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yesterday i went shooting with a group of guys and girls in there 20's and a couple things disturbed me.

i noticed that some of them weren't wearing earplugs and i asked why. they said they didn't need them because they were only shooting shotguns. when i was young, i was called a pussy if i used hearing protection. now i'm a pussy who can't hear very well and have constant ringing. at least they're only hurting themselves.

the more disturbing thing is that they didn't pick up their spent shells. i told them that they should pick up their shit and then i picked it up for them while they fucked around putting their guns away.

i grew up using mostly private land owned by timber companies that was open to the public. now most of that land is closed to the public because of littering, dumping, and vandalism. losing access to so much beautiful recreation land has made me really appreciate the public land that i do have access to. how the hell do you get naive twenty-somethings to respect the land a little more other than setting an example? i could be a raging dick to them or refuse to shoot with them, but the reality is that they'll go shooting without me and still not pick their shit up.


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Amen, what did you say?...my ears are ringing.

Oh well I did not get to use earplugs on a few occasions, but maybe I should have.

We wore them in training, but not in the field.

Things are different now, there are great hearing protection devices out that allow you to hear far more than without earplugs.

Ask any Veteran about that.

I would say ask Dan, but he may have to see your lips moving before he realizes you are speaking[:/]

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Yeah, and just because people are fucking deaf, like me, doesn't mean I don't have to use ear protection. I do. Those gun blasts will still fuck up the ear drum and middle ear. [:/]

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the more disturbing thing is that they didn't pick up their spent shells. i told them that they should pick up their shit and then i picked it up for them while they fucked around putting their guns away.

i grew up using mostly private land owned by timber companies that was open to the public. now most of that land is closed to the public because of littering, dumping, and vandalism. losing access to so much beautiful recreation land has made me really appreciate the public land that i do have access to. how the hell do you get naive twenty-somethings to respect the land a little more other than setting an example? i could be a raging dick to them or refuse to shoot with them, but the reality is that they'll go shooting without me and still not pick their shit up.



Our new society. People just don't give a fuck. They care about thier immediate gratification and anyone who reminds them of thier obligations, responsibilities or simply the importance of respecting others is accused of "getting thier panties in a bunch"
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yesterday i went shooting with a group of guys and girls in there 20's and a couple things disturbed me.

i noticed that some of them weren't wearing earplugs and i asked why. they said they didn't need them because they were only shooting shotguns. when i was young, i was called a pussy if i used hearing protection. now i'm a pussy who can't hear very well and have constant ringing. at least they're only hurting themselves.

the more disturbing thing is that they didn't pick up their spent shells. i told them that they should pick up their shit and then i picked it up for them while they fucked around putting their guns away.

i grew up using mostly private land owned by timber companies that was open to the public. now most of that land is closed to the public because of littering, dumping, and vandalism. losing access to so much beautiful recreation land has made me really appreciate the public land that i do have access to. how the hell do you get naive twenty-somethings to respect the land a little more other than setting an example? i could be a raging dick to them or refuse to shoot with them, but the reality is that they'll go shooting without me and still not pick their shit up.

Donno. Went to my outdoor range yesterday. I fired the 357 til I ran outta ammo then the 12 ga. til I ran outta ammo. The 22's til we ran outta ammo. I don't wear earplugs. Louder than fuck tho. What worried me most was the kids a couple yards to the right shooting skeet. My buds were walking checking targets while the kids were shooting.[:/]
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Another way to look at it, you are the company you keep. Quit shooting with them. When they invite you to shoot with them, say, "No thanks." When they ask why, tell them and explain.

If they care, they'll ask why and they might listen too.

However, what goes around comes around. It'll take someone to sh*t in their yard for them to understand.
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Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright
'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life
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Another way to look at it, you are the company you keep. Quit shooting with them. When they invite you to shoot with them, say, "No thanks." When they ask why, tell them and explain.

If they care, they'll ask why and they might listen too.

However, what goes around comes around. It'll take someone to sh*t in their yard for them to understand.



when i was in my lower twenties, i didn't give a fuck either, so i'm chalking it up to them just being young. if i don't shoot with them any more, nothing will change. i'm thinking that if i do shoot with them and set an example, maybe they'll eventually follow it. i just need to be able to slip in how much land i no longer have access to land because of misuse and how much it sucks without it sounding like a lecture.


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Were they at an actual outdoor range, or just private land? The range around here charges a deposit if you want to use shotguns, and if you pick up your shells, you get the deposit back. Otherwise, they keep it, and you've paid them to pick up. Either way, the range is clean at the end of the day. Personally, I pick up my own.

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it was blm land. i think idaho is about 2/3 public land, which means you can pretty much do whatever you want out there as there. if it was a range, i wouldn't be bothered as much.



Yeah... making a mess on public land and not cleaning up after yourself is really selfish.

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yesterday i went shooting with a group of guys and girls in there 20's and a couple things disturbed me.

i noticed that some of them weren't wearing earplugs...

the more disturbing thing is that they didn't pick up their spent shells...



Yep, it's the new "me" generation. They refuse to learn any lessons from the old-timers, and they care only about themselves. I saw hints of this in my granddaughters, ages 14 and 15, while canoeing with them over the xmas vacation. They don't give a second thought to throwing trash in the water, and when I give them a stern rebuke and make them pick it up, they giggle like it's some kind of cute joke. There is no respect for nature there.

I keep those cheap foam ear canal inserts in my gear bag, packaged in individual pairs. They cost almost nothing. If I see someone without ear protection, I throw 'em a pack and tell them they should use those. Even if they don't, they've now got the free pair, and they'll be thinking about using them in the future, since they've already got them.

One of my gun club ranges has a range safety officer on duty, and we keep a big box of those things in the locked equipment shed. If someone needs hearing protection, we go get them a pair.

As for the trash, yeah, that's a problem. I'm glad you picked up after them. You should have laid a guilt trip on them, and asked them to help out. There are lots of public lands that have been closed to shooting because assholes don't pick up their trash.

Oh, and like someone else said, dump those empty shells in the offenders front yards, and then see how much they like their trash laying around.

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What worried me most was the kids a couple yards to the right shooting skeet. My buds were walking checking targets while the kids were shooting.[:/]



When your shooting at a place without a formal safety officer, then someone needs to informally take charge of that situation. You just go over to the skeet shooters and tell them that you need to go downrange to check your targets, and ask them to make their guns safe, set them aside, and cease fire while you do so. Then when you're done, you thank them, and clear them to open fire again. It quickly becomes routine and everyone gets with the program.

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Indoor range a couple of weeks ago, the range officer asked a few young toughs to leave after repeatedly telling them to stop holding their handguns sideways and emptying the magazine in a burst.

Their targets were spotless! ;)

The 'ME' generation watches way too much TV! :D











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I always police all the brass folks just let laying around.

take it home and run it through the tumbler and bag it up. never know when that strange caliber can be used by someone that reloads

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Donno. Went to my outdoor range yesterday. I fired the 357 til I ran outta ammo then the 12 ga. til I ran outta ammo. The 22's til we ran outta ammo. I don't wear earplugs. Louder than fuck tho. What worried me most was the kids a couple yards to the right shooting skeet. My buds were walking checking targets while the kids were shooting.
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Come on man I know you know better than that, I'm 26 and have wore hearing than my 56 year old father, every time I've gotten in a big scrap happened to be one of the few times I wasn't wearing earpro, and i'm paying for it now.

It's not worth jacking up your hearing.

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(My buds were checking targets while the kids were still shooting[:/])

:oHoly shit. At our range there is a red flag at every stand. When you go down range you put that flag up an yell going down range. You don't just go waltzing on down, but you wait till it's clear then go. Nobody shoots when the flag is up and a body is down range checking targets. Jesus, thats just common sense.



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Our new society. People just don't give a fuck. They care about thier immediate gratification and anyone who reminds them of thier obligations, responsibilities or simply the importance of respecting others is accused of "getting thier panties in a bunch"



I bet every geenrations makes a similar statewment and has been doing thizs for thousands of years.
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