Time for a Republican Morality thread.

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Face it Chris.. those are the people that WANT to shove THEIR version of morality and legislate their morality onto everyone else. And to top it off.. a hell of a lot of them are rubes... who cant even come to grips with science that is outside of the "science in their 2500 year old book

That my dear is the definition of a rube

You mean, kind of like the religion that says we should tax the hell out of hard working, financially responsible people, and give it to lazy, useless wastes of human skin. Is that how you choose to legislate righteousness?

[mnealtx 0]

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You mean, kind of like the religion that says we should tax the hell out of hard working, financially responsible people, and give it to lazy, useless wastes of human skin. Is that how you choose to legislate righteousness?

I don't think that's Amazon's religion...more Lucky's.

Mike
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I agree with the first part, but am not sure about the "...advertise themselves as such." part. You may well be right though. Could you provide some examples please?

The whole "moral majority", "christian coalition", "family values" thing.

Blues,
Dave

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[billvon 3,132]

>Bill sometimes you go deep to just go deep.

Sorry! Let me put it this way then -

Anti church people are often NOT anti faith.

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I don't think that's Amazon's religion...more Lucky's.

Yup.. that one totally missed the broad side of the barn

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Mike
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I agree with the first part, but am not sure about the "...advertise themselves as such." part. You may well be right though. Could you provide some examples please?

The whole "moral majority", "christian coalition", "family values" thing.

Blues,
Dave

Thanks. The "moral majority" is/was a PAC that separate from the Republican Party. I have no doubt most people associated with the group are Republicans, but associating many, most or all R's with MM is wrong.

Ditto for the Christian Coalition.

The Rep Party platform does say "We support the appointment of judges who respect traditional family values and the sanctity of innocent human life." They don't define "traditional family values". The platform doesn't contain the word "morality". The word "moral" is used a few times, but not in this context. The Rep Party does not appear to claim that it is a/the "party of morality" or anything similar to that.


So, going back to the post where you claimed that "Republicans seem to advertise themselves as [being more moral]", I just don't agree that what you said is correct. Many individuals, and some groups supporting the Reps may make that claim, but they don't represent everyone.


BTW, the "Christian Right" is at least partially to blame for the Rep's image problem, and I'd personally like to see them either STFU, or go form their own party.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_Majority

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Coalition_of_America

http://www.rnc.org/

http://www.democrats.org/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_right

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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You mean, kind of like the religion that says we should tax the hell out of hard working, financially responsible people, and give it to lazy, useless wastes of human skin. Is that how you choose to legislate righteousness?

I don't think that's Amazon's religion...more Lucky's.

Right, and yours is your personal little auschwitz, one at a time with exclusive medical coverage. BTW, I've been working 50-65 hr weeks for months now, out in the cold. But don'tlet that stop your shithouse assumptions.

[mnealtx 0]

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Right, and yours is your personal little auschwitz, one at a time with exclusive medical coverage.

You need to get a refund on the telepathy thing...it's wrong (again).

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BTW, I've been working 50-65 hr weeks for months now, out in the cold. But don'tlet that stop your shithouse assumptions.

Oh, good, so you're putting your money where your mouth is and buying insurance for those that don't have it. You're such a GOOD boy.

I've worked 72/week since mid 2006, and 84/week preceding that, back to 1997, minus the 30 days/year that I had for vacation, of course. Am I supposed to be impressed, or something?

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Anti church people are often NOT anti faith.

My experience has been that most people who are anti-church have very little "faith" they tend to be unstructured in whatever "faith" you speak of.

I believe that there are just as many "church people" who really don't care if your a "anti church" people. I've attended some sort of church since childhood and have never tried to convert anyone. I could care less.

But hell Bill you mileage may vary due to your driving conditions.

Kevin Keenan is my hero, a double FUP, he does so much with so little

[TheAnvil 0]

What a nice list from the Daily Kos and the DemoKKKlanic Underground - bastions of truth[sic] both. Nice to see they even cite the National Enquirer. About their reading level I suppose - at least they're somewhat literate. They even took a swipe at Fox News - has anyone there stated a liberal SCOTUS nominee's wife should do the country a favor and feed him high cholesterol meals so he dies an early death and called him a despicable person on the air, by the way? No? Thought not. Quick comparison to CNN for you (yep; happened. So many other instances...but that one stands out).

They have compiled quite the list though. Some things are bullshit - anybody want to tell me what's wrong with doing something legal with your own money, for example? - and others are true.

I think what's salient is how the party and populace react to the transgressions of their leaders. With regards to El Jefe Clintonista, everybody's FAVORITE Spanish expert and driver Ted Kennedy, Gerry Studds, Al $harpton, and Je$$e Jack$on I think we all know the answer. The difference is striking.

If Mr. Nick Wride wishes to define Republican morality by the transgressions (substantiated and unsubstantiated) of those listed I'd LOVE to see what he has to say about the substantiated transgressions of Messrs. Clinton, Studds, $harpton, Jack$on, and, yes, everybody's FAVORITE Spanish expert and driver, Ted Kennedy and how they make the DemoKKKlanic Party appear when viewed through the morality lens.

LMFAO. Neither party has a right to the moral high ground. That should even be obvious to idiots who read the National Enquirer and take it seriously enough to cite it.

Vinny the Anvil
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So, going back to the post where you claimed that "Republicans seem to advertise themselves as [being more moral]", I just don't agree that what you said is correct. Many individuals, and some groups supporting the Reps may make that claim, but they don't represent everyone.

Are you kidding me? This administration is now even trying to keep COWS from fucking!

Blues,
Dave

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(drink Mountain Dew)

[Amazon 7]

Vinny.. the Strawman is buggering you again.......

I KNOW you are well aware that the KKK and other righr wing groups exclusivly have bee good solid rePUBICanss now for about 35 years when they were stabbed in the back by Johnson and the Civil Rights act... It would be horrible for them to be in the same party as so many colored and other mud people.

No matter how much you want to redirect the reality.... I have to wonder why you keep bringing up that issue....Nowadays they call it the C of CC.. aka.. the Uptown Klan

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So, going back to the post where you claimed that "Republicans seem to advertise themselves as [being more moral]", I just don't agree that what you said is correct. Many individuals, and some groups supporting the Reps may make that claim, but they don't represent everyone.

Are you kidding me? This administration is now even trying to keep COWS from fucking!

Blues,
Dave

......only if they're same-sex or unmarried

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG

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No matter how much you want to redirect the reality.... I have to wonder why you keep bringing up that issue....Nowadays they call it the C of CC.. aka.. the Uptown Klan

As opposed to the DNC, who hold them down with handouts and special treatments...in effect telling them "you can't make it without OUR help".... and they buy into it.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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[TheAnvil 0]

In the 60's perhaps. Today's racists are hard core democrats. Non negotiable fact of life. My spelling is quite apropos for the party that supports racial discrimination for so many reasons...other than law enforcement, of course.

Vinny the Anvil
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[Amazon 7]

The only possible response to that phallacy




Intersting set of right wing blinders you are wearin there Hoss

Especially considering you have so much to do with one of the few segments of our society that is more integrated than most of the rest of this society. This is something you just cant read in your vaunted right wing news sources.. but you will never put yourself in the correct geography to see the reality that the right wing C of CC types can not and do not wish to see.
Sad Vinny very very sad.

[billvon 3,132]

>Today's racists are hard core democrats. Non negotiable fact of life.

Barbara Cubin, R-WY:

“My sons are 25 and 30. They are blond-haired and blue-eyed. One amendment today said we could not sell guns to anybody under drug treatment. So does that mean if you go into a black community, you cannot sell a gun to any black person, or does that mean because my — “

Rep. Watt then demanded that her words be stricken from the record as inappropriate.

Cubin: I want “to apologize to my colleague for his sensitivities. . . but I do not withdraw my words.”

Sorry, Vinnie. As you well know, racism is alive and well on both sides of the aisle.

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>Today's racists are hard core democrats. Non negotiable fact of life.

Barbara Cubin, R-WY:

“My sons are 25 and 30. They are blond-haired and blue-eyed. One amendment today said we could not sell guns to anybody under drug treatment. So does that mean if you go into a black community, you cannot sell a gun to any black person, or does that mean because my — “

Rep. Watt then demanded that her words be stricken from the record as inappropriate.

Cubin: I want “to apologize to my colleague for his sensitivities. . . but I do not withdraw my words.”

Sorry, Vinnie. As you well know, racism is alive and well on both sides of the aisle.

Anyone could probably find hundreds of instances on both sides of the aisle, if you want to find them.

The point Vinnie (and I) made up-thread is on a sweeping, institutional level. And on that level, you're more likely to see Dems supporting the policy than Reps.

Oh, and Jeanne? Before you get TOO far up on that high horse, let me remind you that "times were different then".

Mike
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[billvon 3,132]

>Anyone could probably find hundreds of instances on both sides of
>the aisle, if you want to find them.

Exactly. In the real world of politics, racism is not a democratic or republican issue. Sadly it pervades both sides.

[TheAnvil 0]

How about the most prominent racists today are hard core democrats. Far more accurate, 'tis true.

You'll find racists in the Republican party - sure. They aren't running for President and their endorsements are not sought after by anyone running. The prevalence of racists and racist propaganda on the left as compared to the right is an absolute non-negotiable fact. They showcase it every election cycle. AL $HARPTON WAS ON THEIR TICKET IN THE PRIMARIES AND JACK$ON WAS RUNNING THEIR SHOW IN FL FOR A WHILE IN '00.

This Cubin fucktard - along with that David Duke kook - are ostracized on the right. His remarks are right along the lines of opposing a SCOTUS nominee 'because he is Hispanic' - as the nice memo told us the Senate Dem's were doing in yet another example of leftist racists.

The difference is evident. When the left touts their civil rights agenda with regards to race I laugh at them and give them the credibility they deserve - none.

Vinny the Anvil
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[billvon 3,132]

>This Cubin fucktard - along with that David Duke kook - are ostracized on the right.

As are Sharpton and Jackson on the left. (That is to say, Duke, Cubin, Sharpton and Jackson get enough support from extremists to stick around, but they are rejected by the mainstream of both parties.)

>When the left touts their civil rights agenda with regards to race I
>laugh at them and give them the credibility they deserve - none.

Vinnie, when the left says _anything_ you laugh at them and give them zero credibility!

[TheAnvil 0]

I seem to recall $harpton hosting a debate and the Democratic presidential candidates all attending...perhaps I imagined it.

I do tend to laugh at the Dems and give them no credibility these days. I used to be one, actually. I feel they've betrayed liberalism as a political philosophy in favor of populism and fringe causes that have the potential to rally certain groups of voters to the polls to vote for them.

The Republican party has gone down that road as well over the past eight years and I'm fairly disgusted with them too, but not quite as much as I am with the left. Anybody with a three digit IQ who has read the budget knows they've abandon fiscal conservatism, and the arch-conservatism of some of their religious lobby is scary as hell.

Sometimes I do wonder at why I am less disgusted with them than leftists, and I think it's because of the issues most important to me personally - education, budget, and foreign policy would be my top three -as well as my avid hatred of racism. Even though the Republicans of late have shown themselves inept as all three, among other things, I believe them to have the better plan for all of my top three. If indeed a plan they have, that is, it would be more to my liking I would imagine.

Vinny the Anvil
Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL
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....racism is alive and well on both sides of the aisle.

Couldn't have said it much better.

My version: "....alive and well in certain people/groups, but not in the nation overall."

"Once we got to the point where twenty/something's needed a place on the corner that changed the oil in their cars we were doomed . . ."
-NickDG