shropshire 0 #1 January 16, 2008 Get a fucking grip people. clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamLanes 1 #2 January 16, 2008 The rest of the world needs to stop being a bunch of pussies and stop letting the US push you around. Seriously. Non-violence is the key (don't push back). Ron Paul is America's only hope. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #3 January 16, 2008 It's the playground bully moaning that it's got no friends and can't understand why. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 January 16, 2008 QuoteGet a fucking grip people. clicky It isn't the American people; It is the power-mongers in charge who must constantly bleat about external enemies in an effort to portray themselves as the solution, else the people will start to realize they are really the problem."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #5 January 16, 2008 Yeah I know ..... but I just wanted to rant. This is SC afterall (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #6 January 16, 2008 >> Well, I'm a Liberal... that's pretty damned tuff for us... I could get my liberal card taken away for less. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #7 January 16, 2008 Damn, my post dun gone disappeared. I didn't like to make a fuss. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 January 16, 2008 Yeahhh thought that you could get away with that one dinchya? (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #9 January 16, 2008 Well, snide comments in here usually get one of two responses. Luckily you're a Brit so god gave you a sense of humour instead of an ego. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #10 January 16, 2008 Cheers mate ...... ummm I think (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #11 January 16, 2008 QuoteGet a fucking grip people. clicky You've got terrorist attacks occurring there. Here in the US, we don't. Chertoff is simply taking steps to help keep terrorist attacks away. I think the increased checks are appropriate. You on the east side of the Atlantic need to get a grip on your terrorism issues. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #12 January 16, 2008 QuoteQuoteGet a fucking grip people. clicky You've got terrorist attacks occurring there. Here in the US, we don't. Chertoff is simply taking steps to help keep terrorist attacks away. I think the increased checks are appropriate. You on the east side of the Atlantic need to get a grip on your terrorism issues. Lisa Simpson might have a rock you could be interested in purchasing... "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #13 January 16, 2008 QuoteLisa Simpson might have a rock you could be interested in purchasing... I get your point; couldn't disagree more. You folks have got your front door wide open to terrorism and other negative influences of eastern culture. Why shouldn't the US guard against your lapse? . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jjiimmyyt 0 #14 January 16, 2008 Haven't you had more attacks on US soil in the last few years from people, US or other nationalities, who were perfectly legal to be there? How many attacks from people entering the country illegally? Increased border security is just there to show the public that the government is doing something, even though its not effective. I dont blame them, they have to do something, they are just covering their arse. Its a shame, I've really enjoyed my visits to the US but it doesn't look like I'll be back for a while. "This isn't an iron lung, people. You can actually disconnect and not die." -Dave Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #15 January 16, 2008 >Why shouldn't the US guard against your lapse? Remember this? Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride from land to land; Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame. "Keep ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!" Perhaps you should get that re-written post-haste, lest anyone think that this is America, the land of the free and the home of the brave, the last refuge for the dispossessed. Make sure they know that this new America has become the land of the TSA and the home of the fearful, a place where everyone is terrified of foreigners lest they turn out to be evil heartless fascists communists terrorists homicide bombers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asmund 0 #16 January 16, 2008 But border protection and defending the sovereignty of the US mainland, is at least a legitimate task of the military. Blowing up countries in the middle east, even if trying to create peace, it not a legitimate task of the US military. It is interventionism, and it was strongly discouraged by the founders, as well as the constitution. The fake-conservatives (neo) have even failed at securing US oil supply from "falling in the hands of terrorists who will increase the price". During the Iraq invasion the oil price have more than doubled, and that is not because of the terrorists, but rather the fear of more attacks from the US, encouraging more terrorist responses against oil production. It should be realized that many of the terrorist nations react perfectly logical - when being invaded by the US, they fight in the only way they are technologically capable of: IEDs and suicide bombers. If the US don't attack first, or stage "Gulf of Tonkin" incidents to wage war, there is no way that men with sticks and stones would harm Americans 4000 miles away. Just stop taking student visas from terrorist nations. Ron Paul is the only dude who will do that.I like subway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #17 January 16, 2008 Quote He said it was important to increase security checks on passengers from Europe - most of whom are currently able to enter the United States without being screened first because of a visa waiver programme. WTF??? I've never been to any other country where they took my fingerprints and photographed me like a common criminal, and thats after being hauled into a room and given shit for having a suntan and a funny sounding name by Charlie Chan's "number wun son" the fucker could barely talk English. On top of that they take our credit card details before we even get on the plane along with a shed load of personal information. If that isn't screening then WTF is???Unless its for work I'm giving the US a wide berth. I'll go spend my Pounds somewhere where they know how to make people feel welcomed.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #18 January 16, 2008 QuoteThe rest of the world needs to stop being a bunch of pussies and stop letting the US push you around. Seriously. Non-violence is the key (don't push back). Ron Paul is America's only hope. I always liked him, never could understand how he got to be a porn star though.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #19 January 16, 2008 QuoteIt isn't the American people; It is the power-mongers in charge who must constantly bleat about external enemies in an effort to portray themselves as the solution, else the people will start to realize they are really the problem. Those two statements seem to contradict eachther.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #20 January 16, 2008 QuoteQuoteIt isn't the American people; It is the power-mongers in charge who must constantly bleat about external enemies in an effort to portray themselves as the solution, else the people will start to realize they are really the problem. Those two statements seem to contradict eachther.... "they" == power-mongers, not the people"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #21 January 16, 2008 I figured that. But, by the people not relaizing that the "power-mongers" are the problem. And, with the people doing the voting. Doesn't that mean that in your statement the people are the problem at this point? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
skydyvr 0 #22 January 16, 2008 Quote"Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free . . . Your point is a bit of an overaction, especially to me since I've got a pretty liberal view of how immigration should work (similar to your views, in fact). Being in favor of increased border security is not an indication of wanting to stop immigration. . . =(_8^(1) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,080 #23 January 16, 2008 In that case, my apologies. It sounded like you were worried about "negative influences of other cultures" getting into the US. If you are worried more about criminals getting in, then I agree with you. I think we should do a better job of both keeping criminals out, and letting people who want to work/go to school in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #24 January 16, 2008 Quote Quote He said it was important to increase security checks on passengers from Europe - most of whom are currently able to enter the United States without being screened first because of a visa waiver programme. WTF??? I've never been to any other country where they took my fingerprints and photographed me like a common criminal, and thats after being hauled into a room and given shit for having a suntan and a funny sounding name by Charlie Chan's "number wun son" the fucker could barely talk English. On top of that they take our credit card details before we even get on the plane along with a shed load of personal information. If that isn't screening then WTF is???Unless its for work I'm giving the US a wide berth. I'll go spend my Pounds somewhere where they know how to make people feel welcomed. Quite!!! (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #25 January 16, 2008 QuoteYou've got terrorist attacks occurring there. Here in the US, we don't. Chertoff is simply taking steps to help keep terrorist attacks away. I think the increased checks are appropriate. You on the east side of the Atlantic need to get a grip on your terrorism issues. I believe that you have an entirely false impression of the scale of terrorism in Europe.. It's almost non-existant. Way more people die on the roads or from smoking etc... etc... and way less money spent to solve these much larger problems. Lets have some perspective, for a change. "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
