warpedskydiver 0 #1 February 13, 2008 A picture is worth a thousand words. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #2 February 13, 2008 Um, it's for some dude named Joshua...Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 February 13, 2008 Check a little further...geez are you a lawyer? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #4 February 13, 2008 QuoteCheck a little further...geez are you a lawyer? Law student, and on the 2nd btl of vinoIllinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shermanator 4 #5 February 13, 2008 i don't get it.CLICK HERE! new blog posted 9/21/08 CSA #720 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #6 February 13, 2008 Federal Firearms License Results https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck License Number: 1-54-XXX-XX-XX-00725 Expiration Date: 03/01/2008 License Name: SUGARMANN, JOSHUA ALAN Premise Address: 1730 RHODE ISLAND AVE NW #1014 WASHINGTON DC - 20036 Violence Policy Center http://www.vpc.org/contact.htm 1730 Rhode Island Avenue, NW Suite 1014 Washington, DC 20036 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #7 February 13, 2008 Does that help? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 February 13, 2008 http://www.vpc.org/studyndx.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #9 February 13, 2008 QuoteFederal Firearms License Results https://www.atfonline.gov/fflezcheck License Number: 1-54-XXX-XX-XX-00725 Expiration Date: 03/01/2008 License Name: SUGARMANN, JOSHUA ALAN Premise Address: 1730 RHODE ISLAND AVE NW #1014 WASHINGTON DC - 20036 Violence Policy Center http://www.vpc.org/contact.htm 1730 Rhode Island Avenue, NW Suite 1014 Washington, DC 20036 Somehow the name here seems bogus. Suppose the VPC is doing shit to discredit the system? Or does this person really exist?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #10 February 13, 2008 It is a FEDERAL offense to mispresent ones name or address in the attempt to obtain a FFL. Futhermore a thorough background check is performed by the BATFE in conjunction with said application. Prints and personal inteview as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #11 February 13, 2008 QuoteIt is a FEDERAL offense to mispresent ones name or address in the attempt to obtain a FFL. Futhermore a thorough background check is performed by the BATFE in conjunction with said application. Thanks something still does not pass the sniff test here. I did a google and 3 sites come up that all have the same document. I look forward to what may follow Thanks again"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #12 February 13, 2008 It says it expires in March, does it renew automatically, or does the individual have to re-apply? As out of date some of the deeper stuff on that site is... So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #13 February 13, 2008 Same guy maybe? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/nra-the-biggest-electi_b_33723.html"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #14 February 13, 2008 I have no explanation, but if you were to read teh rules of the FFL licensee prgram, it clearly states that this license it required only for the purposes of selling firearms. There seems to be a great many laws that were broken here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #15 February 13, 2008 I think I have found the guy Best Joseph Sugarman Quotes: The most famous quotes by Joseph Sugarman Each time you are honest and conduct yourself with honesty, a success force will drive you toward greater success. Each time you lie, even with a little white lie, there are strong forces pushing you toward failure. — Joseph Sugarman Best Josh Sugarmann Quotes: The most famous quotes by Josh Sugarmann Assault weapons’ menacing looks, coupled with the public’s confusion over fully-automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons –anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun– can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. — Josh Sugarmann Handguns are a public-health problem. — Josh Sugarmann"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #16 February 13, 2008 QuoteSame guy maybe? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/nra-the-biggest-electi_b_33723.html YES Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #17 February 13, 2008 Quote Quote Same guy maybe? http://www.huffingtonpost.com/josh-sugarmann/nra-the-biggest-electi_b_33723.html YES Smell test over"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #18 February 13, 2008 Hmmm did you and Max notice who has not chimed in yet? Let me give you two a hint... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #19 February 13, 2008 I wonder if the RICO act is familiar to these people? I really do hope it can be applied. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #20 February 13, 2008 Quote Hmmm did you and Max notice who has not chimed in yet? Let me give you two a hint... Dam quite aint he! "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #21 February 13, 2008 Lacking anything more, I think you guys are reaching, esp when you suggest fraud is being committed. This doesn't even appear to reach the level of Rosie and her armed guard. It wouldn't surprise me to hear of VPC doing gun buybacks or exchanges, and such actions would likely require them to act as an FFL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #22 February 13, 2008 I doubt that. Check the regulations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #23 February 13, 2008 Which regulations? No transfers in CA except through an FFL. In DC, no handgun possession period, save perhaps as an FFL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #24 February 13, 2008 FFL's sell guns, you do not need a license to buy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #25 February 13, 2008 Do they need a license to Xfer weapons to a destructive facility or Xfer firearms to another facility that might be responsible for detailing serials prior to destruction or other administrative use?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites