Amazon 7 #126 January 9, 2008 Personally... I think there should be a one strike and your out.... IF you use a gun in the commission of a crime... it should be a life sentence.. ESPECIALLY if its a stolen weapon. They are the predators who prey on the sheep.. we must protect the sheep from them.....woof Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #127 January 9, 2008 QuotePersonally... I think there should be a one strike and your out.... IF you use a gun in the commission of a crime... it should be a life sentence.. ESPECIALLY if its a stolen weapon. You mean you want to actually punish the criminals for the crimes they commit? Gosh, what a novel concept. All the gun-grabbers around here seem to be able to think of is to punish the innocent gun owner whose gun was stolen in a burglary... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #128 January 9, 2008 Quote All the gun-grabbers around here seem to be able to think of is to punish the innocent gun owner whose gun was stolen in a burglary... Well, if you 'register' the innocent gun owners, then it's much easier (and cheaper) to catch and imprison them, rather than the real criminal. It makes fiscal sense. (sometimes you're a bit stuffy on these, so note ===>>> ) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #129 January 9, 2008 QuotePersonally... I think there should be a one strike and your out.... IF you use a gun in the commission of a crime... it should be a life sentence.. ESPECIALLY if its a stolen weapon. They are the predators who prey on the sheep.. we must protect the sheep from them.....woof Sheep, sheepdogs and wolves I'm a sheepdogMike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #130 January 9, 2008 QuoteQuote Uh-huh. So you think that most of the 20,000 existing gun laws are worthless? That's what the gun enthusiasts around here are claiming when they bray "but criminals will always get guns". Are you now saying they're wrong? We keep pointing out the total lack of prosecutions related to Brady Bill violations. Have you a response to this? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #131 January 10, 2008 Another tidbit from mercurynews.com. Need a sign up so I will post and provide the link http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_7923480?nclick_check=1 Appeals court upholds gun ownership rights in San Francisco The Associated Press Article Launched: 01/09/2008 12:37:58 PM PST SAN FRANCISCO—A city ordinance banning handgun possession in San Francisco will stay off the books, after a state appeals court sides with gun owners and upholds a lower court's decision overturning the law. The Court of Appeal on Wednesday backed the National Rifle Association's argument that the city can't ban weapons because state law allows them. The ordinance was approved by voters in 2005, but has never been enforced because of the NRA's legal challenge. Justice Ignazio Ruvolo wrote in the unanimous decision that the city's arguments fail to "acknowledge that the ordinance will affect more than just criminals." He said it will also affect every resident who has not lost his or her right to possess a handgun."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #132 January 10, 2008 Well, that's a welcome step forward for Cali!!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #133 January 10, 2008 QuoteWell, that's a welcome step forward for Cali!! One has to wonder with all the opinions written latetly, WELL written, if some of the other courts are starting to pay attention. Add to that SC case coming soon..... well. We will have to watch"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #134 January 10, 2008 QuoteQuoteWell, that's a welcome step forward for Cali!! One has to wonder with all the opinions written latetly, WELL written, if some of the other courts are starting to pay attention. Add to that SC case coming soon..... well. We will have to watch That we will.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #135 January 10, 2008 this was a pretty trivial case for the CA courts to rule on, as it was a repeat of a prior attempt by SF to steal rights in 1982. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #136 January 10, 2008 Quotethis was a pretty trivial case for the CA courts to rule on, as it was a repeat of a prior attempt by SF to steal rights in 1982. It would seem to me it is a big deal given todays "living and breathing" constitution. And, the ruling was what, today?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
