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Do you mark your race when asked on forms: example: job application, insurence company survey, school registration

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[waltappel 1]

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Do you mark your race when asked on forms: example: job application, insurence company survey, school registration

Yep--I think it's kinda stupid that they ask but yeah, I answer. I sometimes consider giving false answers but I haven't done that yet.

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[shermanator 4]

answer my own post, Nope, I don't answer. I think it is rediculous thing, it does not matter what my ethnic background is. they don't need to know.

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[Shell666 0]

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Do you mark your race when asked on forms: example: job application, insurence company survey, school registration

Ignorant Canadian on board here ... but I have to ask ...

Do they (meaning companies, insurance companies and schools) REALLY ask that question where you live???

I have NEVER had that question asked of me. Then again, I haven't applied for a job in 18 years (but I know that where *I* work it's not a question on our application form) .

I have had to fill out forms for insurance here and there and they have NEVER been asked that question. Marital status, yes, my birthdate, yes, but my RACE???

We have FOIPP here (Freedom of Information and Privacy Protection) and we can't ask ANYTHING about race, age, etc, when you "apply" for some things, especially a job. They can't (at least where I work) ask for your age or your birthdate. For loans, as far as I know, they can ask for your marital status but to ask for your RACE?

Is that the norm south of the border that they can ask that question??

If it is. Wow. I had no idea.

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[karenmeal 0]

It is really common. It's on most comprehensive sorts of forms that you fill out. Applications to schools.. that sort of thing.

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I sometimes consider giving false answers but I haven't done that yet.

What's true and what's false, anyway? I had a roommate in college that got half his tuition paid because he was 3/64 American Indian. The fact that he was more than 60% German contributed nothing to his finances If anyone ever asked him what his heritage was, he always replied "Native American", and he seriously believed it. He was the whitest, hairiest Native American I ever met

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We dont have a "race" thing per se but we often do have "Nationality" and for any government job citizenship details

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

Although in Canada on many gov forms they do have the 'optional' question as to whether you are native North American.

[Shell666 0]

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It is really common. It's on most comprehensive sorts of forms that you fill out. Applications to schools.. that sort of thing.

REALLY??? Wow.

I work at a University, in a student residence, and that is NOT a question we ask on our housing forms and, as far as I know, it isn't asked on their application to the University. Yes, the U will know what country you're applying from but your RACE isn't part of the equation.

So what is the question they ask about your race??? Do they ask if you're white, black, hispanic?

Seriously, I never knew that mattered.

'Shell

[Shell666 0]

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Although in Canada on many gov forms they do have the 'optional' question as to whether you are native North American.

But that only applies if you're a Treaty Indian and have your "card".

And apologies to anyone that thinks that the term "Indian" is derogatory. I work with a girl that likes to remind me that she's a "Treaty Indian" and she can buy stuff on the Reserve without paying any taxes. She's funny too.

'Shell

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We dont have a "race" thing per se but we often do have "Nationality" and for any government job citizenship details

We have that too. But we don't have a "race" box.

Strange to hear that some countries do.

'Shell

[monkycndo 0]

If there is an "other" option for race, next time check that box and write in "NASCAR".

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[Baksteen 84]

I refuse to answer that.

I'll take the job if they want me, because a man gotta eat, but if the colour of my skin is the only thing which distinguishes me from other, equally qualified, applicants, and the only reason that i get a job interview while they don't - I think I'd keep looking for a different job.

However, the Dutch paranoid "political correctness" or whatever is supposed to pass for that sometimes leads to really strange situations.

When i was applying for my very first job, I was asked to sign a form indicating that i agreed with the "Law Together, some equal opportunities act.
I carefully read the document, and signed it.
Then the true job interview started.
The interviewer was responsible among other things for the university's accomodations.
So I asked him whether I could be assigned a temporary university accomodation, since my current address was 200 km away - a travelling time of more than three hours. That way I could look for something else, and maybe even view a room or two afte work.
He gave me a disgusted look, and said: "I'm sorry, we only mediate in finding accomodations for foreign nationals."

So I said: "Riiiight... You know, that form you just had me sign? Could i maybe briefly have it back?"
When he handed it to me, I slowly tore up the form while looking at the guy.

I got the job anyway - the confirming email was in my inbox maybe one hour after the interview was concluded

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[popsjumper 2]

Yes, I mark it. How I mark it just depends.

Will I get money or some sort of special considerations if I list an ethnic group other than White/Caucasian? I'll go with that....whatever works.

I once told an potential employer that my great-great-great-great-great grandfather was Geronimo. She said, "That's a lot of 'greats'". I said, "We have a history of starting young."

I didn't get the job.

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Ahh I see that you are severly underqualified, but you are 1/54th native american you are hired. Shit I was born in America does that mean I am native to this country?

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Do you mark your race when asked on forms: example: job application, insurence company survey, school registration

I worked for the state of Nevada for 18 years. Everytime I was promoted or applied for another position within the state system I had to fill out the forms that asked that question.
Having been born in the US of A, I always marked the Native American box.
18 years.....nobody ever questioned it.

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[Thanatos340 1]

My Junior Year of College, I was still a Mass Comm Major. I would check the departmental Job Board every day looking for an internship. There would always be between 10 to 15 openings posted and 100% of them said "Female or Minority preferred". Eventually I just changed my major because I saw there was very little chance I could get my foot in the door in that field.

Very sad that in today’s world gender and/or race is still a criteria for consideration when applying for a job.

(Ok.. I just did the math.. That was 20 years ago.. Now I feel REALLY old)

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My Great Grandmother was Algonquin from Quebec, Great Grandfather was French from France, a landed immigrant in Quebec.

Still didn't help me get on the Canadian record in Burnaby.

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[Andy9o8 2]

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Do you mark your race when asked on forms: example: job application, insurence company survey, school registration

Until they have a box marked "Human", No.

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I just noticed your avatar. I'm curious - are there check-box options listed on the application to that organization?

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Ahh I see that you are severly underqualified, but you are 1/54th native american you are hired. Shit I was born in America does that mean I am native to this country?

According to most countries, Americans have no nationality. Being a nation of immigrants, they don't consider "American" as a nationality.

As for the race question, I just write-in "used to".

"T'was ever thus."

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Ahh I see that you are severly underqualified, but you are 1/54th native american you are hired. Shit I was born in America does that mean I am native to this country?

Gee...
My great grandmother on my mothers side was Seminole and I have never nor has anyone in our family ever seen fit to register as such even after it became rather shiek to do so.

The Old South has a real bad habit of quantifying anyone not totally lilly white as a racial minority. Think about all the fun names there are for any of the people of mixed race of black and white...quadroon, octoroon and, more rarely, quintroon and hexadecaroon.


The one drop rule is alive and well in some places.

What is really funny is that America is pretty much a nation of mutts....it is what makes us different than most of the countires of the world( even though a lot of them are mutts too based on who conqured who in the last 5000 years). Most of the white supremeacists usually forget that fact.. .... and many have some people in their family trees that make them part of what they loathe so much.

[Usetawuz 1]

One time, traveling to Japan for an international Track and Field event, I filled out a form that asked Race: ? I put: 220 and 440.

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[Gawain 0]

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Do you mark your race when asked on forms: example: job application, insurence company survey, school registration

Ignorant Canadian on board here ... but I have to ask ...

Do they (meaning companies, insurance companies and schools) REALLY ask that question where you live???

Yes, in the US, they do. The information is cataloged for purposes of EOE oversight. It's voluntary though, and in theory is not tracked for purposes of whether or not to hire etc.

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I have NEVER had that question asked of me. Then again, I haven't applied for a job in 18 years (but I know that where *I* work it's not a question on our application form) .

That is likely because Canada has a better way of dealing with the issue: by not asking the question in the first place.

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Is that the norm south of the border that they can ask that question??

If it is. Wow. I had no idea.

It is. It's not the hiring company's question though, it is reporting of demographic etc. A bunch of crap if you ask me.

Race is an issue in the US almost exclusively because people force-it-as-an-issue. I'm not saying racism doesn't exist here. It most certainly does, as it does everywhere. But a wound heals by treating it, and letting it heal, not by continuously opening it again.

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Ahh I see that you are severly underqualified, but you are 1/54th native american you are hired. Shit I was born in America does that mean I am native to this country?

Gee...
My great grandmother on my mothers side was Seminole and I have never nor has anyone in our family ever seen fit to register as such even after it became rather shiek to do so.

The Old South has a real bad habit of quantifying anyone not totally lilly white as a racial minority. Think about all the fun names there are for any of the people of mixed race of black and white...quadroon, octoroon and, more rarely, quintroon and hexadecaroon.


The one drop rule is alive and well in some places.

What is really funny is that America is pretty much a nation of mutts....it is what makes us different than most of the countires of the world( even though a lot of them are mutts too based on who conqured who in the last 5000 years). Most of the white supremeacists usually forget that fact.. .... and many have some people in their family trees that make them part of what they loathe so much.

No wonder I love BBQ!