warpedskydiver 0 #1 December 27, 2007 Benazir Bhutto Killed In Attack Updated:14:47, Thursday December 27, 2007 http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1298475,00.html Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto has died after a suicide attack at a political rally. She was shot in the chest and neck shortly after her speech in Rawalpindi. Ms Bhutto was attacked as she got into her car and the gunman then blew himself up. Benazir Bhutto at the rally"At 6.16 p.m. she expired," said Wasif Ali Khan, a member of Bhutto's party at Rawalpindi General Hospital. "She has been martyred," said party offical Rehman Malik. The explosion went off just after Ms Bhutto left the rally in Rawalpindi, minutes after her speech to thousands of people. Her supporters smashed windows and doors at the hospital where she was treated, some calling "Dog, Musharraf, dog,". It is the first major attack since President General Pervez Musharraf lifted emergency rule two weeks ago. About 20 people died in the attack in the heart of Pakistan's military and parliamentary district. Sky News correspondent Alex Crawford said the country's upcoming January elections would "most likely be postponed or cancelled" because of the attack. "The entire political scene in Pakistan will be torn apart. She will become a martyr in many people's eyes. About 20 people died in the blast"This is an end of a dream for them. "I really don't think she ever thought it would come to this" Rehman Malik, Bhutto's security advisor said: "We repeatedly informed the government to provide her proper security and appropriate equipment including jammers, but they paid no heed to our requests". Shabbas Sharif, the brother of former Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif's said: "I'm shellshocked. It's very bad for this country. Whoever has done this has done the biggest disservice to Pakistan." "The government must resign, Musharaf must go home, they must hold a very transparent enquiry into Benazir's killing." The US State Department condemned the killing, saying it undermines the reconciliation process. France described the assasination of Ms Bhutto as an "odious act". Defence and political analyst Ayesha Siddiqa said part of her undoing was "the fact that she thought she could negotiate with the military". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #2 December 27, 2007 clicky (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #3 December 27, 2007 There are reports that are saying she was shot in the neck AFTER the blast as she was escaping. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #4 December 27, 2007 Yet another sensless act of murder. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 December 27, 2007 This act will bring some major changes in Pakistan. She was loved by far too many people in her country.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #6 December 27, 2007 She was a dead woman walking from the instant she got off the plane on her return from exile. It was just a matter of time.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
micro 0 #7 December 27, 2007 QuoteShe was a dead woman walking from the instant she got off the plane on her return from exile. It was just a matter of time. Too true, unfortunately. We'll soon see what changes her "martyrdom" will effect... I miss Lee. And JP. And Chris. And... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #8 December 27, 2007 While I agree with Kallend that she was a dead woman the second she stepped back into the country . . . come on! . . . she was riding with her head outside the sunroof?!?quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #9 December 27, 2007 QuoteThe US State Department condemned the killing, saying it undermines the reconciliation process. Very nice diplomatic jargon. "Undermine" ? "Undermine" is when you disagree on some topics and find a way to stall the process for a while. Killing someone puts the brakes on a discussion with them and turns off the engine. "Undermine"... wtf? At my last job, there were 6 Indians and 1 Pakistani in a conference room working with me. They agreed on Britain. Disagreed on politics and soccer. When Bhutto returned, I asked the Pakistani guy what he thought. He is a quiet family guy with 3 kids, a masters degree, and a responsible job. He turned to me and said, in a very serious tone, "Politicians are liars and thieves and they should all be killed." The room got real quiet. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #10 December 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteShe was a dead woman walking from the instant she got off the plane on her return from exile. It was just a matter of time. Too true, unfortunately. We'll soon see what changes her "martyrdom" will effect... No doubt Al Qaeda will be blamed and it will be used as an excuse for more "War on Terror" restrictions. However, if we use the "follow the money" concept to see who benefits, the biggest beneficiary would seem to be Musharraf. Hard to see how AQ would benefit.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #11 December 27, 2007 Quote However, if we use the "follow the money" concept to see who benefits, the biggest beneficiary would seem to be Musharraf. Hard to see how AQ would benefit. Musharraf is very unpopular. Bhutto was very popular. AQ would rather have an unpopular president than a popular one. I really don't think it is all that clear cut who did this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #12 December 27, 2007 QuoteVery nice diplomatic jargon. "Undermine" ? "Undermine" is when you disagree on some topics and find a way to stall the process for a while. Killing someone puts the brakes on a discussion with them and turns off the engine. "Undermine"... wtf? Semantic point - why would you undermine something? To make it collapse. Seems to fit.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewGuy2005 53 #13 December 27, 2007 Quote No doubt Al Qaeda will be blamed and it will be used as an excuse for more "War on Terror" restrictions. However, if we use the "follow the money" concept to see who benefits, the biggest beneficiary would seem to be Musharraf. Hard to see how AQ would benefit. How long do you think it will take for the US to make this statement? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #14 December 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteShe was a dead woman walking from the instant she got off the plane on her return from exile. It was just a matter of time. Too true, unfortunately. We'll soon see what changes her "martyrdom" will effect... No doubt Al Qaeda will be blamed and it will be used as an excuse for more "War on Terror" restrictions. However, if we use the "follow the money" concept to see who benefits, the biggest beneficiary would seem to be Musharraf. Hard to see how AQ would benefit. Yeah, A.Q. has made it very clear the only thing they care about is money. I'm sure the fact Pakistan has nuclear weapons wouldn't be of any interest to A.Q. I'm equally sure they see no benefit in creating civil unrest in an attempt to blame and perhaps overthrow Musharaff and gain control of the nukes. Let's go follow the money instead of grasping the political/religious/societal implications. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #15 December 27, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteShe was a dead woman walking from the instant she got off the plane on her return from exile. It was just a matter of time. Too true, unfortunately. We'll soon see what changes her "martyrdom" will effect... No doubt Al Qaeda will be blamed and it will be used as an excuse for more "War on Terror" restrictions. However, if we use the "follow the money" concept to see who benefits, the biggest beneficiary would seem to be Musharraf. Hard to see how AQ would benefit. Yeah, A.Q. has made it very clear the only thing they care about is money. I'm sure the fact Pakistan has nuclear weapons wouldn't be of any interest to A.Q. I'm equally sure they see no benefit in creating civil unrest in an attempt to blame and perhaps overthrow Musharaff and gain control of the nukes. Let's go follow the money instead of grasping the political/religious/societal implications. What don't you understand about the word "concept"?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheAnvil 0 #16 December 27, 2007 This is really sad. Think what one may of the charges of corruption under her two different tenures, you have to admire her bravery for returning to Pakistan. Lots of possibilities over who was responsible. Vinny the Anvil Post Traumatic Didn't Make The Lakers Syndrome is REAL JACKASS POWER!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #17 December 27, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote She was a dead woman walking from the instant she got off the plane on her return from exile. It was just a matter of time. Too true, unfortunately. We'll soon see what changes her "martyrdom" will effect... No doubt Al Qaeda will be blamed and it will be used as an excuse for more "War on Terror" restrictions. However, if we use the "follow the money" concept to see who benefits, the biggest beneficiary would seem to be Musharraf. Hard to see how AQ would benefit. Yeah, A.Q. has made it very clear the only thing they care about is money. I'm sure the fact Pakistan has nuclear weapons wouldn't be of any interest to A.Q. I'm equally sure they see no benefit in creating civil unrest in an attempt to blame and perhaps overthrow Musharaff and gain control of the nukes. Let's go follow the money instead of grasping the political/religious/societal implications. What don't you understand about the word "concept"? Apparently, more than you. I simply offered a different "concept" than yours. BTW.. Happy Winter Solstice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #18 December 27, 2007 QuoteThis act will bring some major changes in Pakistan. She was loved by far too many people in her country.. She was also hated by just as many and many just saw her as another corupt self serving politician which she was. its a pity that she was assasinated it is not what the county needs but it was inevitable.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #19 December 27, 2007 Quote BTW.. Happy Winter Solstice. That was last week. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #20 December 27, 2007 Quote Quote BTW.. Happy Winter Solstice. That was last week. Sooooo...Next you'll be claiming Jesus was born on Dec. 25th? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #21 December 27, 2007 Quote Quote Quote BTW.. Happy Winter Solstice. That was last week. Sooooo...Next you'll be claiming Jesus was born on Dec. 25th? ?? The solstice was last week, and Jesus almost certainly wasn't born on Dec 25th.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #22 December 27, 2007 So why is it that when we don't like a candidate in our country, we just postwhore about it on the Internet, but in Pakistan, they shoot the candidate & blow themselves up? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #23 December 27, 2007 Dunno, ask a Taliban, or DU member. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #24 December 27, 2007 Quote So why is it that when we don't like a candidate in our country, we just postwhore about it on the Internet, but in Pakistan, they shoot the candidate & blow themselves up? Dude, if you insist on setting yourself up for it - which 1st world nation had 15 assassination attempts (2 successful) on sitting heads of state in the 20th century?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #25 December 27, 2007 Quote So why is it that when we don't like a candidate in our country, we just postwhore about it on the Internet, but in Pakistan, they shoot the candidate & blow themselves up? They didn't want to have televised debates for a year? The spread of the Taliban from Afghanistan to Pakistan was an easy transition. All of the refugee camps that existed in Pakistan were controlled by the Wahabist sect. There was no attempt at education, just religious study and loyalty to the the mullah. It is illegal to use drugs or alcohol under Sharia law. However, they don't seem to have a problem with growing it and selling it. Poor education, good financing and fanaticism. With enough time, the most violent group will kill off whoever tries to follow a rational process. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
