auburnguy 0 #1 January 17, 2008 Greatest.... video.... ever, This guy is completely nuts. These videos have been getting ripped down fast by the "church" so watch it before it moves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQXLuWz6OqU Favorite quote's "We are the authority on getting people off drugs, We are the authority on the mind" "When a scientologist drives by a car accident we look at it differently, because we know we are the only ones who can help" and more.. http://gawker.com/345563/tom-cruise-uncut-the-freedom-medal-award-ceremony?autoplay=true"If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #2 January 17, 2008 I dunno man - I give the man props for standing up for what he believes in and his faith...I have respect for people who actually live their faith and try to make the world a better place because of it. Quote "We are the authority on getting people off drugs, We are the authority on the mind" This seems a bit bold, but then again how many Christian Churches out there claim that they are the only true church? As I read more about Scientology, I see a lot of weirdness. Xenu, the great Alien Emperor 75 Million Years ago..... I think that it distorts reality in some degree.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #4 January 17, 2008 Quote Greatest.... video.... ever, This guy is completely nuts. These videos have been getting ripped down fast by the "church" so watch it before it moves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQXLuWz6OqU Favorite quote's "We are the authority on getting people off drugs, We are the authority on the mind" "When a scientologist drives by a car accident we look at it differently, because we know we are the only ones who can help" and more.. http://gawker.com/345563/tom-cruise-uncut-the-freedom-medal-award-ceremony?autoplay=true So he says he doesn't hesitate to put HIS ethics on someone else because he ruthlessly puts them upon HIMSELF but what about Scientology preaching "religious tolerance" ... from their website No society can survive long where religious freedom is suppressed and religious intolerance is permitted to thrive. Throughout their history, churches of Scientology have worked to identify and isolate the causes of religious intolerance, and to develop effective ways to bring about a society where individuals may freely worship according to their conscience. These are firmly held beliefs as expressed in the Creed of the Church of Scientology. Yep he's gone over the edge ... STRANGE fella ... And what exactly was he giggling about at the end of the video??? 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #5 January 17, 2008 Quote what exactly was he giggling about at the end of the video??? Yeah, I didn't quite catch that either. He blurted out some strange acronym and then proceeded to giggle like a little girl at recess...=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #6 January 17, 2008 Quote Quote what exactly was he giggling about at the end of the video??? Yeah, I didn't quite catch that either. He blurted out some strange acronym and then proceeded to giggle like a little girl at recess... Yeah, it sounded like "Have you ever met an SP?" He's just one freaky dude. America, you can keep him. We don't need him back. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #7 January 17, 2008 QuoteXenu, the great Alien Emperor 75 Million Years ago..... I think that it distorts reality in some degree. How about a low full 360 right into the ground. Scientolgy is the the religion of cuckoo cuckoos."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Unstable 9 #8 January 17, 2008 Help me understand this.... Is Scientology a religion for everyone, or is it primarily for the economically privileged? That was my first impression, and for the most part I've never seen any traces of it here in middle-class Kansas.=========Shaun ========== Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #9 January 17, 2008 Years ago, someone left a Dianetic book on a railcar I was assigned to. I read, maybe, half of it. Odd stuff. My impression was that it was a religion. Shortly after, I started noticing the Dianetic Centers and hearing more about Scientology. Sort of an organized form of insanity is my opinion."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #10 January 17, 2008 Quote Help me understand this.... Is Scientology a religion for everyone, or is it primarily for the economically privileged? That was my first impression, and for the most part I've never seen any traces of it here in middle-class Kansas. Well Dang! If there are no traces of it in as religiously diverse a group as middle class Kansas then it must truly be out there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #11 January 17, 2008 He seems to share the same view his place in the world as Dubya. But at least he can speak with coherent English syntax. Must be nice to know with absolute certainty that you are right."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #12 January 17, 2008 Quote So he says he doesn't hesitate to put HIS ethics on someone else because he ruthlessly puts them upon HIMSELF but what about Scientology preaching "religious tolerance" ... I think you misquoted him there...he said he doesn't hesitate to put ethics on someone (he didn't say 'my' ethics). Holding people to ethics isn't a bad thing. I'd kinda like to know that the police officers and teachers i.e. here in my town have some ethics in general.I don't know one single thing about Scientology beyond some famous actors are involved in it...but if you watched that video again and replaced the word 'Scientology' (and derivatives thereof) with 'people who have great wealth', it sounds like any other philanthropic organization, and not some kind of freak cult that people are making the video out to be. I just don't see how that video specifically is 'damning' evidence of...well, anything or anyone at all. He wants to help people. Cool. Let him help people that want his help. I don't really see him/them/whoever as trying to force anyone to submit to their viewpoint. More of just offering -if the waitress in your restaurant offers you ketchup and steak sauce with your meal, you're not going to freak out and report her for pushing Heinz products on ya, would you? -But once again, this observation is based solely upon that video. I don't know anything else about this subject...~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #13 January 17, 2008 Quote Quote So he says he doesn't hesitate to put HIS ethics on someone else because he ruthlessly puts them upon HIMSELF but what about Scientology preaching "religious tolerance" ... I think you misquoted him there...he said he doesn't hesitate to put ethics on someone (he didn't say 'my' ethics). Holding people to ethics isn't a bad thing. Okay, maybe he didn't say "his" ethics (I didn't quote it verbatim) BUT do you really think he didn't mean his "own" ethics?? His "beliefs"? I agree that holding people to ethics isn't bad BUT if a Jehovah's Witness told me I had to follow their belief that it's not ethical to have a blood transfusion when I needed one, and said I was unethical for having one, I'd have a problem with that. Quote I'd kinda like to know that the police officers and teachers i.e. here in my town have some ethics in general. Quote So do I. But don't push your "religious beliefs" on me and say I'm not "ethical" because I don't believe in the same thing you do. Personally, I think he's done more than enough nutty things in the media while muttering about Scientology that I think he's CRAZY. But that's just me. Pass the ketchup, will ya ... 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #14 January 17, 2008 I encourage everybody here to read up on Scientology to see just how batshit crazy these people are. And I do mean batshit crazy. Wait somebody's knocking on my door... .jim "Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #15 January 17, 2008 Quote I encourage everybody here to read up on Scientology to see just how batshit crazy these people are. And I do mean batshit crazy. Wait somebody's knocking on my door... .jim It's the Mormons. Don't worry. 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
n23x 0 #16 January 17, 2008 Hey, At least the mormons will leave me alone if I disagree with them, or publicly disagree with any facet of their organization. .jim "Don't touch my fucking Easter eggs, I'll be back monday." ~JTFC Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #17 January 17, 2008 Quote I encourage everybody here to read up on Scientology to see just how batshit crazy these people are. And I do mean batshit crazy. Wait somebody's knocking on my door... .jim Well you could at least point them to the clambake: http://www.xenu.net/"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #18 January 17, 2008 Quote Personally, I think he's done more than enough nutty things in the media while muttering about Scientology that I think he's CRAZY. But that's just me. Pass the ketchup, will ya ... Prolly why I don't really have much of an opinion either way. -I don't watch/listen to/read celebrity media unless it has something to do with the things I'm personally interested in...e.g. celebs talking about Autism (and then a lot of times I still don't bother...) Nothing against gossip mags, they're so entertaining! I just don't read them unless I'm at the hairdresser. ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shell666 0 #19 January 17, 2008 Quote Hey, At least the mormons will leave me alone if I disagree with them, or publicly disagree with any facet of their organization. .jim Just do what a friend of mine did one day when they knocked on his door. Long hair (yes, at the time he HAD a mullet), beard, t-shirt with some trashy thing on it, jeans, chain on the wallet, big ass boots ... He answered the door. There were 3 of them there. 2 teenagers and a young fella about 11 or 12. They gave their spiel and then made the mistake of asking "is there anything we can do for you?" He said (in a rather gruff voice) "Yeah, leave the kid." They never came back. And yes, he's a skydiver (my first instructor as a matter a fact!) I LOVE him! 'Shell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auburnguy 0 #20 January 17, 2008 Quote Quote Personally, I think he's done more than enough nutty things in the media while muttering about Scientology that I think he's CRAZY. But that's just me. Pass the ketchup, will ya ... Prolly why I don't really have much of an opinion either way. -I don't watch/listen to/read celebrity media unless it has something to do with the things I'm personally interested in...e.g. celebs talking about Autism (and then a lot of times I still don't bother...) Nothing against gossip mags, they're so entertaining! I just don't read them unless I'm at the hairdresser. I'm a news junkie, thats the only way I came across this. I also went to a rather strict christian high school where they made us learn about all these crazy religious groups. Also, reporter friends of mine at a major cable news outlet say that Scientologists harass and threaten anyone who tries to investigate them or anyone they deem as a threat. Just watch some of the amateur footage on youtube, its nuts. The bottom line is that it is based around how alien spirits were brainwashed by galactic war lords and the spirits live inside humans. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3QqjTsFKm4"If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ACMESkydiver 0 #21 January 17, 2008 Quote The bottom line is that it is based around how alien spirits were brainwashed by galactic war lords and the spirits live inside humans. -yeah I saw the movie 'Battlefield Earth' ...but I didn't find any mention of that on 'their' websites. If that is their basis, don't they want to tell people? All I found is a bunch of stuff about survival and 8 levels of existence and some brain stuff that honestly has been mentioned, a lot of it anyhoo, elsewhere (I mean outside of religions...be it in psychology or what do you call it -parapsychology? Is that what they call ESP and OBE thingies? Anyhoo...the Wikipedia reference is a long read and interesting, and terribly unflattering to the Mr. Hubbard guy. I can dig the ESP deal and dream thingies and how past events can kind of haunt your psyche (no shit, modern psychology will tell you that ), but I'm totally lost on space aliens and galactic war lords. OH!! Hey, was the whole 'Mind Head' parody in the movie 'Bowfinger' supposed to be aimed at Scientology?! I think I get the reference now if it was meant that way! The little pyramid hats and things, right? Did I figure it out? I'm so clever! ~Jaye Do not believe that possibly you can escape the reward of your action. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
auburnguy 0 #22 January 17, 2008 That and they say psychiatry is a pseudo science thought up by the nazis, and it is responsible for the holocaust and that chemical imbalances in the body don't really exist. I would love for one of the top psychiatrists in the country to have a sit down conversation with cruise about psychiatry and film the whole thing."If you don't like your job, you don't strike! You just go in every day, and do it really half assed. That's the American way." - Homer Simpson Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenchy68 0 #23 January 17, 2008 Quote That and they say psychiatry is a pseudo science thought up by the nazis, and it is responsible for the holocaust and that chemical imbalances in the body don't really exist. I would love for one of the top psychiatrists in the country to have a sit down conversation with cruise about psychiatry and film the whole thing. Although he's taking it pretty far, I have to admit that some followers of more "conventional" religions (Christians, Muslims, etc...) can sometimes make as much sense as he does. At least to me. "For once you have tasted Absinthe you will walk the earth with your eyes turned towards the gutter, for there you have been and there you will long to return." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1969912 0 #24 January 17, 2008 Quote Quote Quote what exactly was he giggling about at the end of the video??? Yeah, I didn't quite catch that either. He blurted out some strange acronym and then proceeded to giggle like a little girl at recess... Yeah, it sounded like "Have you ever met an SP?" He's just one freaky dude. America, you can keep him. We don't need him back. SP means "Suppressive Person". The Clamhead Church official glossary says: Suppressive Person: "a person who possesses a distinct set of characteristics and mental attitudes that cause him to suppress other people in his vicinity. This is the person whose behavior is calculated to be disastrous. Also called antisocial personality." WTF that means, I have no idea. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suppressive_Person "Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ." -NickDG Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #25 January 17, 2008 What a plonker!! A succinct summation, I'm sure that you'll agree (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
