jakee 1,595 #51 February 3, 2008 QuoteInteresting. Like I said, I only looked at it briefly. Who made "most interpretations"? Sorry, I meant the ones that I've seen.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #52 February 3, 2008 QuoteQuoteInteresting. Like I said, I only looked at it briefly. Who made "most interpretations"? Sorry, I meant the ones that I've seen. I wonder if this a "new" kind of war which will force a change or better definitions regarding who is an enemy/civilian/whatever. I can understand the US pushing the legal definitions, but at the same time don't like to see the implications/charges being thrown around. Also don't like the whole idea of "torture", which waterboarding my or may not be. As you know, the GC do not mention WB'ing or any other specifics. Thanks for the info. "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,116 #53 February 3, 2008 >Since the law behind the "detainees" or whatever they're called is >questionable, who or what court will make a binding interpretation? That's the $64,000 question. We've detained people from US citizens living in the US to military prisoners captured during active attacks against US troops, so it's hard to come up with a one-size-fits-all policy. I'd think the minimum would be the standards outlined in the Geneva convention we signed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #54 February 3, 2008 QuoteAlso don't like the whole idea of "torture", which waterboarding may or may not be. Well if we go by the dictionary definiton of torture then it is. Also, the GC forbids mental or physical torture or any other form of coersion. Even if someone decides that WBing falls outside the sphere of torture then if it's intended to gain information it's coersion. If it isn't intended to gain information then it's needless sadism.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,148 #55 February 3, 2008 QuoteHow is your statement germain to this thread? You are a British subject, complaining about something that does not involve you. Torture involves all humanity. You are indeed warped if you think only Americans are protected.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #56 February 3, 2008 "Hi, my name is Bambara. I'm a 36-year-old Virgo and a former killer, whose hobbies include: performing recreational autopsies, defecating, and drinking rum. I've recently been given a conscience, and would very much like to help you."Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #57 February 3, 2008 You infer far too much. But then again taking things out of context is your bag. If waterboarding is torture, you would cringe at what I think is truly torture. In five minutes you would be begging for death.So, feel free to put your fuzzy bunny slippers on and embrace the enemies of my country as your friends. That should make them behave. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #58 February 3, 2008 QuoteIf waterboarding is torture, you would cringe at what I think is truly torture. So if Y is worse than X, X must be OK?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KelliJ 0 #59 February 3, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Get over yourself Said the pot to the kettle. Could you point to any occasion that I've attempted to control who can or can't comment on a thread? I think you'll have some difficulty finding anything. My comment had nothing to do with anyone controlling a thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #60 February 3, 2008 Quote My comment had nothing to do with anyone controlling a thread. Mine did. Are you confused?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KelliJ 0 #61 February 3, 2008 Actually....if I was forced to choose between waterboarding for an hour or being embraced by the professor wearing fuzzy bunny slippers....I'd say I was a bit thirsty and could use a drink of water. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KelliJ 0 #62 February 3, 2008 Quote Quote My comment had nothing to do with anyone controlling a thread. Mine did. Are you confused? Not a bit, but it's obvious you are. (Isn't it past your beddy-bye time?) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #63 February 3, 2008 Quote Not a bit, but it's obvious you are. You are incorrect. Including about the bed thing. Are international timezones too difficult for you to calculate, or was it a thinly veiled insinuation about my age? I'd have hoped for better from you.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KelliJ 0 #64 February 3, 2008 Well, you are at least back to 50/50. Your youth is just too tempting not to bring up. Remember....not all comments made by posters are directly related to the subject addressed. This is SC, after all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #65 February 3, 2008 QuoteRemember....not all comments made by posters are directly related to the subject addressed. This is SC, after all. So you deliberately took 1 sentence out of context to take a dig at another poster? Yep, sounds like SC! As you were. (I'm curious, what age you think I am?)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #66 February 3, 2008 1 lb. boneless chicken, cubed; AND/OR 1 lb. shrimp, boiled in Zatarain's and peeled; OR 1 lb. leftover holiday turkey, cubed; OR 1 lb. of any kind of poultry or fish, cubed; OR Any combination of the above 1 lb. (hot) smoked sausage, andouille or chaurice, sliced on the bias; OR 1 lb. diced smoked ham 1 large onion, chopped 1 bell pepper, chopped 3 - 6 cloves garlic, minced (amount to taste; I like lots) 4 ribs celery, chopped 3 small cans tomato paste 4 large Creole tomatoes, peeled, seeded and diced; OR 1 28-oz. can tomatoes 8 cups good dark homemade chicken stock Creole seasoning blend to taste (or 2 - 3 tablespoons); OR 2 teaspoons cayenne, 2 teaspoons black pepper, 1 teaspoon white pepper, 1 teaspoon oregano, 1/2 teapsoon thyme 2 bay leaves Salt to taste 4 cups long-grain white rice, uncooked (Some people like converted rice, others prefer good old Mahatma. I use Uncle Ben's converted, as the rice doesn't get sticky or lumpy that way.) In a sauté or frying pan, brown the chicken, sprinkling with Tony Chachere's seasoning if you've got it; a bit of salt, black pepper and red pepper otherwise. Don't brown if using leftover cooked bird, but you still might want to season the meat. Tear or cut the meat into bite-size pieces. Brown the sliced smoked sausage or andouille and pour off fat. In the pot, sauté the onions, garlic, peppers and celery in oil until onions begin to turn transparent. In the same pot, while you're sautéing the "trinity", add the tomato paste and let it pincé, meaning to let it brown a little. What we're going for here is an additional depth of flavor by browning the tomato paste a little; the sugar in the tomato paste begins to caramelize, deepening the flavor and color. Keep it moving so that it browns but doesn't burn. Some friends of mine hate this step, so you can skip it if you want, but then it won't be Chuck's jambalaya. :^) Once the vegetables are translucent and the tomato paste achives sort of a red mahogany color, deglaze the pan with the about 2 cups of the stock, scraping the bottom of the pan to mix up any browned bits, and stir until smooth, making sure the sautéed vegetables, paste and stock are combined thoroughly. It should be fairly thick. Add the Creole seasoning, tomatoes and salt to taste. Cook over low-medium heat for about 10 minutes. Add the meat and/or seafood and cook another 10 minutes; if you're using seafood, be careful not to overcook it. Add the rest of the stock, check seasonings, and stir in the rice, combining thoroughly. Cook for about 20-25 minutes, or until the rice has absorbed all the liquid and is cooked through. If you haven't checked your seasonings before adding the rice, it's too late! It's much better for the rice to absorb the seasonings while it's cooking. Check seasoning anyway, then turn the heat down to low-medium and let the sauce thicken up a bit, with the pot uncovered, stirring frequently, for about 10 minutes. Stir thoroughly to combine all ingredients. When the jambalaya has thickened up a bit and has reached the "right" consistency (you'll know), it's done. Serve with salad and French bread.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KelliJ 0 #67 February 3, 2008 IS that so unusual? You and you mentor, as well as 99% of posters here, do just that on a regular basis. Just this once I'll give you a straight-up response. But don't expect me to make a habit of it. I'm guessing you are between 22 & 26. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,595 #68 February 3, 2008 Mentor? Dunno who you're talking about there (well, I think I do but have no idea why). And I actually try and make my digs relevant to the content and context of a post. They're more effective that way Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #69 February 4, 2008 QuoteActually....if I was forced to choose between waterboarding for an hour or being embraced by the professor wearing fuzzy bunny slippers....I'd say I was a bit thirsty and could use a drink of water. I concur. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #70 February 4, 2008 Quote Quote Actually....if I was forced to choose between waterboarding for an hour or being embraced by the professor wearing fuzzy bunny slippers....I'd say I was a bit thirsty and could use a drink of water. I concur. Quoth 007 to Le Chiffre: Quote I've got a little itch, down there. Would you mind? Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
