some of the Republicans on here then; you really risk looking like a hypocrite.