quade 4 #51 January 8, 2008 QuoteSurly our public is not ignorant enough to judge someone simply by the name they received at birth? Never underestimate the stupidity of some people.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #52 January 8, 2008 Quote>what about a woman that has no issue being cheated on in a VERY public >eye and doesn't cry, but is behind in the polls and THAT makes her cry ?? Sounds like she is more upset by her own failures than by the failures of others. I am the same way. I suspect most people are. Or, shows that power is (and has been) more important to her than her marriage.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #53 January 8, 2008 >Or, shows that power is (and has been) more important to her than her marriage. Or shows that she has already dealt with her personal life and did not let it affect her public life. I guess one's perception depends on how much one dislikes her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #54 January 8, 2008 Quote>Or, shows that power is (and has been) more important to her than her marriage. Or shows that she has already dealt with her personal life and did not let it affect her public life. I guess one's perception depends on how much one dislikes her. Seeing as how 'those issues' have been happening for pretty much the entire time they've been married, I think my viewpoint is valid.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #55 January 8, 2008 >Seeing as how 'those issues' have been happening for pretty much >the entire time they've been married . . . And what agreement did they come to about that? What was the resolution? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #56 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuote>Or, shows that power is (and has been) more important to her than her marriage. Or shows that she has already dealt with her personal life and did not let it affect her public life. I guess one's perception depends on how much one dislikes her. Seeing as how 'those issues' have been happening for pretty much the entire time they've been married, I think my viewpoint is valid. Here's a thought, maybe the act of sex isn't the most important thing in their marriage. Maybe she realizes it doesn't have to be the absolute defining thing in a lifelong partnership. Just speculation on my part.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #57 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuote>Or, shows that power is (and has been) more important to her than her marriage. Or shows that she has already dealt with her personal life and did not let it affect her public life. I guess one's perception depends on how much one dislikes her. Seeing as how 'those issues' have been happening for pretty much the entire time they've been married, I think my viewpoint is valid. Here's a thought, maybe the act of sex isn't the most important thing in their marriage. Maybe she realizes it doesn't have to be the absolute defining thing in a lifelong partnership. Just speculation on my part. I guess honesty and fidelity isn't very high on her list of issues either, then.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rickjump1 0 #58 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Exactly why i'd never vote for a woman. "TEARS UPON DEMAND" And what happens if her estrogen pills get fucked up. Look out. Maybe something like: "It's that time of the month boys; who can I blow up this time?" So many smart ass replies possible ... but mostly just makes me [sad] VR/Marg Sorry you are sad. Come up with a qualified and honest female candidate. It's a sad day in America that the Democratic Party can only come up with Hillary Clinton. With all her bullying and money, she has finally run out of ideas. Croc tears are just part of her MO. My 4 year old granddaughter is more convincing.Do your part for global warming: ban beans and hold all popcorn farts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #59 January 8, 2008 QuoteHeard it - IMO - it was a calculated stunt to try and garner more support no candidate will throw in the towel this soon and she's too manipulative to think this was anything other than a calculated manuver. I like Obama - but still convinced that his end goal will be to spend everyone's money in sight. Hopefully he'd be balanced by opposition in Congress (or if a R get pres, vice versa) Note to self: Begin hiding money now. I do like him, and think he is already almost a lock; barring some majot scandal. I think most everybody is just getting very tired of the same old shit. My only concern is for his safety. I think too many people on all sides of the race issue will despise his unwillingness to play that game." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #60 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Or, shows that power is (and has been) more important to her than her marriage. Or shows that she has already dealt with her personal life and did not let it affect her public life. I guess one's perception depends on how much one dislikes her. Seeing as how 'those issues' have been happening for pretty much the entire time they've been married, I think my viewpoint is valid. Here's a thought, maybe the act of sex isn't the most important thing in their marriage. Maybe she realizes it doesn't have to be the absolute defining thing in a lifelong partnership. Just speculation on my part. I guess honesty and fidelity isn't very high on her list of issues either, then. That's a pretty big assumption. The fact is what consenting adults do behind closed doors isn't anybody else's business. It's a great big wide world and it's really not yours nor anybody else's place to say what makes or breaks any relationship. I mean, if you want to you can, it's a free country and you can have your opinion, but it's all just a bullshit "moral" opinion.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #61 January 8, 2008 Quotewhat consenting adults do behind closed doors isn't anybody else's business. Tell that to the EEOC. If I bang my receptionist, I could get in some serious trouble. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #62 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuotewhat consenting adults do behind closed doors isn't anybody else's business. Tell that to the EEOC. If I bang my receptionist, I could get in some serious trouble. Depends! Context is the issue.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #63 January 8, 2008 QuoteShe has that Ted Kennedy profile. In the long-term, unelectable. In the short-term, she is political teflon. Nothing grimy will stick to her. Plus, she is willing to sell her soul. That makes her a financial rainmaker for the party. She'll be around for a long.... long time. Got that right. She put on a yamika (?) for the Jewish vote, put on a Yankees cap for the sports bar vote. She'll claim to be whatever gets her a vote. A total whore of a politician." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #64 January 8, 2008 QuoteA total whore of a politician. Uh huh . . . name one that isn't. This message has ben brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #65 January 8, 2008 Indeed. Context. Which is why it is not always some "bullshit moral opinion." If Bill and Hillary have nothing more than a business partnership, then let them be open about it. If Hillary is a lesbian, as Dick Morris suggested, let her be open about it. No problem from me. But "consenting adults behind closed doors" is not just a moral issue, anymore. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #66 January 8, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Couldn't agree more. Pure showmanship to get some sympathy and make her appear human and likable. The suckers on her forearms, pointy teeth and tiny horns really give it away, though. Even with her hooves covered by fashionable shoes. Exactly why i'd never vote for a woman. "TEARS UPON DEMAND" And what happens if her estrogen pills get fucked up. Look out. She'll have to spend a week at Camp David every month just to save everybody else the hassle of evacuating The white House. "What do you mean by ovary-action?!"" . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #67 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteBarack "Hussein" Obama I have noticed right wing media put a huge emphasis on the Hussein part of his name. I kept on thinking why do they keep on bringing it up. I am sure the public is not ignorant enough to think that so many years ago when his parents named him they were fans of Saddam. Surly our public is not ignorant enough to judge someone simply by the name they received at birth? Off course I have been wrong before. You have a inexperience black senator with the midlde name Hussein. When and if the country first elects a minority President, this isn't the winning formula. I expect to see his front runner status fade shortly. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #68 January 8, 2008 QuoteIf Bill and Hillary have nothing more than a business partnership, then let them be open about it. Why? Why would that be ANY of OUR business? How could that possibly affect OUR lives and what difference would it make? I mean, were YOU planning on fucking Hillary (or Bill)? Probably not. To me that is pretty much the only way it would make any difference whatsoever. Their sex life has absolutely nothing to do with me nor should it ever.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #69 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuotewhat consenting adults do behind closed doors isn't anybody else's business. Tell that to the EEOC. If I bang my receptionist, I could get in some serious trouble. Not if you're good and she wants more." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #70 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuote>Or, shows that power is (and has been) more important to her than her marriage. Or shows that she has already dealt with her personal life and did not let it affect her public life. I guess one's perception depends on how much one dislikes her. Seeing as how 'those issues' have been happening for pretty much the entire time they've been married, I think my viewpoint is valid. Here's a thought, maybe the act of sex isn't the most important thing in their marriage. Maybe she realizes it doesn't have to be the absolute defining thing in a lifelong partnership. Just speculation on my part. I guess honesty and fidelity isn't very high on her list of issues either, then. That's a pretty big assumption. The fact is what consenting adults do behind closed doors isn't anybody else's business. It's a great big wide world and it's really not yours nor anybody else's place to say what makes or breaks any relationship. I don't disagree with that at all. QuoteI mean, if you want to you can, it's a free country and you can have your opinion, but it's all just a bullshit "moral" opinion. Oh, that's right, I forgot - that whole silly "forsaking all others" bit just doesn't COUNT anymore - unless apparently, it's in regards to a Republican candidate...right?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pirana 0 #71 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteA total whore of a politician. Uh huh . . . name one that isn't. This message has ben brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department. Obama strikes me as a person who sticks to principles. For starters - Iraq. Against it from the beginning, and voted that way on day one. While Hillary and the bulk of the rest were worried about looking good (which meant looking patriotic for the breast-beating mouth-breathing masses) he voted on principle. Acting on principle for the longer vision is not usually good for many votes in the moment; but over time, people will recognize a person for the wisdom they posess. If Hillary has any wisdom, it hides beneath her mannequin-like veneer." . . . the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience." -- Aldous Huxley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AWL71 0 #72 January 8, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteA total whore of a politician. Uh huh . . . name one that isn't. This message has ben brought to you by the Department of Redundancy Department. Obama strikes me as a person who sticks to principles. For starters - Iraq. Against it from the beginning, and voted that way on day one. While Hillary and the bulk of the rest were worried about looking good (which meant looking patriotic for the breast-beating mouth-breathing masses) he voted on principle. Acting on principle for the longer vision is not usually good for many votes in the moment; but over time, people will recognize a person for the wisdom they posess. If Hillary has any wisdom, it hides beneath her mannequin-like veneer. But his principles include socialized medicine, tax increases for the middle class, and he is no supporter of the second amendment. No thanks.The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #73 January 8, 2008 Agreed.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #74 January 8, 2008 Quotehis principles include socialized medicine, tax increases for the middle class, and he is no supporter of the second amendment. Which is why he is refreshing. We don't suspect it. We don't reckon it. We KNOW it. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #75 January 8, 2008 Quotetoo close to the Muslim religion during his life for me... How do you figure that? Just by his name? That's pretty ignorant, since he had no influence on his own name. His Kenyan father and his American Mother were atheist. His Indonesian Step father was a secular Muslim His Maternal grand parents were non-practising protestant. His mother and stepfather sent him to two years of catholic School and two years of public school. I suggest expanding your news gathering routine to include more than just Fox News. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites