airtwardo 7 #26 January 31, 2008 Actually, your point about civilian ammo is untrue. There's still plenty of stuff out there that is "LEO only". Quote To my recollection only the Teflon bullets are outlawed. ~~~"There is no Federal law that prohibits a private citizen from purchasing or possessing any of the Black Talon bullet variants. Additionally, there is no Federal law, which forbids private possession and use of "law enforcement" handgun ammunition, except specifically defined armor-piercing handgun ammunition. Black Talon, Ranger SXT and Ranger Talon do not meet the criteria for armor-piercing handgun ammunition as defined by Federal law. However, there may be State or local laws that ban private possession of Black Talon and its variants."~~~ http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs12.htm ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #27 January 31, 2008 QuoteDude, put the knife down. fuck you po-po. bang. You are missing the track of the conversation -- nobody here is questioning the use of tasers as an alternative to deadly force, such as when a suspect is threatening others with a knife. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #28 January 31, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote I watched on one of the morning news shows this morn. about a lady that is throwing Taser parties like they were tupperware. Now every Joe Blow can start tasering everybody that offends them somehow. Tasering-- Not just for Policemen anymore. Hell they even come in pink. Gotta be fashion aware and color coordinated. Yes, but "civilian" tasers shoot a shorter distance than police tasers. I suppose that this is so that in a cop/civilian taser 'showdown at the o.k. corral" the police have the upper hand. I think it's like making civilian bullets less effective than cop bullets, which we don't do, other than the bullshit 'cop killer' steel core bullet (that you can still get for rifles). Soon tasers will be used to rob banks and gas stations. You can incapacitate everyone easily with enough tasers, and the dude will open the vault if you just apply enough voltage. Then, if you are caught, you didn't even use a deadly weapon in the crime. Actually, your point about civilian ammo is untrue. There's still plenty of stuff out there that is "LEO only". Like what? I have steel core, tracer, and HE Incendiary rounds in the ammo can, among others. My understanding is that LEO only ammo is marketing hype, not law. Then you are quite possibly committing a felony. ~~~(a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons: (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns. ~~~ ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites skydyvr 0 #29 January 31, 2008 QuoteAnything shy of that, say, a TASER, is called restraint. Sweet. A restraint that kills people. What WILL they think of next? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Zipp0 1 #30 January 31, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I watched on one of the morning news shows this morn. about a lady that is throwing Taser parties like they were tupperware. Now every Joe Blow can start tasering everybody that offends them somehow. Tasering-- Not just for Policemen anymore. Hell they even come in pink. Gotta be fashion aware and color coordinated. Yes, but "civilian" tasers shoot a shorter distance than police tasers. I suppose that this is so that in a cop/civilian taser 'showdown at the o.k. corral" the police have the upper hand. I think it's like making civilian bullets less effective than cop bullets, which we don't do, other than the bullshit 'cop killer' steel core bullet (that you can still get for rifles). Soon tasers will be used to rob banks and gas stations. You can incapacitate everyone easily with enough tasers, and the dude will open the vault if you just apply enough voltage. Then, if you are caught, you didn't even use a deadly weapon in the crime. Actually, your point about civilian ammo is untrue. There's still plenty of stuff out there that is "LEO only". Like what? I have steel core, tracer, and HE Incendiary rounds in the ammo can, among others. My understanding is that LEO only ammo is marketing hype, not law. Then you are quite possibly committing a felony. Maybe in California. Added: and a quick search shows that is indeed from the California code. Can I shoot an intruder with an HE round? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites juanesky 0 #31 February 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteA man runs from the Police and the tools provided to the Police to apprehend people who want to resist arrest are used. How is that crazy, should the officer instead have thrown his baton at the ack of the guys head? Quoted for Truth/Emphasis/A seldom-seen-on-the-SC-bit-of-common-sense. In my opinion, there is NO EXCUSE for tasering someone because he is running from a police officer unless he is threatening to harm another person. It's just scary to me that there are people who think that is okay. THen you run into the Peter Parker theory, where the offender running could kill your uncle Ben. If the person is running away, not in self defense, but to avoid going to Jail, prosecuted, then they are up to no good. It was proven in NYC in the early 90's, enforce existing law on petty offenses, and the big ones will subside."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 Next Page 2 of 2 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. 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skydyvr 0 #27 January 31, 2008 QuoteDude, put the knife down. fuck you po-po. bang. You are missing the track of the conversation -- nobody here is questioning the use of tasers as an alternative to deadly force, such as when a suspect is threatening others with a knife. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #28 January 31, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote I watched on one of the morning news shows this morn. about a lady that is throwing Taser parties like they were tupperware. Now every Joe Blow can start tasering everybody that offends them somehow. Tasering-- Not just for Policemen anymore. Hell they even come in pink. Gotta be fashion aware and color coordinated. Yes, but "civilian" tasers shoot a shorter distance than police tasers. I suppose that this is so that in a cop/civilian taser 'showdown at the o.k. corral" the police have the upper hand. I think it's like making civilian bullets less effective than cop bullets, which we don't do, other than the bullshit 'cop killer' steel core bullet (that you can still get for rifles). Soon tasers will be used to rob banks and gas stations. You can incapacitate everyone easily with enough tasers, and the dude will open the vault if you just apply enough voltage. Then, if you are caught, you didn't even use a deadly weapon in the crime. Actually, your point about civilian ammo is untrue. There's still plenty of stuff out there that is "LEO only". Like what? I have steel core, tracer, and HE Incendiary rounds in the ammo can, among others. My understanding is that LEO only ammo is marketing hype, not law. Then you are quite possibly committing a felony. ~~~(a) The term "destructive device," as used in this chapter, shall include any of the following weapons: (1) Any projectile containing any explosive or incendiary material or any other chemical substance, including, but not limited to, that which is commonly known as tracer or incendiary ammunition, except tracer ammunition manufactured for use in shotguns. ~~~ ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #29 January 31, 2008 QuoteAnything shy of that, say, a TASER, is called restraint. Sweet. A restraint that kills people. What WILL they think of next? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #30 January 31, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I watched on one of the morning news shows this morn. about a lady that is throwing Taser parties like they were tupperware. Now every Joe Blow can start tasering everybody that offends them somehow. Tasering-- Not just for Policemen anymore. Hell they even come in pink. Gotta be fashion aware and color coordinated. Yes, but "civilian" tasers shoot a shorter distance than police tasers. I suppose that this is so that in a cop/civilian taser 'showdown at the o.k. corral" the police have the upper hand. I think it's like making civilian bullets less effective than cop bullets, which we don't do, other than the bullshit 'cop killer' steel core bullet (that you can still get for rifles). Soon tasers will be used to rob banks and gas stations. You can incapacitate everyone easily with enough tasers, and the dude will open the vault if you just apply enough voltage. Then, if you are caught, you didn't even use a deadly weapon in the crime. Actually, your point about civilian ammo is untrue. There's still plenty of stuff out there that is "LEO only". Like what? I have steel core, tracer, and HE Incendiary rounds in the ammo can, among others. My understanding is that LEO only ammo is marketing hype, not law. Then you are quite possibly committing a felony. Maybe in California. Added: and a quick search shows that is indeed from the California code. Can I shoot an intruder with an HE round? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #31 February 4, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteA man runs from the Police and the tools provided to the Police to apprehend people who want to resist arrest are used. How is that crazy, should the officer instead have thrown his baton at the ack of the guys head? Quoted for Truth/Emphasis/A seldom-seen-on-the-SC-bit-of-common-sense. In my opinion, there is NO EXCUSE for tasering someone because he is running from a police officer unless he is threatening to harm another person. It's just scary to me that there are people who think that is okay. THen you run into the Peter Parker theory, where the offender running could kill your uncle Ben. If the person is running away, not in self defense, but to avoid going to Jail, prosecuted, then they are up to no good. It was proven in NYC in the early 90's, enforce existing law on petty offenses, and the big ones will subside."According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
