jakee 1,596 #26 December 21, 2007 Quote No, not so much anymore And this has changed since 4 days ago, when you claimed I had no idea what your GW position was?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #27 December 21, 2007 Quote Quote No, not so much anymore And this has changed since 4 days ago, when you claimed I had no idea what your GW position was? Ok, to further this I will acept your premise. Ok, 4 days ago what was it? What has my position been? (it is changing but you are so smug) what was it? I sure the PMs may come in to keep you from looking stupid"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #28 December 21, 2007 QuoteOk, 4 days ago what was it? I'm thinking it was the same as it is now.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #29 December 21, 2007 Quote Quote Ok, 4 days ago what was it? I'm thinking it was the same as it is now. eeeeeeeeeeeeee WRONG! That has NOT been my point for some time now and I have stated as much. But I know the elitist in you procludes you from looking cause ...... ....... ....... ....... . ....... ....wait for it. ... ........ ... .. .. . . .. . . . .. . . . YOU THINK YOU ALREADY KNOW!!!!!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #30 December 21, 2007 QuoteThat has NOT been my point for some time now and I have stated as much. Like I say, you've stated that your position was fence sitting, but your posts have never demonstrated that. Never. So what happened between now and 4 days ago to cause this (supposed) shift in your position? (Remember, 4 days ago you said you thought Hansen was a loony just because you found out he still believes in man made GW)Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #31 December 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteThat has NOT been my point for some time now and I have stated as much. Like I say, you've stated that your position was fence sitting, but your posts have never demonstrated that. Never. So what happened between now and 4 days ago to cause this (supposed) shift in your position? (Remember, 4 days ago you said you thought Hansen was a loony just because you found out he still believes in man made GW) It's Friday. The original "Looking Glass Logic" day.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #32 December 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteThat has NOT been my point for some time now and I have stated as much. Like I say, you've stated that your position was fence sitting, but your posts have never demonstrated that. Never. So what happened between now and 4 days ago to cause this (supposed) shift in your position? (Remember, 4 days ago you said you thought Hansen was a loony just because you found out he still believes in man made GW) It's Friday. The original "Looking Glass Logic" day. You got that right. Lately I'm thinking it's like looking at an M.C. Escher version of a train of thought.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #33 December 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteThat has NOT been my point for some time now and I have stated as much. Like I say, you've stated that your position was fence sitting, but your posts have never demonstrated that. Never. So what happened between now and 4 days ago to cause this (supposed) shift in your position? (Remember, 4 days ago you said you thought Hansen was a loony just because you found out he still believes in man made GW) I have NEVER said I was sitting on the fense. Nice try again and 4 days ago has nothing to do with it. YOU used that number So, once again, what have I stated, directly on this site, my position and the part I was trying to debunk Come on, you know everything about anyone that does not agree with you."America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #34 December 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote That has NOT been my point for some time now and I have stated as much. Like I say, you've stated that your position was fence sitting, but your posts have never demonstrated that. Never. So what happened between now and 4 days ago to cause this (supposed) shift in your position? (Remember, 4 days ago you said you thought Hansen was a loony just because you found out he still believes in man made GW) It's Friday. The original "Looking Glass Logic" day. You know but you are just being an ass"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #35 December 21, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote That has NOT been my point for some time now and I have stated as much. Like I say, you've stated that your position was fence sitting, but your posts have never demonstrated that. Never. So what happened between now and 4 days ago to cause this (supposed) shift in your position? (Remember, 4 days ago you said you thought Hansen was a loony just because you found out he still believes in man made GW) It's Friday. The original "Looking Glass Logic" day. You got that right. Lately I'm thinking it's like looking at an M.C. Escher version of a train of thought. I will guess you are giving up"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #36 December 21, 2007 QuoteI have NEVER said I was sitting on the fense. So, saying you are undecided about the evidence and open to persuasion by both sides is not sitting on the fence? OK. QuoteNice try again and 4 days ago has nothing to do with it. YOU used that number ??? Yes I used that number, because 4 days ago you said that I didn't have a clue what your position on GW was. Well (follow this carefully) what I thought your position on GW was is the position that you have stated you hold in this thread. So, has your position changed in the last 4 days, or was I right about your position 4 days ago? If your position has changed in the last 4 days, what caused it to change? QuoteSo, once again, what have I stated, directly on this site, my position and the part I was trying to debunk I have no idea what that means. Is this more "pretending not to speak English to make a point"?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #37 December 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteI have NEVER said I was sitting on the fense. So, saying you are undecided about the evidence and open to persuasion by both sides is not sitting on the fence? OK. QuoteNice try again and 4 days ago has nothing to do with it. YOU used that number ??? Yes I used that number, because 4 days ago you said that I didn't have a clue what your position on GW was. Well (follow this carefully) what I thought your position on GW was is the position that you have stated you hold in this thread. So, has your position changed in the last 4 days, or was I right about your position 4 days ago? If your position has changed in the last 4 days, what caused it to change? QuoteSo, once again, what have I stated, directly on this site, my position and the part I was trying to debunk I have no idea what that means. Is this more "pretending not to speak English to make a point"? I am a skeptic. That is true. But, what has been my position. YOU indicate you know it. I have stated it. What is it? Can the question be any more clear?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #38 December 21, 2007 QuoteCan the question be any more clear? I have already stated what you used to claim your position was. I have already stated I simply don't believe you. Now what about my question? If your position was different 4 days ago, what changed it? And of course, on the subject of outstanding questions, Hansen.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #39 December 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteCan the question be any more clear? I have already stated what you used to claim your position was. I have already stated I simply don't believe you. Now what about my question? If your position was different 4 days ago, what changed it? And of course, on the subject of outstanding questions, Hansen. Come on man. 4 days ago means nothing. My position is one of a skeptic. I am still looking. there has been ONE MAIN POINT of my posts dealing with Global Warming. I have stated it many times. YOU SAY YOU KNOW MY POISITION, which is consistent with elitists position, WHAT IS THE POINT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE MR KNOW IT ALL!!!?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #40 December 21, 2007 How about a hint This thread, this one that I started, deals directly with my position. Does that help? I will tell you if you ask"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #41 December 21, 2007 QuoteCome on man. 4 days ago means nothing. Why not? You just said that your position has changed since 4 days ago. That's not nothing! What changed your position? And YET again, what about my questions? Who in the GW movement called Hansen a loony? Why did you call him a loony when you found out he didn't agree with you? Weren't you committing the very same sin you baselessly accused the GW movement of committing?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #42 December 21, 2007 Your post Quote And this has changed since 4 days ago, when you claimed I had no idea what your GW position was? I did not say anything about 4 days ago until you brought it up. I am tired of this so I will give up and tell you. While I have (in the last few years) been a skeptic, the part of the Global warming bs that has bugged me the most has been the "concensus" bull shit. billvon has many time brought this cop out agrogant positition up. I have posted many time that this is not science not to mention consensus is not science. So, since you choose to not ask I have told you. What next?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #43 December 21, 2007 QuoteI did not say anything about 4 days ago until you brought it up. I know you didn't! I know I was the one that brought it up! Thing is, I brought it up for a reason, and after I brought it up the conversation went like this... QuoteQuoteQuoteOk, 4 days ago what was it? I'm thinking it was the same as it is now. eeeeeeeeeeeeee WRONG! You see that? That's you (in the red), saying to me (in the blue), that your position on global warming is not the same as it was 4 days ago! That means that your position on global warming has changed since 4 days ago! So, what made your position change since 4 days ago?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #44 December 21, 2007 Quote Quote I did not say anything about 4 days ago until you brought it up. I know you didn't! I know I was the one that brought it up! Thing is, I brought it up for a reason, and after I brought it up the conversation went like this... Quote Quote Quote Ok, 4 days ago what was it? I'm thinking it was the same as it is now. eeeeeeeeeeeeee WRONG! You see that? That's you (in the red), saying to me (in the blue), that your position on global warming is not the same as it was 4 days ago! That means that your position on global warming has changed since 4 days ago! So, what made your position change since 4 days ago? no my position has not changed. 4 days means nothing"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #45 December 21, 2007 Quoteno No to what? No you didn't say it? No you didn't mean it? No you fucked up and were talking bollocks? What? And there's still the Hansen issue. Ever going to admit you lied about that?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #46 December 21, 2007 I added to the post. Sorry I was slow"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #47 December 21, 2007 Quoteno my position has not changed. 4 days means nothing Then what the fuck was this about? QuoteQuoteI'm thinking it was the same as it is now. eeeeeeeeeeeeee WRONG! If your position hasn't changed in the last 4 days, why the hell did you go "eeeeeeeeeeeeee WRONG" when I said that I didn't think your position had changed in the last 4 days? What on earth did you think you were saying? Do you pay any attention at all to what you read or write?Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #48 December 21, 2007 QuoteQuoteno my position has not changed. 4 days means nothing Then what the fuck was this about? QuoteQuoteI'm thinking it was the same as it is now. eeeeeeeeeeeeee WRONG! If you're position hasn't changed in the last 4 days, why the hell did you go "eeeeeeeeeeeeee WRONG" when I said that I didn't thinnk your position had changed in the last 4 days? What on earth did you think you were saying? Do you pay any attention at all to what you read or write? I will try and help you undersand where you are wrong. Did you know that my main position was that a consensus does NOT exist when it comes to the topic of global warming? If not, you were wrong about my stateed position in this site. Am I a skeptic? Yes, I have stated that too. Has my position changed in the last 4 days? I dont think so!"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #49 December 21, 2007 QuoteI will try and help you undersand where you are wrong. Can you still not see it? I said that I thought that your position had not changed in the last 4 days, you said that I was wrong about that. That's it, end of story. If you're going to go adding vast amounts of assumed, unwritten background context into simple answers of simple questions then no-one is ever going to know what the fuck you're talking about. QuoteDid you know that my main position was that a consensus does NOT exist when it comes to the topic of global warming? "2007 will be known as being the year of the begining of the end of the global warming (the man made type) hype in my opinion." Put the two together, that's your position, same as I always thought it as, same as you always used to try to deny it. QuoteHas my position changed in the last 4 days? I dont think so! Then, one more time, why the fuck did you say I was wrong when I said that? Communication skills - get some!Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #50 December 21, 2007 waste of time. You did not know my position. Dam simple dont you thinkYou think that because I told you I am a skeptic you got it right? Not the point, but I am not surprised you skip that specific point. Now, back on topic. What do you think of this report?"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
