Skyrad 0 #1 February 7, 2008 Quote Religious and secular groups have criticised the Archbishop of Canterbury after he said the adoption of elements of Islamic sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable". http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080207/tuk-sharia-law-comments-criticised-6323e80_1.html "With 30 rounds, At the target in front, In your own time...Carry on!"When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #2 February 7, 2008 Rowan Williams is a twat. But not nearly as bad as this guy... "Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice said: "This is a Christian country with Christian laws. If Muslims want to live under sharia law then they are free to emigrate to a country where sharia law is already in operation. Any accommodation with sharia law does nothing to help social cohesion. Christian law has been eroded by secularism and this country was founded on Christian values." We're looking at a new benchmark for hypocricy. With thinking like that he should start posting here Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #3 February 7, 2008 Last one out, don't forget to grab the Union Jack. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #4 February 7, 2008 I'm curious to gauge the general British sentiment on the rise of Islam in the UK. What's the pulse? On a side note...that firing command brings back memories. I had a relatively unpleasant, but thoroughly competent Sergeant Major of the Royal Dragoon Guard as in instructor at Armor Officer Basic. We needed a translator - good shit.- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nigel99 616 #5 February 7, 2008 QuoteBut Dr Williams said an approach to law which simply said "there's one law for everybody and that's all there is to be said, and anything else that commands your loyalty or allegiance is completely irrelevant in the processes of the courts - I think that's a bit of a danger" I saw the bbc article and the part that caught my eye is bolded above. I really feel that within a country there SHOULD be a common law for everyone. We have seen recent examples of disparate laws here for different groups (e.g. MP's exempt from police monitoring). Fundamentally it is wrong. I am pretty ignorant of Sharia law - but as an immigrant to the UK I do know that I had a choice to come here and as such I accept and abide by UK law. I don't think that freedom of speach and freedom of expression extends to freedom to have your own version of the law. If he is talking about stupid laws that govern aspects such as marriage and divorce etc that are based on victorian attitudes and cultures sure get rid of them and if muslims want sharia law to cover cultural aspects let them have it - but let me have my 3 wives!Experienced jumper - someone who has made mistakes more often than I have and lived. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #6 February 7, 2008 Quote I'm curious to gauge the general British sentiment on the rise of Islam in the UK. What's the pulse? If you mean rise of Islam as in more Islamic people living in the UK I'd say that a lot of people (except Daily Mail readers) don't really care. If you mean rise of Islam as in radical Wahhabist Imams preaching Jihad and the imposing of Sharia on society I'd say theres very little tolerance from any quarter of society, except perhaps from Social Services who still keep them well supported in welfare cheques and free housingDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #7 February 7, 2008 Quote Rowan Williams is a twat. But not nearly as bad as this guy... "Stephen Green, national director of Christian Voice said: "This is a Christian country with Christian laws. If Muslims want to live under sharia law then they are free to emigrate to a country where sharia law is already in operation. Any accommodation with sharia law does nothing to help social cohesion. Christian law has been eroded by secularism and this country was founded on Christian values." We're looking at a new benchmark for hypocricy. With thinking like that he should start posting here Are you sure it wasn't Rowan Atkinson?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Para_Frog 1 #8 February 7, 2008 Yes, the latter.- Harvey, BASE 1232 TAN-I, IAD-I, S&TA BLiNC Magazine Team Member Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #9 February 7, 2008 QuoteQuote Religious and secular groups have criticised the Archbishop of Canterbury after he said the adoption of elements of Islamic sharia law in the UK "seems unavoidable". http://uk.news.yahoo.com/pressass/20080207/tuk-sharia-law-comments-criticised-6323e80_1.html "With 30 rounds, At the target in front, In your own time...Carry on!" How do you feel about it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #10 February 7, 2008 Quote If he is talking about stupid laws that govern aspects such as marriage and divorce etc that are based on victorian attitudes and cultures sure get rid of them and if muslims want sharia law to cover cultural aspects let them have it - but let me have my 3 wives! Uh huh right.... Most men I have ever seen cant even properly take care of one wife let alone multiple wives Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #11 February 7, 2008 QuoteAre you sure it wasn't Rowan Atkinson? The resemblance is uncanny!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #12 February 7, 2008 QuoteRowan Williams is a twat. Agreed. Rowan Williams is indeed, a twat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #13 February 7, 2008 Quote Quote If he is talking about stupid laws that govern aspects such as marriage and divorce etc that are based on victorian attitudes and cultures sure get rid of them and if muslims want sharia law to cover cultural aspects let them have it - but let me have my 3 wives! Uh huh right.... Most men I have ever seen cant even properly take care of one wife let alone multiple wives i do a pretty good job taking care of my one wife, but i'll be damned if i would or could take care of more than one. it would end up just being triple the nagging and one third the sex. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #14 February 7, 2008 QuoteAgreed. Rowan Williams is indeed, a twat. Did you mean Robin Williams? Yes, he is a twat. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #15 February 7, 2008 As someone who was born here (into a Muslim family) raised here and is British I feel quite strongly that the law of England is quite enough (Scotland having their own laws). if I want to live under Sharia law I'd move to a country that practices it. I wouldn't like Jewish people to have seprate laws in the UK and I feel the same way about Muslims.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #16 February 7, 2008 There you go again, making sense and cofusing the idiots. Stop that, or the liberal swine will think you are not on their side. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #17 February 7, 2008 >. . . .after he said the adoption of elements of Islamic sharia law in the >UK "seems unavoidable". So you have neocons too, eh? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BannanaGirl 0 #18 February 8, 2008 Would Sharia law mean people of a muslim origin suddenly being held accountable under a law sytem maybe they have no desire to be under? What would happen to them and how would the UK justice system protect those individuals in such circumstances? Where would the law start and where would it finish....at your ethnic origins? Would it be "tough, you have muslim parents hence you are a muslim and hence under Sharia law?". In this case introducing Sharia law would be like throwing the bird at all these individuals who want to live as british citizens. It seems a very dangerous and cloud cukkoo land idea to me. Maybe I am an intolerant twat though? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #19 February 8, 2008 Quote Would Sharia law mean people of a muslim origin suddenly being held accountable under a law sytem maybe they have no desire to be under? Not in the way that Archbishop Williams (twat) proposes it. He would like to see it implemented in a voluntary way. However when talking about having Sharia courts specifically for issues like divorce, child custody etc. you have to wonder how 'voluntary' it would really be for women who's husbands want to use it... Quote Would it be "tough, you have muslim parents hence you are a muslim and hence under Sharia law?". As stated, not in Rowan Williams' (twat) theory. But in practice? Surely it would turn out that way to some degree. Quote In this case introducing Sharia law would be like throwing the bird at all these individuals who want to live as british citizens. It seems a very dangerous and cloud cukkoo land idea to me. Maybe I am an intolerant twat though? Nope. I'd say pretty much every reasonable minded person agrees with you on this one. Luckily that includes our politicians as well. Mr Canterbury (twat) has really dumped himself in the shit with this oneDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #20 February 8, 2008 He's obviously try to settle things down a bit from the Bishop of Rochester's earlier comments. But appeasement isn't a sensible solution. Targets will fall when hit. In your own time; carry on! 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #21 February 8, 2008 Watch and shoot! Watch and shoot! Don't have much of an opinion about Williams either way, and haven't seen these comments sufficiently in context to make a judgement, but it certainly sounds like he's well and truly put his foot in it this time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #22 February 8, 2008 Quote Don't have much of an opinion about Williams either way,.. I think he needs a better hat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tbrown 26 #23 February 9, 2008 This guy Atkinson is unfortunately not only the leader of the Church of England, but the entire worldwide Anglican Communion. Which includes the Episcopal Church here in the US. As if it's not already an embarassment enough to admit to being Episcopalian, this asshole has to go and say we should accept a third world code of law that treats women like cattle ? Our whole denomination is doomed. Your humble servant.....Professor Gravity ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #24 February 9, 2008 I also don't have that much of an opinion myself, although I do sympathise with the fact we're all imagining him on the range. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DZJ 0 #25 February 10, 2008 Quote This guy Atkinson is unfortunately not only the leader of the Church of England, but the entire worldwide Anglican Communion. Which includes the Episcopal Church here in the US. I sympathise, but isn't it a bit much to blame it on Mr Bean and Blackadder? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
