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I don't know. It's something about a man and a woman becoming one. I quess if you don't really believe that, why even waste the money and energy of going through the process?



That's a completely unrelated correlation.

While in my personal life I very much like the symbolism of sharing one name, I've got an established publication & professional record under another name.

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I don't think anyone is arguing against keeping your maiden name in that type of situation... what I see being argued is more ambiguous, in the sense of the separate name acting to "hold oneself apart" from the rest of the family, if that makes any sense.
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I find it odd that anyone still expects women to take their husbands' last names.



I don't know. It's something about a man and a woman becoming one. I quess if you don't really believe that, why even waste the money and energy of going through the process?



I can understand why a married couple would want to have the same last name; I just can't see any reason why the male's last name should be preferable to the female's.

Oh, and I don't personally think of marriage as being about a man and a woman becoming one, but that's just me. But luckily most of us can still get married even if we have different ideas about the meaning of marriage. Well, unless you're gay... but now I'm getting way off topic.

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I find it odd that anyone still expects women to take their husbands' last names.



I don't know. It's something about a man and a woman becoming one. I quess if you don't really believe that, why even waste the money and energy of going through the process?


I can understand why a married couple would want to have the same last name; I just can't see any reason why the male's last name should be preferable to the female's.


I've got a good friend who, when he married quite some time ago, hyphenated his last name the same way his wife hyphenated her's. It seemed a little odd.

Their marriage didn't work out, and when they divorced, he didn't bother dropping her name off of his. That seemed a little more odd.

He's since remarried and neither he nor his new wife felt like fucking with their names, so he's now married to one woman and carrying (hyphenated) the last name of another. That seems fairly odd to me, but it's not really any of my business. To each their own. :)
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Don't you think it odd that the wife of a new governor would not take his last name?



Well, not really. Unless she thought that taking his last name would help his or her career. Other than that, I can't think of any reason why it would be odd for her to keep her own last name.

I find it odd that anyone still expects women to take their husbands' last names.

What ever is good for you. In her case, I think she thought more of it as a partnership than a marriage. Looks like it worked out for both of them up to now.
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What does that have to do with anything?

OK, this is my observation having lived in Arkansas during the Clinton reign. Don't you think it odd that the wife of a new governor would not take his last name?



At the time she was the high earner in the family with an established career under her name. So it would seem more odd to me to switch.

I wouldn't be changing my name in a marriage and have no expectations of the same from the other person. But if it comes to that happening and kids, not sure what the plan is. I'll worry about it then.

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I could care less what his parents named him. But I'd bet the farm that being exposed to a Muslim school and environment affected him in some way.
Didn't all of our upbringing affect each of us????



Yes. I was sent to Sunday School for years and church on Sundays and all that. By the time I was about 10 I knew it was totally bogus and was just going thru the motions to avoid the arguements and lectures. They made me go a couple more years and at age 12 said I could decide for myself; which of course I had already done years before.

So I was definitely affected, but not how you might think. I came away with total distrust for all those that tried to cram fairy tales and other nonsense down my throat. Not all attempts at brainwashing work; even on kids.
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What does that have to do with anything?

OK, this is my observation having lived in Arkansas during the Clinton reign. Don't you think it odd that the wife of a new governor would not take his last name?



At the time she was the high earner in the family with an established career under her name. So it would seem more odd to me to switch.

I wouldn't be changing my name in a marriage and have no expectations of the same from the other person. But if it comes to that happening and kids, not sure what the plan is. I'll worry about it then.



A couple married goofs at my daughter's preschool gave their hyphenated last name to their kids. So if the kids adopt the same practice, after a couple more generations they'll have half a dozen last names all hyphenated together.

Needless to say they were a couple hair-shirt liberals and taking the hyphenated last name thing to that next level was just one more way for them to demonstrate that they were oh so sensitive to all the most important issue of the day.
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I wouldn't be changing my name in a marriage and have no expectations of the same from the other person. But if it comes to that happening and kids, not sure what the plan is. I'll worry about it then.



Our agreement is that if we have a boy, he gets Rich's last name. And if we have a girl, she gets my last name. I know that's sort of weird, but it's the best solution I could think of.

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One of my college professors & her husband decided to take the letters of their last names & make up a new last name altogether to give their child.

I would think it'd just be easier for a husband, wife & child to all have the same last name, but that's just my crazy thinking. I can be so nutty sometimes.
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Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school."

I could care less what his parents named him. But I'd bet the farm that being exposed to a Muslim school and environment affected him in some way.
Didn't all of our upbringing affect each of us????

Thanks for the ignorant jab. nice.



Sure - I went to schools where we had prayer, hymns and bible readings every morning, and "Divinity" lessons twice a week until age 18. It made me a far more effective atheist since I know more about the Bible than the majority of Christians
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I would think it'd just be easier for a husband, wife & child to all have the same last name, but that's just my crazy thinking.



Yes, it would make some things easier, but there seems to be no logical conclusion as to which partner should change their name. And some things are made more difficult when people change their names, such as trying to locate an old friend who may have changed her name when she got married.

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I was raised in southern churches with my grandmother. It's amazing what the effect of seeing someone flopping on the floor like a fish out of water babbling in "tongue" while a preacher is asking for money has on a young child




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but there seems to be no logical conclusion as to which partner should change their name.



Actually there is, but it's SO outdated.

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And some things are made more difficult when people change their names, such as trying to locate an old friend who may have changed her name when she got married.



Well, I suppose if you like want to be found way easier & stuff. Saves those who haven't talked to you in years from doing any leg work. Sweet!



Keep your last name. Change it to his or hers. Or make up a new one altogether and call yourselves the "Hullahoops". Whatever floats your boat.

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A couple married goofs at my daughter's preschool gave their hyphenated last name to their kids. So if the kids adopt the same practice, after a couple more generations they'll have half a dozen last names all hyphenated together.



I am not Hispanic, but this is my understanding of the naming convention.

Example: In Tampa, there was a man named Jose Martinez Y Bor. The "Y" is the Spanish "and" or hyphenation for a name.

They named a section of town for him that should have been called Bor City, but ended up called Ybor City because they didn't understand the convention.

The whole surname thing is only important in European cultures because of property rights. Some cultures trace their lineage through the mother (a lot easier and more accurate ;)). In some, the surname changes on every generation.

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but there seems to be no logical conclusion as to which partner should change their name.



Actually there is, but it's SO outdated.


What is the logical conclusion?

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Keep your last name. Change it to his or hers. Or make up a new one altogether and call yourselves the "Hullahoops". Whatever floats your boat.

:P



Yep... I'm just glad that I live in a time and place where I am free to choose whether to keep my name or change it. Hmm... and now that I think about it, The Artist Formerly Known as Keely might be a cool new name. :P

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I wouldn't be changing my name in a marriage and have no expectations of the same from the other person. But if it comes to that happening and kids, not sure what the plan is. I'll worry about it then.

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Our agreement is that if we have a boy, he gets Rich's last name. And if we have a girl, she gets my last name. I know that's sort of weird, but it's the best solution I could think of.

Who's last name do you have?

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