A thought on urban violence.

[ypelchat 0]

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/canada/story.html?id=203698

Not bad for a city of 550 000.



Yves.

[dannydan 5]

I am reading it now.... But until I get done with this story, I want to remind peeps of what a town did some 20yrs ago when they got wind of another town OUTLAWING firearms...

A lil town in north Illinois named Morton Grove did the banning of any and all firearms, Kennasaw Ga. did the opposite and their crime rate fell some 80%+ that next year and I think (i will chk) it has still not raised very much if any at all!!!!!!!

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Nice and cozy news! Maybe there is a utopia here on earth! I like the remark that said about the cops bragging that they have had a hand in the decline... But if the rate goes up.....

[Lindsey 0]

So what happened to Morton Grove?

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A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail

[warpedskydiver 0]

Crime unchanged basically, it is a small town and yet they have problems with hoodlums from Shitcago

[dannydan 5]

Our problems are probably coming from...

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....31st and Michigan on the south side of Chicago for 3 years, and have worked in the 'hood for 30 years

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[happythoughts 0]

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But those numbers are far from matching those of Canada's largest city. In Toronto, where the police have typically seen about 60 murders a year, the numbers have spiked for the first time in more than 20 years to 82 homicides so far in 2007. In more than half of those cases, guns were involved.

"In Toronto, there are a few things that can be linked to the increased violence, such as the drug trade and gang-related violence," explained criminologist Paul Whitehead.

Those elements usually "count big" in the murder rate of a city, stressed the University of Western Ontario professor.

The number of murders in the province of Quebec has dropped significantly since the end of the bikers' war -- that killed 160 people in the province, some of them innocent bystanders -- during the 1990s.

I think it is funny that the violence is linked to the drug trade and gang violence by everyone, but then it is pointed out that guns were involved.

Having the victims stabbed would probably not be any more pleasant for them.

Of course, there will always be criminals. It used to be alcohol, now it is drugs. It will be something else later.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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But those numbers are far from matching those of Canada's largest city. In Toronto, where the police have typically seen about 60 murders a year, the numbers have spiked for the first time in more than 20 years to 82 homicides so far in 2007. In more than half of those cases, guns were involved.

"In Toronto, there are a few things that can be linked to the increased violence, such as the drug trade and gang-related violence," explained criminologist Paul Whitehead.

Those elements usually "count big" in the murder rate of a city, stressed the University of Western Ontario professor.

The number of murders in the province of Quebec has dropped significantly since the end of the bikers' war -- that killed 160 people in the province, some of them innocent bystanders -- during the 1990s.

I think it is funny that the violence is linked to the drug trade and gang violence by everyone, but then it is pointed out that guns were involved.

Having the victims stabbed would probably not be any more pleasant for them.

Of course, there will always be criminals. It used to be alcohol, now it is drugs. It will be something else later.

The point is that until the last ten years or so guns really were a bit player in murder methods in Canada. As the role of organized crime rises in our murder statistics, so does the role of guns. Other than gangsters we rally don't use guns for much more than hunting.