Can any of you fucktards....

[SpeedRacer 1]

..explain to me why prohibition of alcohol is a bad idea, but prohibition of marijuana & hashish is a good idea????


Anyone????....... Anyone???............ Bueller????.........

Speed Racer
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[Amazon 7]

Think about WHO was the target of making marijuana illegal... WHO were the users when it became illegal???

[freefalle 0]

who you calling fucktard you cum guzzling gutter slut?

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..explain to me why prohibition of alcohol is a bad idea, but prohibition of marijuana & hashish is a good idea????

There is no rational answer to that question.

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..explain to me why prohibition of alcohol is a bad idea, but prohibition of marijuana & hashish is a good idea????


Anyone????....... Anyone???............ Bueller????.........

Do you mean to ask wy prohibition was a bad idea, or are they weighing it again? Think about it, prohibition was a product of the moralists, just as the war on drugs is also the same. In good moralist hypocritical fashion, they were running drugs themelves and then jacking up the penalty for those who were also doing it.

Drugs, booze, etc are for losers IMO, don't touch em, but to criminalize them makes an industry. If they legalized them and sold em cheap the black market would drop out. Just as smokers should b confined to their houses to smoke, if they keep jacking the price up, they will create another market that the drug makers can exploit. The moralists are apparently too stupid to understand this oh so easy phenomenon of how a market works.

[livendive 8]

"Because they hate freedom"

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

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Nope.

As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD...

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Nope.

So what, it's like a boyfriend/girlfriend thing? They love freedom so much that they can't let anyone else enjoy it?

Blues,
Dave

"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!"
(drink Mountain Dew)

[popsjumper 2]

If we legalized marijuana, there'd soon be no room to grow corn.

My reality and yours are quite different.
I think we're all Bozos on this bus.
Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239

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..explain to me why prohibition of alcohol is a bad idea, but prohibition of marijuana & hashish is a good idea????


Anyone????....... Anyone???............ Bueller????.........

Because the people that have the most influence in making laws (don't tell me you thought it was us commoners) prefer martinis to marijuana. It's really that simple.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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Because the people that have the most influence in making laws (don't tell me you thought it was us commoners) prefer martinis to marijuana. It's really that simple.

Not sure if I agree with that entirely.

In the US it became illegal because a) it was mostly dirty Mexicans using it and b) religious groups didn't like it. It's illegal status was strengthened by stunningly disingenuous propoganda campaigns linking marijuana use with violent, sex-crazed insanity, sterility, self-abuse - pretty much any depraved behaviour under the sun. All the claims made at that time have been shown to be so much crap, but Marijuana remains illegal simply because... it's illegal. It's the status quo. If it's been illegal for as long as nearly everyone can remember then there must be a reason for it! Who's going to waste their political capitol on campaigning against something so entrenched - never mind that they'd be violating the sacred "war" on drugs.

Do you want to have an ideagasm?

[normiss 906]

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

racial stupidity in this country was very disheartening.
stupid whitey....

"but whitey's on the moon.."

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explain to me why prohibition of alcohol is a bad idea, but prohibition of marijuana & hashish is a good idea????

It is not, but examining history may shed light...

They were both illegal around the same time. The difference was alcohol was widely in use already by most of the citizens, MJ was not. I believe that alcohol prohibition was likely related to introduction of gasoline as a fuel (to eliminate competition from the common man making his own fuel- grain alcohol).

I also believe that the prohibition of MJ was similar in that the oil/timber-paper industries did not need the superior competition that hemp created. You did know that the Constitution and DoI were written on hemp paper? That is why they still exist today, intact. If they were written on today's paper, they would not have survived 200+ years.

Throw in that fact that if MJ were legal, I doubt there would be too many folks taking sleeping pills, bi-polar meds, anti-depressants, etc.
There would be much less need for jails, and no longer a need for a 'War on Drugs'. (= less money for the govt to spend and mismanage)
I doubt there would be as much violent crime as there is now a lot of violent crime is alcohol related.

And a big special thanks go out to William Hearst, who back in 1937 used his position as owner of many newspapers to propagate the idea that MJ was a 'devil drug', yadda yadda. Oh yeah, he also didn't want to loose his money in the paper pulp industry he was HEAVILY invested in, probably to keep his newspaper costs down (read: profits up).

But that sounds an awful lot like a conspiracy, which would mean if you believe it, you must put on your foil beanie and have folks make fun of you for being 'paranoid'.

coll story about MJ's history http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2003/12/22/whyIsMarijuanaIllegal.html

[billvon 3,132]

Only objective reason I can think of is that alcohol is good for you in small amounts, but marijuana is not. (Same is true of tobacco, of course.)

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..explain to me why prohibition of alcohol is a bad idea, but prohibition of marijuana & hashish is a good idea????


Anyone????....... Anyone???............ Bueller????.........

Because it's against the LAW!
What part of ILLEGAL don't you understand.
I mean, really, we're talking about the LAW!
Other than that I got nothin'.

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Only objective reason I can think of is that alcohol is good for you in small amounts, but marijuana is not. (Same is true of tobacco, of course.)

I'd be curious to see any studies that show whether small amounts of THC are good for you, harmful, or neither. I assume that smoking pretty much anything would not be good for you, but THC can be used in other ways, though it's illegal no matter how you use it. And to my knowledge, it hasn't been studied very extensively. (And by "small amount," it would likely be an amount that you would not get overly-intoxicated from, similar to the "small amount" which is usually quoted about alcohol being good for you.)

[billvon 3,132]

>I'd be curious to see any studies that show whether small amounts of
>THC are good for you, harmful, or neither.

I have never seen any studies that claim THC is "bad" for you in terms of long-term survival. However, I have seen several studies that compare the risk of smoking pot to the risks associated with smoking tobacco (lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease, COPD.)

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So I guess then that "alcohol is good for you in small amounts, but marijuana is not" is not really a legitimate reason for marijuana to be illegal, since we don't actually know that?

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Someone here smoking Hashish?

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Because the people that have the most influence in making laws (don't tell me you thought it was us commoners) prefer martinis to marijuana. It's really that simple.

Not sure if I agree with that entirely.

In the US it became illegal because a) it was mostly dirty Mexicans using it and b) religious groups didn't like it. It's illegal status was strengthened by stunningly disingenuous propoganda campaigns linking marijuana use with violent, sex-crazed insanity, sterility, self-abuse - pretty much any depraved behaviour under the sun. All the claims made at that time have been shown to be so much crap, but Marijuana remains illegal simply because... it's illegal. It's the status quo. If it's been illegal for as long as nearly everyone can remember then there must be a reason for it! Who's going to waste their political capitol on campaigning against something so entrenched - never mind that they'd be violating the sacred "war" on drugs.

I would put most of what you say as the reasons behind the preference I mentioned.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

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>I'd be curious to see any studies that show whether small amounts of
>THC are good for you, harmful, or neither.

I have never seen any studies that claim THC is "bad" for you in terms of long-term survival. However, I have seen several studies that compare the risk of smoking pot to the risks associated with smoking tobacco (lung cancer, emphysema, heart disease, COPD.)

MJ is much worse than tobacco; but I don't think that is why it is illegal. At least I never heard of it used as a reason by anyone official or otherwise. We just usually hear the devil drug lines about it's social evils.

" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley

[billvon 3,132]

> So I guess then that "alcohol is good for you in small amounts, but
> marijuana is not" is not really a legitimate reason for marijuana to be
> illegal, since we don't actually know that?

In small amounts, alcohol has been shown to have no damaging effects for most people, and indeed several studies have shown health _benefits_ from such small amounts.

In small amounts, smoking marijuana has been shown to be at least as damaging (in most cases, more damaging) than smoking tobacco.

If you could get THC without smoking marijuana, then you would be correct - we don't know enough to claim that's a valid reason.

[billvon 3,132]

>MJ is much worse than tobacco; but I don't think that is why it is illegal.

I agree. It's just the only objective reason I can think of that it would be "worse" than alcohol in terms of legality.

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If you could get THC without smoking marijuana, then you would be correct - we don't know enough to claim that's a valid reason.

And that's exactly what I was saying. People do use THC without smoking marijuana.

[billvon 3,132]

>People do use THC without smoking marijuana.

Hmm. Do you think that if THC was legalized, but smoking pot was not, it would answer most people's objections to the laws against pot smoking? (or more accurately make people less fucktardish)