Royd 0 #26 February 13, 2008 Quotebuilding a US space station launching the Hubble space telescope discovery of the first planets outside our solar system I'm sure those pretty pictures of solar systems and galaxies that we will never reach, are quite filling. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #27 February 13, 2008 Quote Usually most nations go to war in righteous indignation when they are attacked..Wouldn't that be only half of the nations? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #28 February 13, 2008 QuoteI'm sure those pretty pictures of solar systems and galaxies that we will never reach, are quite filling. Overly simplistic observation: Libs prefer to use tax money and debt to employ people in education and science, foster learning, cultural awareness and increase humanity's knowledge base. Cons prefer to use tax money and massive debt to employ people in the military industrial complex, kill, extort and repress in an effort to perpetuate the very profitable cycle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #29 February 13, 2008 *rolls eyes* MMMMmmm....yummy kool-aid....Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #30 February 13, 2008 Quote*rolls eyes* MMMMmmm....yummy kool-aid.... Just an observation dude. Overly simplistic yes, but well supported by posts in this forum. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #31 February 13, 2008 QuoteOverly simplistic That was my point, yes...especially when you take the "best" attributes from the Dem side and "worst" from the Rep side...Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #32 February 13, 2008 Quote When the entitlements become a way of life for those that REFUSE to work, then yes, I say cut them for those people. I defy you to show me ONE instance where I have said that benefits should be cut for those who CANNOT work. Please tell us the dollar amount of benefits paid to those who REFUSE to work, in any year of your choice.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #33 February 13, 2008 QuoteQuoteOverly simplistic That was my point, yes...especially when you take the "best" attributes from the Dem side and "worst" from the Rep side... But generally the main theme seems to apply, at least as far as the debates go. The right gets their panties in a wad when poor people game the welfare system to their advantage but doesn't complain about corporate welfare or, in some cases, what amounts to outright fraud. Billions spent on educating or keeping our citizenry healthy is terrible but billions unaccounted for through the DoD, even when thrown out of the back of a truck seems an acceptable expense. Spending billions to build a wall to keep people out is ok but using the same money or changing our trade policies to economically develop the other side of the border, thereby removing the incentive for illegal immigration is considered outrageous. Sending subsidies to companies whose products are the basis for international conflict and who are wallowing in record profits is ok but taking that money back and spending it on development of technology that will wean us off that limited and dangerous product is somehow unacceptable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #34 February 13, 2008 QuoteWhen the Dems take charge, since they are all about everything free for ALMOST everybody, they can just write off that debt. Just think, they'll be buying votes for the next three generations. OR perhaps they really will try to balance a budget.. but with the interest payments on the debt that the Republicans have run up since 1980... it would require raising taxes.. and not giving every last cent.. and COST PLUS copntracts to everyone who is a friend of the administration. Talk about squandering the national treasure.. you guys are EXPERTS at it...I guess for you though its been a great run of pork barrel and deficit spending by your Rubber Stamp Congress till Americans got fed up with their abuses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #35 February 13, 2008 Funny you mention the no-bid contracts... *which* company was that that had the most? Oh, yeah...the one that has a political connection to the current Senator from NY state.... But enough of that...let's see what the Pig Book shows.... Hmmm.... going by the Pig Book ratings for the Senate, you have to go from the bottom (worst rating on pork) all the way to #40 before finding a Republican. Going from the top (best rating on pork), you have to go to #46 before finding a Democrat. For the House, you have to go to #161 before you find the first Republican. From the top, it looks a bit better for the Dems...the first ones show up at #41 and #50. Now, *which* party was that again that you were accusing of "pork barrel" politics?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #36 February 13, 2008 Face it politicians go to Washington to represent THEIR constituents.. so one politicians pork barrerl ( not your own) is Bad...... while YOUR flavor of politician from your district... well that is some sweet pork now aint it.. BUT..in the general scheme of things.. those are a drop in the bucket to what has been done to the treasury.... to support your favorite charity.. the administration and their frinds.. WAR ON TERROR So Mike want to find anything on the COST PLUS contracts that YOUR administration has been so LAVISH on their friends???? There really is a long list.. how come YOU do not show us THOSE numbers...HMMMMMM Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #37 February 13, 2008 Quote Now, *which* party was that again that you were accusing of "pork barrel" politics? See attachment and cross reference with which party was holding the purse strings during that period. It's from the site you reference. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #38 February 13, 2008 The blinders will not allow for that part of it to be seen..... How many vetoes were there from 2001 to 2006....???? If the right was so concerned they could have dialed back a bit.. but that never happened in the Rubber Stamp Congresses Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #39 February 14, 2008 QuoteQuote Now, *which* party was that again that you were accusing of "pork barrel" politics? See attachment and cross reference with which party was holding the purse strings during that period. It's from the site you reference. I've never said that Bush and his Congress have been angels when it comes to spending...just busting the little fantasies that the libs here have of "it's ALLLL the Reps fault".Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #40 February 14, 2008 McCain is now in favor of torture, it seems. Pandering to the right wing of the GOP? www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/14577.html... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
