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The report released Thursday was a highly edited version of Fine's 87-page audit that the FBI deemed too sensitive to be viewed publicly.

I wonder what bombshell was in the actual audit that we paeons aren't allowed to see.
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Are you suggesting dumping MORE money on the problems without drastically changing how it's managed?



Isn't that the way government has worked for the last, oh... 70-80 years or so?
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Are you suggesting dumping MORE money on the problems without drastically changing how it's managed?



Isn't that the way government has worked for the last, oh... 70-80 years or so?



I suppose the Bush administration could go to a credit counseling service.
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Are you suggesting dumping MORE money on the problems without drastically changing how it's managed?



Isn't that the way government has worked for the last, oh... 70-80 years or so?



I suppose the Bush administration could go to a credit counseling service.



Or maybe the Democratic congress (hell, ANY congress) could draft a budget that actually CUTS spending.
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Or maybe the Democratic congress (hell, ANY congress) could draft a budget that actually CUTS spending.



to be fair, their attempts at cutting some spending has met the veto. Their failing is that they accepted this.



Was that an ACTUAL spending cut, or a "Demcrat spending cut", i.e., less of an increase than what they wanted?
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according to the article.

There's your problem. You read the article. We don't do that here; we just take the headline and run.:P It's a much more creative approach.:ph34r:

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according to the article.

There's your problem. You read the article. We don't do that here; we just take the headline and run.:P It's a much more creative approach.:ph34r:

Wendy W.


That whole "living, breathing document" and all that... :P
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There are many companies that don't like to do business with gov't agencies, because of the problems encountered in getting the invoice to the person who has the authority to approve the payment. Usually it's a case of not verifying where the invoice has to go before providing the service.

Back in the 70's when Nixon had his CA White House @ San Clemente, Firestone sold the White House some tires for his limo. I was the credit manager for the SoCal stores, and kept getting the run around trying to find where the invoice should go so it would get paid and I didn't have to carry it as past due.

Finally, I drove from L.A. to San Clemente and up to the Secret Service Gate. I handed the agent a carbon copy of the invoice and said "I'm here to repo the tires from the deadbeat, and I'll be calling the reporters if there's any trouble." I didn't get invited in for coffee, but after about a half hour a Secret Service agent got on the phone found the right person.

The next day a check showed up.
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Hey as long as Halliburton, Blackwater, and all the other friends of the administration are getting all the money from our pockets that the administration needs to ensure their Golden Parachutes... its all good



Why would they need that, if they're in bed with the Bilderburgers/NWO-of-the-week as you keep claiming?

Look up all those "no-bid contracts' yet?
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Why would they need that, if they're in bed with the Bilderburgers/NWO-of-the-week as you keep claiming?

Look up all those "no-bid contracts' yet?






Mike its all about the transferrence of wealth.. from US.. the US TAXPAYER... to their family coffers...I realize you are drinking the RED KOOLAID... so you will not be able to see a problem with any list provided.

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/no_bid_and_no_problem.php

To name a few of the war profiteers wired into the Bush/Cheney patronage system:

In 2003, a few of Bush’s closest political allies created New Bridge Strategies to help corporations “evaluate and take advantage of business opportunities in the Middle East following the conclusion of the U.S.-led war.” New Bridge shares its Washington, DC offices with Barbour, Griffith & Rogers—the high-powered Republican lobbying firm founded by Haley Barbour, former head of the Republican National Committee and current governor of Mississippi. The firm’s CEO is Joe Allbaugh, the Bush/Cheney 2000 national campaign manager (and subsequent head of FEMA), and others involved include Ed Rogers (a top aide to Bush Sr.) and Lanny Griffith (who held several top advisory positions under Bush Sr., and is a 2004 Pioneer). Allbaugh recently registered as a lobbyist with Lockheed Martin. Looks like he finally figured out where the big money is.
Top GOP strategist Charlie Black’s clients have included Fluor, which received a big public works contract in Iraq to reconstruct the country’s water and electricity. Black is chairman of BKSH, an affiliate of global public relations giant Burson-Marsteller, and a big backer of Ahmed Chalabi before the war. In June, the London-based Telegraph reported that an arrest warrant was issued by the Iraqi police for Francis Brooke, a BKSH consultant who attempted to block a recent raid on Chalabi’s Iraqi headquarters, after Chalabi was accused of passing American secrets to Iran.
In the administration’s drive to create a beacon for democracy for the entire Middle East, another outstanding example of “do as we say and not as we do” has been the way the contract to develop a “competitive private sector” in Iraq has been handled. In this instance, the U.S. Agency for International Development allowed BearingPoint to help write the specifications for the $240 million contract, which in effect knocked its competitors out of the running, according to AID’s own inspector general. BearingPoint (formerly KPMG Consulting) and its employees have given more than $117,000 to the 2000 and 2004 Bush election campaigns. In 2003, an $80 million BearingPoint contract in Florida was withdrawn after critics complained about the company’s close ties to Gov. Jeb Bush.
Former Rep. Bob Livingston, R-La., runs a lobbying firm that has represented well-placed Iraqi families seeking to form business alliances with U.S. and foreign companies wishing to do business in Iraq. Livingston has also gained some notoriety in Washington for lobbying against provisions that would ban tax-dodging companies that have incorporated offshore from being eligible for federal contracts. Recently he was part of an effort that succeeded in convincing Congress to drop an attempt to block the Department of Homeland Security’s from giving Bermuda-based Accenture a $10 billion contract for, of all things, “border control.” (U.S. taxpayers who don’t have any offshore accounts might not be happy to learn that Accenture also has a contract to help the IRS upgrade its website.)
In 2003 Coalition Provisional Authority chief Paul Bremer issued a decree that Iraq’s 200 state-owned companies would be privatized and that foreign owners would be allowed to expatriate 100 percent of the profits. This looting of Iraq’s state-owned businesses—disguised as “private-sector development” was stalled by worker protests and skepticism among wary investors concerned about the strength of the insurgency. Thomas Foley—a former Citigroup banker assigned by the CPA to oversee the privatization process, returned to Greenwich, Conn. in early 2004, where he is the state co-chair for the Bush/Cheney re-election campaign.
Three weeks after construction and engineering firm Washington Group was awarded a contract to rebuild water projects in Iraq, 31 company employees gave $27,750 to Bush. By the end of April 2004, CEO Stephen Hanks had become a Bush campaign “Pioneer” (by raising more than $100,000). Washington Group spokesman Jack Hermann was unconcerned about any appearance of impropriety. "You either participate in the system or you don't," Hermann told a Bloomberg reporter. "People can draw ulterior motives. We understand the baggage that comes with that."
The kingpin of corporate cronies, of course, is Vice President Cheney’s old firm, Halliburton. Recent revelations that a political appointee working under Douglas Feith made the decision to override objections from career Pentagon contract experts to award Halliburton a key oil-related contract which provided the company an inside track for no-bid billion-dollar contracts has given partisan critics plenty of ammunition to criticize the administration’s bending of contract rules to benefit their friends. The fact that Cheney’s chief of staff was notified of the decision contradicts the vice president’s claim that he has had no involvement in the decision and, along with his televised assertion that he has no “ongoing financial interest” in the company (while continuing to receive more than $150,000 in deferred compensation payments) has made his connection to the king of corporate cronies a significant potential liability for the administration’s credibility and the upcoming election.

“The entire Halliburton affair represents the worst in government contracts with private companies: influence peddling, kickbacks, overcharging and no-bid deals," charged Sen. Frank Lautenberg, D-N.J. in a March 2004 Associated Press article. But the vice president’s old firm is by no means the only war profiteer that has close ties to top administration officials. In fact, just as the U.S. media failed to objectively cover the war after being em-bedded with the troops, they have mostly failed to map out how thoroughly inbedded this network of contractors is with the Bush family, friends and campaign cronies

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040704/news_mz1b4nation.html

Same companies.. same bullshit in Katrina aftermath...how is that going by the way:S

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/14/national/nationalspecial/14spend.html

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=12647

There are hundreds more... but I guess YOU get the picture.:S:S
So.. Please tell us what subsidiary of which company are you working for again... in "support" of which

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I've posted several times where you can get the actual breakdown of the contracts, yet.... same old conspiricist bullshit.

Halliburton contracts under Clinton - good

Halliburton contracts under Bush - bad.

More hot air about whatever Chimpy Hallibushitler has done this week that the barking moonbats think is illegal. So friggin IMPEACH him already, for God's sake - ANYTHING to shut up the whining!

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So.. Please tell us what subsidiary of which company are you working for again... in "support" of which



I think I'll pass on providing what company I work for, given the general level of discourse on threads like this - suffice it to say that it is not KBR or any associate of KBR.
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More hot air about whatever Chimpy Hallibushitler has done this week that the barking moonbats think is illegal. So friggin IMPEACH him already, for God's sake - ANYTHING to shut up the whining!



No.. I do not want him impeached. I want both Cheney AND Bush to be tried by the World Court for war crimes.. period.. and anyone else responsible for this sad excuse at raqping the natural resources of a country for personal gain...

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More hot air about whatever Chimpy Hallibushitler has done this week that the barking moonbats think is illegal. So friggin IMPEACH him already, for God's sake - ANYTHING to shut up the whining!



No.. I do not want him impeached. I want both Cheney AND Bush to be tried by the World Court for war crimes.. period.. and anyone else responsible for this sad excuse at raqping the natural resources of a country for personal gain...



Ah, I see...insufficient proof to impeach, but sufficient proof to try them in the World Court....where I'm sure Mssrs. Clinton and Gore will be right alongside them when you look at the Iraq embargos, Bosnia, Somalia and Kosovo.
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We are talking about YOUR CHIMP IN CHIEF.....

But just for you.. Clinton got a blow job... but he did NOT invade IRAQ on false pretenses....

Yall get your little pink panties all tied up in knots about CLINTON LIED.. yet thi whole ADMINISTRATION of CHICKENHAWK NEOCONS lied and have enriched the companies they used to work for.. and also will have the same fucknuggets back working for them so they can benefit further next year with stupendous Golden POarachutes ready for them.. for a job well done.. IF they just dont declare martial law like they want so they can contue feeding at the trough of power and greed.

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We are talking about YOUR CHIMP IN CHIEF.....

But just for you.. Clinton got a blow job... but he did NOT invade IRAQ on false pretenses....



He just bombed aspirin factories and other places so that country would conveniently forget about the impeachment hearing THE NEXT DAY. All because he didn't have the SELF-CONTROL to keep his dick in his pants....yet you libs think that's the greatest thing ever and try to lecture the right about morals??? HA!!!

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Yall get your little pink panties all tied up in knots about CLINTON LIED.. yet thi whole ADMINISTRATION of CHICKENHAWK NEOCONS lied and have enriched the companies they used to work for.. and also will have the same fucknuggets back working for them so they can benefit further next year with stupendous Golden POarachutes ready for them..



Well, with the PROOF you have of all that, why haven't you impeached yet? Oh, that's right - it's bullshit proof.

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IF they just dont declare martial law like they want so they can contue feeding at the trough of power and greed.



I hate to tell you this, but if that *WAS* the plan, 9/11 was the perfect opportunity to do it.

BTW, how much is Bubba Jeff getting per speaking arrangement, again? How much was that book deal? Hmm... yeah, SOMEONE is getting rich off of being in government, all right...

Bimbo-eruption-gate: "I don't recall"
Gennifer-Flowers-gate: "I don't recall"
Juanita-Broadrick-gate: "I dont' recall"
Travelgate: "I don't recall"
Whitewater: "I don't recall"
Illegal FBI Records-gate: "I don't recall"
China-gate: "I don't recall"

Book offer: "HOW much? Sure, I remember everything!"

Try a different homepage than dailykos.
Mike
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yet you libs think that's the greatest thing ever and try to lecture the right about morals??? HA!!!




BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

How many of your MORAL Republicans have been caught with a wide stance.. or their pants down... or soliciting minors again???? The Party of Morality aint been doin so good there Bubba.

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Well, with the PROOF you have of all that, why haven't you impeached yet? Oh, that's right - it's bullshit proof.



IF the democratic congress wanted to shut down our government for a major ZOO like YOUR guys did with Clinton.. I bet they could get some of those who have used EXECUTIVE PRIVELEDGE to prevent TELLING the TRUTH ... once they started handing out indictments... it ALWAYS works.. the rats start abondoning the ship once they see a FEDERAL POUND THEM IN THE ASS PRISON.. in their near future.
Remember the attorney general Gonzales and his lies..well he got caught in lies... and the circus performance Rummy put on???
Want to bet they could come up with the facts of cherry picking intel.. and lieing to congress??

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I hate to tell you this, but if that *WAS* the plan, 9/11 was the perfect opportunity to do it.



So what General Franks said should be just discounted... about the consequences of our government and Martial Law after the next use of WMD against the US by terrorists.... I think he actually told the truth...


SO where are all the "truths" he recalled in his book?????

I do not mind a politician making money by speaking...

I do mind a politician..allowing a bunch of NO BID contracts to their former companies and to their friends... that then make BILLIONS on the no oversite and cost plus deals.. and then they get sweet multi million jobs with the same companies when their term is over.

I hope you really can see a difference... nah.. you wont..you support it.

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or soliciting minors again????



Dems do it (or worse) and not only get applauded, but re-elected - just another day at the orifice, evidently.

Republicans gets ostracized and forced to retire, or go to jail.

I can see which you're more concerned about.

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I do mind a politician..allowing a bunch of NO BID contracts to their former companies and to their friends... that then make BILLIONS on the no oversite and cost plus deals.. and then they get sweet multi million jobs with the same companies when their term is over.



Well, I can see that you STILL haven't gone and looked up that info on how gov't contracts actually work, if you still think that the Pres/VP control it. It also illustrates that you don't actually KNOW how Halliburton/KBR contracts were let besides what you read on impeachbushnow.com

I suppose this would be the place to mention KBR's *true* no-bid contracts in Bosnia and Kosovo, or Travelgate (now THERE'S some no-bid action for you, replacing the White House travel office staff with staff from an ARKANSAS company!) - but that's different since it was King Klintoon, right?
Mike
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or soliciting minors again????

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Dems do it (or worse) and not only get applauded, but re-elected - just another day at the orifice, evidently.




But you forget.. THAT WAS THEN. when things were rockin in the sexual revolution.. SORRY you missed out on it... perhaps a whole bunch of right wingers would not be so freaking uptight now if they could have got laid back then.. this is NOW.. and the congresscritter who did it..... gee he was not the HYPOCRITE Foley was by virtue of... what was that....oh yes....Mark Foley who co-chaired the Congressional Missing and Exploited Children's Caucus:S

Or the Right wing preachers who rail on and on about the perversion of homosexuality... then WOW.. wait for it now.....are found to like that whole get pounded in the ass thing for themselves:S

Or the War Hero.Cunningham.. in the vanguard of the Party of Morality..... who gets convicted for his daliances into Greedy land at the expense of the American people>:(

Shall I go on???? you guys keep coming up with 30 and 40 year old shit to try to balance out your feelings of guilt for your support of your particular bunch of scumbags... I aint impressed.. OR fooled.

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