McCain Seals GOP Nod as Romney Suspends Campaign

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John McCain effectively sealed the Republican presidential nomination on Thursday as chief rival Mitt Romney suspended his faltering presidential campaign. "I must now stand aside, for our party and our country," Romney prepared to tell conservatives.

So McCain vs Clinton or Obama it shall be.

Discuss if you like (and I'm still looking for some real answers as to how McCain qualifies as "liberal" or "dem lite").

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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It will be a close election, but my money is on McCain to be the next prez. I have mixed emotions about the man. But he is better than the current moron who holds the office and he is likely better than most of the other monkeys who want/wanted the job. But time will tell.

PS: Mitt Romney appears to be a smart business person with a proven track record of leadership. Too bad for all the good business words that comes out of his mouth, an equal amount of the neo-con "fear is good" military industrial complex message also comes out. But it's clear he is a lot more intelligent than GWB ever was.

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PS: Mitt Romney appears to be a smart business person with a proven track record of leadership. Too bad for all the good business words that comes out of his mouth, an equal amount of the neo-con "fear is good" military industrial complex message also comes out. But it's clear he is a lot more intelligent than GWB ever was.

I agree. I'm really bummed to hear about Him bowing out of the race - he defiantly had my vote. He had the experience, the looks, and the balls to saw "I don't know"."

A president runs an administration, we need to remember that. A lot that comes from an administration is from those the President surrounds his/herself with. Bush Surrounded himself with the best of the best, then choose to ignore their advice.

Romney would have set up a good administration. My vote is for McCain, but I'd take Obama over the She-devil any day of the wee.

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This is crucial at this juncture because McCain does not have to spend the moeny anymore to get the nomination. He can now devote his warchest toward being the POTUS, and not just the nominee.

For the next couple of months, at least, we can expect to see Clinton and Obama duking it out - blowing money fighting each other and McCain merely promoting himself.

This may, however, backfire if the Democratic convention produces fireworks.

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If any of his supporters are actually conservative and disinterested in theocracy, they'll throw themselves behind Ron Paul.

Unfortunately, the Ron Paul revolution is a thing of the past (unless he takes a 180 and runs libertarian, which he has ruled out repeatedly).

But seriously, do you think McCain is interested in a theocracy? If so, what has he done/said that gives you that impression? I never got that impression from him, even though he made some speeches at Liberty U and/or similar Christian colleges.

Edited to add: I'm amazed at what a comeback his campaign has made. I remember just a few months back the press was reporting that his campaign was effectively dead in the water.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

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If any of his supporters are actually conservative and disinterested in theocracy, they'll throw themselves behind Ron Paul.

Unfortunately, the Ron Paul revolution is a thing of the past (unless he takes a 180 and runs libertarian, which he has ruled out repeatedly).

But seriously, do you think McCain is interested in a theocracy? If so, what has he done/said that gives you that impression? I never got that impression from him, even though he made some speeches at Liberty U and/or similar Christian colleges.

Edited to add: I'm amazed at what a comeback his campaign has made. I remember just a few months back the press was reporting that his campaign was effectively dead in the water.

I wasn't referring to McCain. I was talking about the Romney supporters who insist McCain is a liberal giving their support to Huckabee instead. And yes, I too am amazed by the turnaround his campaign made.

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The pundits are saying McCain should take Romney as his VP since he has a good conservative base and lots of money. I don't think those two like each other very much. Huckabee seems more the logical choice since he would help McCain carry the South.

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I wasn't referring to McCain. I was talking about the Romney supporters who insist McCain is a liberal giving their support to Huckabee instead. And yes, I too am amazed by the turnaround his campaign made.

Duh, my bad.

Who do you think might be his running mate?

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But it's clear he is a lot more intelligent than GWB ever was.

So is 99.9% of the working class American public.
Romney definitely looks more presidential than the other candidates. Based on that, I think Michael Douglas should be POTUS.

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My take from another thread:

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McCain will pick Joe Lieberman as a running mate. Mac's more concerned with swooning moderate democrats than maintaining his base - he's taken that for granted.

He's a focus-group driven, old-school politician. He'll calculate this entire exercise to maintain power and make the least impact on the status quo.

And Obama, as dynamic and charismatic a personality as he is...has two things working against him:

#1 - He NEVER answers a question. He just sounds very good at answering.
#2 - He's black - We're doing better, but the US still has too many rednecks on both sides of the aisle to elect him.

Mac will win. Nothing will change...and it sucks ass. We need Ron Paul.

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I think Michael Douglas should be POTUS.

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Based on that, I think Michael Douglas should be POTUS.

Well, at least the first lady would be easy on the eyes.

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But it's clear he is a lot more intelligent than GWB ever was.

So is 99.9% of the working class American public.

Nope. His SAT score demonstrates quite clearly that he is more intelligent than the majority of the public. Better than 2 in 3. What he chose to do with that ability is a different matter.

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This weeks results shows the difference between the Democrat and GOP nomination process. The latter has always been prone to all or nothing races, which magnifies very small differences in support. The vote counts of Clinton versus Obama isn't very differnt from McCain vs Romney, but one race is over, and the other is nearly even.

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Nope. His SAT score demonstrates quite clearly that he is more intelligent than the majority of the public. Better than 2 in 3. What he chose to do with that ability is a different matter.

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You assume that Daddy didn't buy those scores or that he didn't cheat?

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I think you're right about McCain.

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#2 - He's black - We're doing better, but the US still has too many rednecks on both sides of the aisle to elect him.

To put things in perspective Franklin Raines was the first Black CEO to head a fortune 500 company. He was elected to that position back in 1998. I doubt we will see a Black or a women POTUS anytime soon.

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I doubt we will see a Black or a women POTUS anytime soon.

within the next 4 elections, maybe this one - and if it's done right, it'll be because they are the best qualified (or the best political strategist or whatever), not just because of some cosmetic feature.

I think the attitude of defeat in your comment is just as big a factor in perpetuating the problem as statements about the "rednecks" so eloquently referenced to (also a biased statement of equivalent effect and intent) so frequently here.

You guys can't just talk about it. You have to live it, or I will always doubt your sincerity on the subject.

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I doubt we will see a Black or a women POTUS anytime soon.

There is a near 50-50 chance we will see one or the other elected this very year.

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Nope. His SAT score demonstrates quite clearly that he is more intelligent than the majority of the public. Better than 2 in 3. What he chose to do with that ability is a different matter.

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You assume that Daddy didn't buy those scores or that he didn't cheat?

And lets not forget how many brain cells he killed off during his drinking and drugging days as a frat boy then young party animal "pilot".. and then the good old party days when daddy pulled strings to get him off of drunk driving charges etc.

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To put things in perspective Franklin Raines was the first Black CEO to head a fortune 500 company. He was elected to that position back in 1998. I doubt we will see a Black or a women POTUS anytime soon.

The Fortune 500 world has far fewer minorities than the voting population of the country. And it may well be that many of the best and brightest of the black population went into politics over business.

Of course, there have been many notable women CEOs of late.

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The pundits are saying McCain should take Romney as his VP since he has a good conservative base and lots of money. I don't think those two like each other very much. Huckabee seems more the logical choice since he would help McCain carry the South.

Neither will do that. Clinton/Gore effectively changed the role of the VP. The VP does no merely wake up and see if the POTUS is alive anymore. The VP is more of an assistant - like the Presidential Whip. the veep takes a strong role on policy making and implementation.

Check out Cheney and the war in Iraq. Cheney is the lead dog in that.

the veep adn the POTUS have to be in agreement. There's no way they can duke it out with each other.

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Nope. His SAT score demonstrates quite clearly that he is more intelligent than the majority of the public. Better than 2 in 3. What he chose to do with that ability is a different matter.

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You assume that Daddy didn't buy those scores or that he didn't cheat?

Well, I don't make up theories out of thin air. Have you any evidence to support this? We know Dan Qualyes's degree from the 'Harvard of the Midwest' was essentially bought, but there's nothing other than your dislike to support Bush cheating on his SAT.

It's clearly evident from viewing him that he is not below average in intelligence. If I presumed everyone here I disgreed with had a low IQ, Speaker's would be full of morons. Intelligent people can come to different conclusions and beliefs.

The failure in his Administration may well lie with his inability to handle disent from his Cabinet members. And the form of leadership he proclaimed- sticking true regardless of results or new information. As for his use of voodoo economics, it worked great for Reagan, less so for his dad.

Looking at Clinton, we know he was decently intelligent, but he still did dick with foreign affairs. And Carter is clearly the most intelligent, but he couldn't manage at the scale of the US Government.

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Check out Cheney and the war in Iraq. Cheney is the lead dog in that.

Yup he really put the VICE back into Vice President

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Neither will do that. Clinton/Gore effectively changed the role of the VP. The VP does no merely wake up and see if the POTUS is alive anymore. The VP is more of an assistant - like the Presidential Whip. the veep takes a strong role on policy making and implementation.

Check out Cheney and the war in Iraq. Cheney is the lead dog in that.

You're 20 years early for making such a claim. Check out Hillary Clinton as the First Lady? Did Laura Bush follow in her lead? Nope. And we can be pretty sure that she won't run for President in 8 years.

Many view Chaney's role as an indication of the weakness of Bush. It may instead be as simple as Chaney being on the same page as he, and with more relationships with the older establishment of the party. If McCain wins, I expect a weak, silent, *traditional* VP, esp if he picks one of the other contenders to collect votes. Someone who occasionally casts the 51st vote in the Senate.

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#2 - He's black - We're doing better, but the US still has too many rednecks on both sides of the aisle to elect him.

It's not the redneck vote that Obama cannot get. It's the Latino vote - a huge portion. The biggest ethnic tensions in my world are blacks and latinos.

I come from the lower class. I grew up in section 8. I could be the whitest guy at an albino convention but I never had many problems with latinos or blacks because they HATED each other.

California may have a different dynamic. The Latino vote went solidly democrat after Prop 209. So they have been at the democratic core for some time now. But with my experience, I can't say that they voted for Hillary as much as against Obama.

Clinton would likely carry the Latino vote against McCain. But, McCain has positioned himself positively in the immigration arena, which would likely be good enough to overcome the dem tendencies of the Latino populace.

There are exceptions (the right-wing latinos in Florida, for example. Those of Cuban ancestry whom I would dare Lucky to try to convince about the marvels of socialism). But here in Cali, Latinos and blacks are not the best of friends.

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