mnealtx 0 #51 January 25, 2008 That's good news for Oregon - congrats! However, the Democratic party doesn't seem to support it. A quick Google that *SHOULD* open a few eyes (but unfortunately, it probably won't) - "gun control racism" Unfortunately, too many people fall under the spell of what the politicians refer to as "reasonable gun control". Just like the abasement of any other right, incrementalism lets them slowly turn up the heat until we have frog soup.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #52 January 25, 2008 Quote1. The apologists on here will stop whining about "it was only a blowjob". 2. An end to the incessant outbreaks of Bush Derangement Syndrome. 3. It gives the Dem Congress another "first 100 hours" to actually fulfill any of the promises they made. >>>>>>>>>>1. The apologists on here will stop whining about "it was only a blowjob". Countered by the Repugs, "it was only a public disclosure of a federal agent, followed by a commutation of prison sentence, full pardon to come." >>>>>>>>>>>2. An end to the incessant outbreaks of Bush Derangement Syndrome. Are we wrong? >>>>>>>>>>>3. It gives the Dem Congress another "first 100 hours" to actually fulfill any of the promises they made. And this time w/o Mr. I lost my veto pen until now, meaning when the WH and congress is stacked with D's, we can start to unfuck the deeds of your party. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #53 January 25, 2008 QuoteQuoteAnd three even better things: 1. Right wingers will have a new person to hate, and to blame for every problem the US faces. (The Clinton hatred is getting really old.) 2. GOP politicians will be able to claim that all the problems in Iraq were caused by the new democratic president. 3. They'll be able to claim that the recession really has nothing to do with GOP policies; it's all the new president. Ah, ok... so basically, all the stuff the Dems do now, then? Right, except that ours are founded. If you were allergic to addessing data that are number-based, we could arrive at that conclusion..... oh, shocker, perhaps that's why you don't address them! DING, DING, DING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #54 January 25, 2008 QuoteQuote3. They'll be able to claim that the recession really has nothing to do with GOP policies; it's all the new president. Holy crap, this is exactly what Bob Beckel, Democratic Strategist said this morning on the news. When eveyone was anticipating a huge drop in the dow today, he said that no one will give GWB credit for the 7 years of a relatively good economy, but they sure as hell will hang him should any sign of a recession happen in his last year. I'm sorry to hear that you just came out of your coma. Then and now... - Gas $1 gallon.............Gas $3 gallon - Houses $120 median...........Houses $250 median - Debt $5.5T..................Debt $9.2T Most other things way high too. Welcome to 2008, Rumpelstiltskin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #55 January 25, 2008 >>>>>>>>>>>>And Jeanne: deficit spending is not a uniquely Republican feature. The new Republicans have merely proven that they can actualy do it better than the Dems of the past. If you're a historian, you're correct, if you are discussing contemporary spending trends, say the last 25+ yeas, you are flat wrong. So from a historical perspective, right, from a logical application of reality, couldn't be more wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #56 January 25, 2008 Quote Under Clinton I dont remember massive foreign borrowing.. it was a boom without the massive deficits.....This boom has been good for a sector that provided nothing to the country...think Blackwater.... Halliburton with all the NO BID Contracts.. and all the others that have raided the US Treasury at will for the last 6 years... Think of all the defense spending that does not provide anything more than profits for the war profiteers( AKA Friends of the Administration).. oh and some jobs... I will give it that good aspect to the economy.. Instead of spending all those BILLIONS here at home on bridges that do not fall down.. or roads that are a joke.. this administration SQUANDERED Billions on this excellent adventure in Iraq... but remember.. the Iraqi OIL was gogin to pay for everything.. Seems all that PIE in the SKY you guys voted for has not worked out all that well What the Repugs refuse to see is that under Clinton we had a great economy based on a great future, there was a projection of paying down/off the debt. We had positive results while killing the 12 years of 250B/yr deficit. Under the 3 Repugs, there is nothing positive about the future in that we have created unprecedented debt that will never be paid off. It has caused the US dollar to fall to great depths. Anyone can come in and spend money from the next century and pretend things are fine, but to come in and balance things and also have prospoerity is difficult and Clinton did it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #57 January 25, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteAnd three even better things: 1. Right wingers will have a new person to hate, and to blame for every problem the US faces. (The Clinton hatred is getting really old.) 2. GOP politicians will be able to claim that all the problems in Iraq were caused by the new democratic president. 3. They'll be able to claim that the recession really has nothing to do with GOP policies; it's all the new president. Ah, ok... so basically, all the stuff the Dems do now, then? Right, except that ours are founded. If you were allergic to addessing data that are number-based, we could arrive at that conclusion..... oh, shocker, perhaps that's why you don't address them! DING, DING, DING Oh, please... *rolls eyes*Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #58 January 25, 2008 QuoteDUDE.. back to Parataxic Distortion... Ok. That has to be at least a $27.50 word, maybe even $35.00. Back to the violence channel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #59 January 25, 2008 I just checked out the violence channel- saw an add for soon to be banned guns and free range organic terrorists on sale over at Costco. -switched back to CNBC or as Jon Stewart calls it "Hot ladies talking to bald guys."Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #60 January 25, 2008 Quote>>>>>>>>>>>>And Jeanne: deficit spending is not a uniquely Republican feature. The new Republicans have merely proven that they can actualy do it better than the Dems of the past. If you're a historian, you're correct, if you are discussing contemporary spending trends, say the last 25+ yeas, you are flat wrong. So from a historical perspective, right, from a logical application of reality, couldn't be more wrong. The US has borrowed money to pay for things every year in the last 30 years. Republicans have merely borrowed more - especially over the last 6 years. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #61 January 25, 2008 Quote While, yes, there are some nationally prominent and a few local Democratic politicians who are outspoken in their desire to restrict gun ownership and carrying rights; the national party, the state party, and the rank and file Democrats in most districts have no impulse to curb 2nd Amendment rights. Well, not since the 2000 election defeat, at least. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #62 January 25, 2008 Republican axiom: Fight the terrorism over there so we don't have to fight them here. Democratic axiom: Fight terrorism here so we don't have to fight them over there.Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #63 January 25, 2008 QuoteRepublican axiom: Fight the terrorism over there so we don't have to fight them here. Democratic axiom: Fight terrorism here so we don't have to fight them over there. Liberal axiom: Now why do the terrorists want to attack us? Maybe if we figure that out and address the issue in an open and honest manner we can solve the problem and we won't have to build a wall around our country and subject its citizenry to ever increasing government intrusion and debt. Neo Con axiom: Keep the populace ignorant and afraid and it will be easier to funnel the unborn taxpayer money into our war profiteering enterprises. Screw 'em. My kids will be just fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #64 January 25, 2008 QuoteLiberal axiom: Now why do the terrorists want to attack us? Maybe if we figure that out and address the issue in an open and honest manner we can solve the problem and we won't have to build a wall around our country and subject its citizenry to ever increasing government intrusion and debt. while we're blowing smoke. Liberal axiom: if we're nice to everyone else, they will return the favor. Peace will reign. Just like they did with Jesus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #65 January 25, 2008 Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Misternatural 0 #66 January 25, 2008 what if I can't find either of those on the ballot.Beware of the collateralizing and monetization of your desires. D S #3.1415 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #67 January 25, 2008 QuoteRepugs . . . Do you and Amazon attend the same grade school? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #68 January 25, 2008 >Do you and Amazon attend the same grade school? And don't forget Vinnie and Marc! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #69 January 25, 2008 Quote >Do you and Amazon attend the same grade school? And don't forget Vinnie and Marc! Why can't everyone act like a true adult around here like me. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
idrankwhat 0 #70 January 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteLiberal axiom: Now why do the terrorists want to attack us? Maybe if we figure that out and address the issue in an open and honest manner we can solve the problem and we won't have to build a wall around our country and subject its citizenry to ever increasing government intrusion and debt. while we're blowing smoke. Liberal axiom: if we're nice to everyone else, they will return the favor. Peace will reign. Just like they did with Jesus. Seems more likely than "if we attack, kill, suppress and manipulate people while plundering their natural resources, they'll learn to love us and actually embrace the relationship. You know, just like the Romans. I think it was Teddy Caesar Roosevelt who said "speak loudly and beat people with a big stick. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #71 January 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteAnd three even better things: 1. Right wingers will have a new person to hate, and to blame for every problem the US faces. (The Clinton hatred is getting really old.) 2. GOP politicians will be able to claim that all the problems in Iraq were caused by the new democratic president. 3. They'll be able to claim that the recession really has nothing to do with GOP policies; it's all the new president. Ah, ok... so basically, all the stuff the Dems do now, then? Right, except that ours are founded. If you were allergic to addessing data that are number-based, we could arrive at that conclusion..... oh, shocker, perhaps that's why you don't address them! DING, DING, DING Oh, please... *rolls eyes* Affirmed then, address the data or keep acquiescing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #72 January 26, 2008 QuoteQuote>>>>>>>>>>>>And Jeanne: deficit spending is not a uniquely Republican feature. The new Republicans have merely proven that they can actualy do it better than the Dems of the past. If you're a historian, you're correct, if you are discussing contemporary spending trends, say the last 25+ yeas, you are flat wrong. So from a historical perspective, right, from a logical application of reality, couldn't be more wrong. The US has borrowed money to pay for things every year in the last 30 years. Republicans have merely borrowed more - especially over the last 6 years. OK, we'll take since Reagan and do a partisan accumulation. - Repub - Reagan, Bush, Bush = $6.8 trillion increase - Dem - Clinton = $1.5 trillion increase Those numbers, stand alone, impeach your assertion. Now, if we establish that Reagan inherited a recession, but a very slight deficit, passed 250B deficit to GHW Bush, the same passed the same 250B deficit to Clinton, then Clinton passed a $23M deficit to GW Bush, which is .01% of what he inherited, then GW Bush turned it into >$1/2 trillion deficit averaging the 7 years. So our community lawyer wants us to believe, '6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other.' What I extrapolate from that is, especially when we consider the Repub congress for most of GW Bush's term, that the Dems in Congress slowed the spending of Reagan and GWH Bush. When we have a Repub WH and congress we see the result, 1/2T+ per year over 7 years = purely pathetic. Borrowing a little does not = borrowing a ton, especially when you consider the little borrower inherited a huge habit of borrowing and virtually broke it even. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #73 January 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteLiberal axiom: Now why do the terrorists want to attack us? Maybe if we figure that out and address the issue in an open and honest manner we can solve the problem and we won't have to build a wall around our country and subject its citizenry to ever increasing government intrusion and debt. while we're blowing smoke. Liberal axiom: if we're nice to everyone else, they will return the favor. Peace will reign. Just like they did with Jesus. Fuck teh Jesus interjection, but other than that, I wonder why no one attacks Sweeden? HMMMmmmmmmmmmmm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #74 January 26, 2008 QuoteQuoteRepugs . . . Do you and Amazon attend the same grade school? Do you and Neal attend the same school of avoidance of data-based evidence? Perhaps Jesus has a reason for the Repugs fucking the US economy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #75 January 26, 2008 Quote Why can't everyone act like a true adult around here like me. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA OMGBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHABWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA oh...my...breathe..... BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
