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U.S. Senate Report: Over 400 Prominent Scientists Disputed Man-Made Global Warming Claims in 2007

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One part of note in this info

A peer-reviewed study by a team of scientists found that "warming is naturally caused and shows no human influence." (LINK) – Another November 2007 peer-reviewed study in the journal Physical Geography found “Long-term climate change is driven by solar insolation changes.” (LINK ) These recent studies were in addition to the abundance of peer-reviewed studies earlier in 2007. - See "New Peer-Reviewed Scientific Studies Chill Global Warming Fears" (LINK )
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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That has not been the point I dispute and, he, as many others have, buckled to the political pressure which is what I believe this is all about.

Now, you might want to take some time to READ it:|

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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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That has not been the point I dispute and, he, as many others have, buckle to the polictical pressure which is what I believe this is all about.

Now, you might want to take some time to READ it:|


So, you think the president is a pansy?


Ya, in many ways and on some topics I do
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I don't know whether any climate change that may be occurring is caused by people but I do know that even if the future follows even the most severe projections of man-made global warming those changes are small and almost insignificant when compared to the changes that have occurred by natural causes in Earth's history even as recently as within the last 50,000 years.
Humans are newcomers to the planet. Any impact we have on Mother Earth will be shrugged off much the same as a dog scratches a flea.

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I don't know whether any climate change that may be occurring is caused by people but I do know that even if the future follows even the most severe projections of man-made global warming those changes are small and almost insignificant when compared to the changes that have occurred by natural causes in Earth's history even as recently as within the last 50,000 years.
Humans are newcomers to the planet. Any impact we have on Mother Earth will be shrugged off much the same as a dog scratches a flea.



I tend to agree.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Complete Report Now Available without introduction

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.SenateReport



How dare you attack the "GW Religion">:(

Oh, by the way I hope you and your family have a wonderful Christmas:)


ME?:o

:D:D
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it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Another Oregon Petition! One wonders if this one will be as grossly exaggerated as that one was.

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SciAm on the Oregon Petition:

"Scientific American took a sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition —- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers – a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community."

Hawaii Reporter:

"In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names (Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name (Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency?"

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Another Oregon Petition! One wonders if this one will be as grossly exaggerated as that one was.




:D:D

2007 will be known as being the year of the begining of the end of the global warming (the man made type) hype in my opinion. time will tell.

I await your discrediting of all those in this report:D
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if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Ah yes. I am sure that statement will be as accurate as "there's only one problem with global warming - it stopped in 1998!"




Ya, I may have wrong with that one (even though I did not say it, but I understand your tactic) seeing how it now appears that it may never have started in the first place:o Man made of course!:D

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"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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You must not have even took a peek before you posted this. The names, following a copy from your post, took about 30 secs to find. I see names, universities, work and degrees.

Want to reconsider?

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Hawaii Reporter:

"In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names (Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name (Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency?"


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Renowned agricultural scientist Dr. Norman Borlaug, known as the father of the "Green Revolution" for saving over a billion people from starvation by utilizing pioneering high yield farming techniques, is one of only five people in history who has been awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom ,and the Congressional Gold Medal. Borlaug

Astronomer Dr. Jeff Zweerink of the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA) studies gamma rays, black holes, and neutron stars and has declared himself a skeptic of man-made climate fears

Particle Physicist Jasper Kirkby, a research scientist at CERN, the European Organization for Nuclear Research, believes his research will reveal that the sun and cosmic rays are a "part of the climate-change cocktail."

Solar physicists Galina Mashnich and Vladimir Bashkirtsev, of the Institute of Solar-Terrestrial Physics of the Siberian Division of the Russian Academy of Sciences, believe the climate is driven by the sun and predict global cooling will soon occur.

Physics Professor Emeritus Dr. Howard Hayden of the University of Connecticut and author of "The Solar Fraud: Why Solar Energy Won't Run the World," debunked fears of a man-made climate disaster during a presentation in April.

Renowned Astronomer Sir Patrick Moore, a fellow of the UK's Royal Astronomical Society, host of the BBC's Sky at Night program since 1957 and author of over 60 books on astronomy called global warming concern ‘rubbish' in an interview with The Sun in 2005. "I think it's a lot of rubbish!

Renowned agricultural scientist Dr. Norman Borlaug, known as the father of the "Green Revolution" for saving over a billion people from starvation by utilizing pioneering high yield farming techniques, is one of only five people in history who has been awarded a Nobel Peace Prize, the Presidential Medal of Freedom ,and the Congressional Gold Medal. Borlaug also declared himself skeptical of man-made climate fears in 2007. "I do believe we are in a period where, no question, the temperatures are going up.
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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kallend has posted how the Bush Admin tried to silence NASA GWing alarmists in thier ranks. That claim was for the most part debunked. Being such a supporter of those being threatened by the Gov one would have thought he would have posted this!!!!


EPA Chief Vows to Probe E-mail Threatening to ‘Destroy’ Career of Climate Skeptic



http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=04373015-802A-23AD-4BF9-C3F02278F4CF
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Another Oregon Petition! One wonders if this one will be as grossly exaggerated as that one was.

======================
SciAm on the Oregon Petition:

"Scientific American took a sample of 30 of the 1,400 signatories claiming to hold a Ph.D. in a climate-related science. Of the 26 we were able to identify in various databases, 11 said they still agreed with the petition —- one was an active climate researcher, two others had relevant expertise, and eight signed based on an informal evaluation. Six said they would not sign the petition today, three did not remember any such petition, one had died, and five did not answer repeated messages. Crudely extrapolating, the petition supporters include a core of about 200 climate researchers – a respectable number, though rather a small fraction of the climatological community."

Hawaii Reporter:

"In less than 10 minutes of casual scanning, I found duplicate names (Did two Joe R. Eaglemans and two David Tompkins sign the petition, or were some individuals counted twice?), single names without even an initial (Biolchini), corporate names (Graybeal & Sayre, Inc. How does a business sign a petition?), and an apparently phony single name (Redwine, Ph.D.). These examples underscore a major weakness of the list: there is no way to check the authenticity of the names. Names are given, but no identifying information (e.g., institutional affiliation) is provided. Why the lack of transparency?"

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Are you talking about global warming or the 2000 elections?!
"T'was ever thus."

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Another Oregon Petition! One wonders if this one will be as grossly exaggerated as that one was.

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Still appear that way now?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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Inhofe again:D:D:D

Oregon Institute, Inhofe... why can't you find a CREDIBLE source for your junk?
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Any impact we have on Mother Earth will be shrugged off much the same as a dog scratches a flea.



I tend to agree.



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2007 will be known as being the year of the begining of the end of the global warming (the man made type) hype in my opinion.



So you're still claiming to be sitting on the fence concerning global warming, are you?
Do you want to have an ideagasm?

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Inhofe again:D:D:D

Oregon Institute, Inhofe... why can't you find a CREDIBLE source for your junk?


Who do you consider credible? Agreeing with you doesn't make anyone any more credible than not agreeing with you lessens their credibility. Maybe you could list several reasons why you feel Oregon is not credible.

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Any impact we have on Mother Earth will be shrugged off much the same as a dog scratches a flea.



I tend to agree.



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2007 will be known as being the year of the begining of the end of the global warming (the man made type) hype in my opinion.



So you're still claiming to be sitting on the fence concerning global warming, are you?



No, not so much anymore
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Inhofe again:D:D:D

Oregon Institute, Inhofe... why can't you find a CREDIBLE source for your junk?


:D

Ahh, cant refute the report I see.

thanks for your support:)
"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
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