Genn 0 #1 February 2, 2008 Letter from one 'Angry Woman' I don't know who wrote it but they should have signed it. Some powerful words. This woman should run for president. Written by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady. 'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? Were people from all over the world, mostly Americans, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from our nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ? Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they? And I'm supposed to care that a copy of the Koran was 'desecrated' when an overworked American soldier kicked it or got it wet?...Well, I don't. I don't care at all. I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11. I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere possession of which is a crime in Saudi Arabia I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for chopping off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat. I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Iraq come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques. I'll care when the mindless zealots who blow themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide . I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights. In the meantime, when I hear a story about a brave marine roughing up an Iraqi terrorist to obtain information, know this: I don't care. When I see a fuzzy photo of a pile of naked Iraqi prisoners! who have been humiliated in what amounts to a college-hazing incident, rest assured: I don't care. When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank: I don't care. When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and fed 'special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts: I don't care. And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' We! ll, Jimm y Crack Corn and-you guessed it-I don't care !! If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends. Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behavior! If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country! And may I add: 'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Marines don't have that problem' -- Ronald Reagan I have another quote that I would like to add AND.......I hope you forward all this. 'If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.' Also by.. Ronald Reagan One last thought for the day: In case we find ourselves starting to believe all the Anti-American sentiment and negativity, we should remember England 's Prime Minister Tony Blair's words during a recent interview. When asked by one of his Parliament members why he believes so much in America , he said: 'A simple way to take measure of a country is to look at how many want in.. And how many want out.' Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom. AS MANY SEEM TO FORGET BOTH OF THEM. AMEN! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #2 February 2, 2008 I stopped reading half way through. The usual bigotted ranting of a ill informed American housewife. As for: Quote Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001? Thats a very good question.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #3 February 2, 2008 QuoteWritten by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady. It was actually written by some guy named Doug Patton. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/foster.asp"...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #4 February 2, 2008 Quote Thats a very good question. Let me guess... it was all a plot by the jews to make the muslim world look bad. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #5 February 2, 2008 It's all over the internet, attributed to various people. It wasn't written by a NJ housewife, it was apparently written by one Doug Patton, a right wing political speechwriter. It's mostly an ignorant diatribe, suggesting that we should calibrate OUR behavior according to the behavior of the most evil people we know about. Perhaps the last section is the worst garbage of all, since a large number of British, Polish, Russian, Australian, New Zealand, Canadian, Norwegian, Dutch... (the list is quite long) have died in our behalf during the last 100 years, along with civilian police, firemen etc., And a whole lot of patriotic Americans do not believe Jesus died for them.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #6 February 2, 2008 QuoteWritten by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady. Seems the same thing happened to Pam Foster when she forwarded it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #7 February 2, 2008 Sounds like somewhere some elections are pending ... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #8 February 2, 2008 Quote'If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.' Well great! Lets combat the Islamic theocracies by setting up a Christian theocracy of our very own. Yeah, that would definitely work...Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #9 February 2, 2008 Quote Sounds like somewhere some elections are pending ... Ahhhh...the rantings of a gun hating Lib.I wonder if the "progressives" feel International law should superceed the second amendment, as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #10 February 2, 2008 QuoteQuoteWritten by a housewife from New Jersey and sounds like it! This is one ticked off lady. It was actually written by some guy named Doug Patton. http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/foster.aspI was thinking Karl Rove and Co.[;)I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #11 February 2, 2008 Quote In Reply To 'If we ever forget that we're One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under.' ***Well great! Lets combat the Islamic theocracies by setting up a Christian theocracy of our very own. Yeah, that would definitely work... Once again, an ill informed, pseudo intellectual, miss-interpreting the intent of our fore fathers. Our fore fathers were for separation of church and state but were obviously morally grounded. And to say, this quote represented starting a Christian theocracy is absurd. Our fore fathers intended for a government that was free of church rule (check your history books) but still inspired by Judeo Christian values. "Justice that is not tempered with compassion is tyranny" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #12 February 2, 2008 Quote Quote Sounds like somewhere some elections are pending ... Ahhhh...the rantings of a gun hating Lib.I wonder if the "progressives" feel International law should superceed the second amendment, as well. Wohoo - the threshold seems to be a bit low, if my short little phrase already is considered as a "ranting "(of a gun hating Lib.) Just to clarify things a bit: Did you mean "supersede"? Why should International Law supersede your 2nd Amendment? And where's the deeper connection with actual thread?? Ahhhhhh ... now I get it: JohnRich, where are you?? dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #13 February 2, 2008 QuoteAnd to say, this quote represented starting a Christian theocracy is absurd. Our fore fathers intended for a government that was free of church rule (check your history books) but still inspired by Judeo Christian values. Those same for fathers would be completely disgusted with this administration and the things they have done.. How many in THIS administration WOULD support a theocracy??? How many of THIS ADMINISTRATION are graduates of one law school in particular.. Liberty's Regent School of Law.. very much a theological institution. I would say they are FAR too over represented in this administration compared to the hundreds of other law schools in our country. http://www.rightwingwatch.org/2007/05/liberty_univers.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #14 February 2, 2008 QuoteJust to clarify things a bit: Did you mean "supersede"?*** Opps...Excuse the error. Obviously, you're more concerned with diction instead of content. Why should International Law supersede your 2nd Amendment?*** At the UN last year, entities outside the US tried unsuccessfully to abolish private gun ownership in the United States. "An armed American is a citizen. An un-armed American is a subject." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #15 February 2, 2008 Quote Those same for fathers would be completely disgusted with this administration and the things they have done.. Have you talked with our fore fathers lately? If so, ask them how Elvis is doing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #16 February 2, 2008 Quote Have you talked with our fore fathers lately? If so, ask them how Elvis is doing. Perhaps if you ever had read some of their writings.... you would not make such a flippant answer. You can learn much from what they wrote about... something far too many americans are incapable of doing...and perhaps they would not be so quick to give the Chump in Charge such high marks for job performance as so many on the right are doing dailyBelieve it or not.. yes.. they... our forefathers HAVE and continue to speak to US..... down thru the centuries.. in what they wrote. Read.. and learn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #17 February 2, 2008 Quote ...Obviously, you're more concerned with diction instead of content. Quote Wrong, oxymoron. As an alien, I need to know correct diction, otherwise understanding contents could be a bit harder. Still not sure what your 2nd Amentment has to do with actual posts? Regarding the UN: That was in 2006 and not generally against private weaponry ownership in the US. Petition referred to ALL member countries of the UN. Big difference. So, let's go ahead with the Angry Woman and The Election ... dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #18 February 2, 2008 Quote Believe it or not.. yes.. they... our forefathers HAVE and continue to speak to US..... down thru the centuries.. in what they wrote. Read.. and learn. Have you read any John Locke lately? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,118 #19 February 2, 2008 >I wonder if the "progressives" feel International law should superceed >the second amendment, as well. Well, the chickenhawks (like the one who wrote that letter) feel that their fear should supercede the fourth, fifth, sixth and eighth amendments - so why not the second as well? When one spits on the constitution that US GI's have sworn to defend, not only does one attack that which they are fighting for - one risks getting some of that spittle on one of the few parts the chickenhawks DO support. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #20 February 2, 2008 While he had great influence on some of our founding fathers and their writings reflect that.. he was an Englishman... and I do not believe he was a supporter of any form of theocracy....NEXT.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #21 February 2, 2008 I thought it was shite. This one is much better. Dear Cretins, I have been an NTL customer since 9th July 2001, when I signed up for your 3-in-one deal for cable TV, cable modem, and telephone. During this three-month period I have encountered inadequacy of service which I had not previously considered possible, as well as ignorance and stupidity of monolithic proportions. Please allow me to provide specific details, so that you can either pursue your professional prerogative, and seek to rectify these difficulties - or more likely (I suspect) so that you can have some entertaining reading material as you while away the working day smoking B&H and drinking vendor-coffee on the bog in your office. My initial installation was cancelled without warning or notice, resulting in my spending an entire Saturday sitting on my fat arse waiting for your technician to arrive. When he did not arrive at all, I spent a further 57 minutes listening to your infuriating hold music, and the even more annoying Scottish robot woman telling me to look at your helpful website.... how? I alleviated the boredom to some small degree by playing with my testi*les for a few minutes - an activity at which you are no-doubt both familiar and highly adept. The rescheduled installation then took place some two weeks later, although the technician did forget to bring a number of vital tools - such as a drill-bit, and his cerebrum. Two weeks later, my cable modem had still not arrived. After several further telephone calls (actually 15 telephone calls over 4 weeks) my modem arrived ... a total of six weeks after I had requested it, and begun to pay for it. I estimate that the downtime of your internet servers is roughly 35%... these are usually the hours between about 6pm and midnight, Monday to Friday, and most of the useful periods over the weekend. I am still waiting for my telephone connection. I have made 9 telephone calls on my mobile to your no-help line this week, and have been unhelpfully transferred to a variety of disinterested individuals, who are it seems also highly skilled bollock jugglers. I have been informed that a telephone line is available (and someone will call me back), that no telephone line is available (and someone will call me back), that I will be transferred to someone who knows whether or not a telephone line is available (and then been cut off), that I will be transferred to someone who knows whether or not a telephone line is available (and then been redirected to an answer machine informing me that your office is closed), that I will be transferred to someone who knows whether or not a telephone line is available (and then been redirected to the irritating Scottish robot woman.... and several other variations on this theme. Doubtless you are no-longer reading this letter, as you have at least a thousand other dissatisfied customers to ignore, and also another one of those crucially important testicle-moments to attend to. Frankly I don't care, it's far more satisfying as a customer to voice my frustrations in print than to shout them at your unending hold music. Forgive me, therefore, if I continue. I thought BT were sh*t, that they had attained the holy piss-pot of god-awful customer relations, that no-one, anywhere, ever, could be more disinterested, less helpful or more obstructive to delivering service to their customers. That's why I chose NTL, and because, well, there isn't anyone else is there? How surprised I therefore was, when I discovered to my considerable dissatisfaction and disappointment what a useless shower of bastards you truly are. You are sputum-filled pieces of distended rectum - incompetents of the highest order. British Telecom - wankers though they are - shine like brilliant beacons of success, in the filthy puss-filled mire of your seemingly limitless inadequacy. Suffice to say that I have now given up on my futile and foolhardy quest to receive any kind of service from you. I suggest that you do likewise, and cease any potential future attempts to extort payment from me for the services which you have so pointedly and catastrophically failed to deliver - any such activity will be greeted initially with hilarity and disbelief - although these feelings will quickly be replaced by derision, and even perhaps a small measure of bemused rage. I enclose two small deposits, selected with great care from my cats litter tray, as an expression of my utter and complete contempt for both you, and your pointless company. I sincerely hope that they have not become desiccated during transit - they were satisfyingly moist at the time of posting, and I would feel considerable disappointment if you did not experience both their rich aroma and delicate texture. Consider them the very embodiment of my feelings towards NTL, and it's worthless employees. Have a nice day - may it be the last in you miserable short life, you irritatingly incompetent and infuriatingly unhelpful bunch of tw*ts, Yours psychotically John Doe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #22 February 2, 2008 Quote Quote Believe it or not.. yes.. they... our forefathers HAVE and continue to speak to US..... down thru the centuries.. in what they wrote. Read.. and learn. Have you read any John Locke lately? Damn! I didn't know he was a yank. Did you guys make him one posthumously? Is that kinda like the Mormons baptizing folks after they're gone? Did they do that to Locke after he got his citizenship? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #23 February 2, 2008 This is one ticked off lady. "I don't care". . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Genn 0 #24 February 2, 2008 Quote...Obviously, you're more concerned with diction instead of content. ------------------------------------------------------------ In Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wrong, oxymoron. As an alien, I need to know correct diction, otherwise understanding contents could be a bit harder. God bless you. You have an incredible grasp of our language. Glad Aliens choose to learn the language of their host-country. QuoteRegarding the UN: That was in 2006 and not generally against private weaponry ownership in the US. Petition referred to ALL member countries of the UN. Big difference. The reply was in reference to the original post and other innuendos concerning.... "I'll care when the American media stops pretending that their First Amendment liberties are somehow derived from international law instead of the United States Constitution's Bill of Rights. " The Bill of Rights which includes the Amendments. Which includes the Second Amendment. Got it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #25 February 2, 2008 QuoteOnce again, an ill informed, pseudo intellectual, miss-interpreting the intent of our fore fathers. Our fore fathers were for separation of church and state but were obviously morally grounded. And to say, this quote represented starting a Christian theocracy is absurd. Our fore fathers intended for a government that was free of church rule (check your history books) but still inspired by Judeo Christian values. "Justice that is not tempered with compassion is tyranny" That's a nice quote at the end there. WTF does it have to do with what we were talking about? Secondly, what does being morally grounded have to do with the church or faith? Thirdly lets look at a fuller Reagan quote "Without God, there is no virtue, because there's no prompting of the conscience. Without God, we're mired in the material, that flat world that tells us only what the senses perceive. Without God, there is a coarsening of the society. And without God, democracy will not and cannot long endure. If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under." A little stronger in intent than just the last sentance indcates. KelliJ would probably call that racism. Fourthly, you really, really don't like anyone to express an opposing viewpoint, do you?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites