Douva 0 #151 January 14, 2008 QuoteQuoteSince I don't want to be defenseless for the better part of a month How scared are you going to be during that month? "Shit your pants" scared or just "stay indoors at all times" scared? The first half of your profile name is starting to make a lot of sense.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #152 January 14, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteSince I don't want to be defenseless for the better part of a month How scared are you going to be during that month? "Shit your pants" scared or just "stay indoors at all times" scared? The first half of your profile name is starting to make a lot of sense. Actually I was trying to make a point, albeit facetiously I admit. If you don't feel scared during that month when you can't carry a concealed firearm - how will that affect your position? I imagine you won't allow it to affect your position in the slightest.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #153 January 14, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSince I don't want to be defenseless for the better part of a month How scared are you going to be during that month? "Shit your pants" scared or just "stay indoors at all times" scared? The first half of your profile name is starting to make a lot of sense. Actually I was trying to make a point, albeit facetiously I admit. If you don't feel scared during that month when you can't carry a concealed firearm - how will that affect your position? I imagine you won't allow it to affect your position in the slightest. Your facetious point mistakenly assumes that carrying a concealed handguns has something to do with feeling scared.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,147 #154 January 14, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSince I don't want to be defenseless for the better part of a month How scared are you going to be during that month? "Shit your pants" scared or just "stay indoors at all times" scared? The first half of your profile name is starting to make a lot of sense. Actually I was trying to make a point, albeit facetiously I admit. If you don't feel scared during that month when you can't carry a concealed firearm - how will that affect your position? I imagine you won't allow it to affect your position in the slightest. Your facetious point mistakenly assumes that carrying a concealed handguns has something to do with feeling scared. So why does it bother you that you can't have one for the better part of a month?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #155 January 14, 2008 QuoteI don't think it's invalid because there are enough cases of law abiding gun owners finding themselves suddenly non-law abiding. As simple as that - perhaps it's this potential that bothers people. There are plenty of non-gun owners who find themselves non-law abiding too, and have the potential to become non-law abiding. Guns are not a common denominator amongst law-breakers. Once again, law-abiding gun owners do not deserve your blame for criminal acts. Just as responsible alcohol drinkers do not deserve to be blamed for drunk driving fatalities. Do you want to make it illegal to have a glass of wine with dinner, because that person might have the potential to become a drunk driver? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #156 January 14, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSince I don't want to be defenseless for the better part of a month How scared are you going to be during that month? "Shit your pants" scared or just "stay indoors at all times" scared? The first half of your profile name is starting to make a lot of sense. Actually I was trying to make a point, albeit facetiously I admit. If you don't feel scared during that month when you can't carry a concealed firearm - how will that affect your position? I imagine you won't allow it to affect your position in the slightest. Your facetious point mistakenly assumes that carrying a concealed handguns has something to do with feeling scared. So why does it bother you that you can't have one for the better part of a month? Mmmkay, Kallend, did you click on the link I posted? I was making a joke at my own expense. Lighten up.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #157 January 16, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSince I don't want to be defenseless for the better part of a month How scared are you going to be during that month? "Shit your pants" scared or just "stay indoors at all times" scared? The first half of your profile name is starting to make a lot of sense. Actually I was trying to make a point, albeit facetiously I admit. If you don't feel scared during that month when you can't carry a concealed firearm - how will that affect your position? I imagine you won't allow it to affect your position in the slightest. Your facetious point mistakenly assumes that carrying a concealed handguns has something to do with feeling scared. So why does it bother you that you can't have one for the better part of a month? Mmmkay, Kallend, did you click on the link I posted? I was making a joke at my own expense. Lighten up. So, you do feel scared. Sucks to be you.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Douva 0 #158 January 16, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteSince I don't want to be defenseless for the better part of a month How scared are you going to be during that month? "Shit your pants" scared or just "stay indoors at all times" scared? The first half of your profile name is starting to make a lot of sense. Actually I was trying to make a point, albeit facetiously I admit. If you don't feel scared during that month when you can't carry a concealed firearm - how will that affect your position? I imagine you won't allow it to affect your position in the slightest. Your facetious point mistakenly assumes that carrying a concealed handguns has something to do with feeling scared. So why does it bother you that you can't have one for the better part of a month? Mmmkay, Kallend, did you click on the link I posted? I was making a joke at my own expense. Lighten up. So, you do feel scared. Sucks to be you. Grow up.I don't have an M.D. or a law degree. I have bachelor's in kicking ass and taking names. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #159 January 16, 2008 Stop asking the impossible, it will leave you feeling empty. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #160 January 16, 2008 QuoteStop asking the impossible, it will leave you feeling empty. The funny thing about those people are a couple things they don't realize or will never mention.... When the shit hits the fan, they'll do two things: 1. Call somebody with a gun 2. Pray they get there in time I get a real chuckle out of the 'living in fear' bit, as well... why should I be more afraid than the average person on the street? *I've* got an effective means of defense...they don't!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #161 January 16, 2008 Well they will try to say having a gun is a sign of fear, but then again when faced with dire circumstances, there you have it, they will call someone with a gun. Great observation!!! I think the fork sunk in deep that time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #162 January 16, 2008 Are you saying categorically that even 1% of the reason why you carry a concealed firearm is because you feel scared?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #163 January 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteI don't think it's invalid because there are enough cases of law abiding gun owners finding themselves suddenly non-law abiding. As simple as that - perhaps it's this potential that bothers people. There are plenty of non-gun owners who find themselves non-law abiding too, and have the potential to become non-law abiding. Guns are not a common denominator amongst law-breakers. Once again, law-abiding gun owners do not deserve your blame for criminal acts. Just as responsible alcohol drinkers do not deserve to be blamed for drunk driving fatalities. Do you want to make it illegal to have a glass of wine with dinner, because that person might have the potential to become a drunk driver? Did I say I blame law-abiding gun owners for criminal acts? That's neither here nor there regarding my issue. Of course it's not. So whilst you're logic concerning the legality of drinking wine with dinner, and the possible potential circumstances; in comparison with whatever it is your comparing it to might make simple common sense...it's not the particular area I'm trying to address. America has an undeniable problem with guns at the moment. Are you doing anything to help solve it like Nightingale with her work in homeland security? If so, what? 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #164 January 18, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI don't think it's invalid because there are enough cases of law abiding gun owners finding themselves suddenly non-law abiding. As simple as that - perhaps it's this potential that bothers people. There are plenty of non-gun owners who find themselves non-law abiding too, and have the potential to become non-law abiding. Guns are not a common denominator amongst law-breakers. Once again, law-abiding gun owners do not deserve your blame for criminal acts. Just as responsible alcohol drinkers do not deserve to be blamed for drunk driving fatalities. Do you want to make it illegal to have a glass of wine with dinner, because that person might have the potential to become a drunk driver? Did I say I blame law-abiding gun owners for criminal acts? That's neither here nor there regarding my issue. Of course it's not. So whilst you're logic concerning the legality of drinking wine with dinner, and the possible potential circumstances; in comparison with whatever it is your comparing it to might make simple common sense...it's not the particular area I'm trying to address. America has an undeniable problem with guns at the moment. I "deny" it sir. Your "perception" is flawed and I find it a bit arrogant Are you doing anything to help solve it like Nightingale with her work in homeland security?Again, there is nothing to solve. If so, what? While you do have a right to your opinions, to flatly say this is the case is bogus. You expect respect of your cutlure and laws and I sir, ask the same. Shheeesh"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #165 January 19, 2008 I'm sorry you're insulted. But how can you 'deny' the frequency of school shootings in America and then say it's not a problem? And that's just one example. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #166 January 19, 2008 QuoteAmerica has an undeniable problem with guns at the moment. Are you doing anything to help solve it like Nightingale with her work in homeland security? If so, what? Incorrent, and you're still operating on a false assumption. It is actually a problem with CRIME that has been steadily improving over the last decade or so.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #167 January 19, 2008 QuoteI'm sorry you're insulted. But how can you 'deny' the frequency of school shootings in America and then say it's not a problem? And that's just one example. Perhaps because neither you nor anyone else can prove that the availability of the gun triggered the crime. Does Rwanda have a "machete problem"?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #168 January 19, 2008 QuoteI'm sorry you're insulted. But how can you 'deny' the frequency of school shootings in America and then say it's not a problem? And that's just one example. See mnealtx's post below yours. Crime is the problem, guns are not. You are confusing the issue I believe. And I know many do not like the analolgy but cars or alcohol are not the problem when it comes to drunk driving. The drinker is. There is a common denominator in all crimes if one thinks about it"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vortexring 0 #169 January 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteI'm sorry you're insulted. But how can you 'deny' the frequency of school shootings in America and then say it's not a problem? And that's just one example. Perhaps because neither you nor anyone else can prove that the availability of the gun triggered the crime. Does Rwanda have a "machete problem"? Well, so what? I asked: 'But how can you 'deny' the frequency of school shootings in America and then say it's not a problem?' Rwanda has many cultural and social problems throughout its society and with it's neighbours. If we had the time we could individually look at them in detail. But at the moment we're generally concentrating on the issue of frequent school shootings in the USA. 'for it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "chuck 'im out, the brute!" But it's "saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #170 January 19, 2008 QuoteQuoteQuoteI'm sorry you're insulted. But how can you 'deny' the frequency of school shootings in America and then say it's not a problem? And that's just one example. Perhaps because neither you nor anyone else can prove that the availability of the gun triggered the crime. Does Rwanda have a "machete problem"? Well, so what? I asked: 'But how can you 'deny' the frequency of school shootings in America and then say it's not a problem?' Rwanda has many cultural and social problems throughout its society and with it's neighbours. If we had the time we could individually look at them in detail. But at the moment we're generally concentrating on the issue of frequent school shootings in the USA. Ok, so Rwanda had hundreds of thousands murdered by machetes and it's a cultural/social issues problem, but school shootings in the US is a gun problem. Just a *bit* of an inconsistency in your logic, don't you think? How about the school shootings in Branneburg, Freising, Erfurt, Emsdetten, and Cologne... were they due to gun problems, too, or is it just the US? BTW, I don't think anyone here has said that school shootings (or any other) "aren't a problem", except for a few anti's trying to score the "you don't care so long as you keep your guns" insult. The difference is that those of us that *do* own guns for self-defense realize that they don't have any magical power to make people walk down the street killing everyone they meet.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #171 January 19, 2008 Quote ........ How about the school shootings in Branneburg, Freising, Erfurt, Emsdetten, and Cologne... were they due to gun problems, too, or is it just the US? .... School shooting in Cologne? Not that I know of. It's my hometown. Any details available? It's quite easy to find details about school shooting "events" in Germany as there were so few ..... anyhow, not one in Cologe. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #172 January 19, 2008 My apologies - attempted shooting in Cologne.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
christelsabine 1 #173 January 19, 2008 No problem. Just a side note: In fact, not even an attempted one - 2 crazy teenager boys feeling like Rambo, dreaming of how to floor everybody, making silly plans which were tattled to teachers. After examination by police, one of that boys killed himself by trying to let a train derail with his body Poor little ones, they were watching too many movies, it seems. It never was a real plan, no weapons were involved. They never had access to weapons. dudeist skydiver # 3105 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
