Amazon 7 #1 December 20, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bB9sKzZVcuE Hear Ye Hear ye.. calling all patriots. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #2 December 20, 2007 Very enlightening. Now, which demographic is most sought after by liberal politicians? If you believe that guy, the expression," Who yo baby daddy" shouldn't exist. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #3 December 20, 2007 Hell I was going to post this in Bonfire in the SPEARS thread but did not want to get banned yet again.... the new guy is a tad too eager.... since this had political overtones.... Face it.. those of you in the right wing want to keep em dumb with stupidity like abstinence... and what you end up with is 1 in 13 teen girls gets pregnant... they need birth control.. not abstinence.. that has not worked.. for what... how many thousands of years???? That would cut down on the issue you were trying to slam me on..... I personally find abortions horrible... but its better to make them RARE with education.. than taking away a womans right to choose when to have a child. You guys seem to support the age old.... if I can get her pregnant then I have passed on my genes.. well that worked for the cavemen and barbarians and many other groups of men who found rape a means to an end... to get their rocks off and their genes passed on...but hopefully that does not work in this modern world no matter how many would yearn for those simpler daysForced pregnancy to further YOUR rights.as a man. is repugnant...... Educate the young people and provide VIABLE birth control.. and a hell of a lot of abortions would cease and that would be a step in the right direction to having children that are wanted and loved.. instead of them being an accident Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #4 December 20, 2007 I agree with much of what you say, but the man in the video was deriding conservatives. the fact is that liberals push for birth control for teens and sex education. Yet, the black demographic, which they consider their honey pot, when it comes to votes, is rampant with teenage pregnancies. While liberals were issuing condoms, conservatives weren't issuing earplugs. Who dropped the ball? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 December 20, 2007 That is one thing that totally pisses me off in that demographic.. alot of the c-RAP talks about that shit.. rape.. and ho's.....better to educate them so they can pull themselves up.. instead of giving out handouts for havin a whole bunch of kids.. and by the way.. the republicans have been trying very hard to capture that demographic.... look at every election cycle when they roll out every possible big tent Uncle Tom black republicanOf course he was deriding conservatives.... they are the idiots who support the abstinence insanity...and prefer to keep their young women dumb as dirt when it comes to their own bodies.. EASIER to control that way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #6 December 20, 2007 Quote Of course he was deriding conservatives.... they are the idiots who support the abstinence insanity...and prefer to keep their young women dumb as dirt when it comes to their own bodies.. EASIER to control that way Are you sure that it's not a conservative conspiracy to push birth control on the liberals so that they will simply unbreed themselves out of existance? God, what a plan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dannydan 5 #7 December 20, 2007 cant educate the ones that dont want to be educated.... :DD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 December 20, 2007 You can lead a person to the well of knowledge but you can't make them think. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #9 December 20, 2007 Quote ook at every election cycle when they roll out every possible big tent Uncle Tom black republican How deliciously asinine.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #10 December 20, 2007 I poop too much.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #11 December 20, 2007 I would hazard a guess.... from both ends (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #12 December 20, 2007 Reply To -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ook at every election cycle when they roll out every possible big tent Uncle Tom black republican -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteHow deliciously asinine. I think that she was referring to those self motivated individuals who don't throw down the race card every time that a little adversity comes their way. JC Watts, Lynn Swann, Condi to name a few. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PLFXpert 0 #13 December 20, 2007 Paint me in a corner, but my color comes back. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airdweller 0 #14 December 20, 2007 ook at every election cycle when they roll out every possible big tent Uncle Tom black republican -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How deliciously asinine. __________________________________ Amazon's comment does seem to suggest that she has never read the book to which she is referring.------------------------------------------------------ "From the mightiest pharaoh to the lowliest peasant, who doesn't enjoy a good sit?" C. Montgomery Burns Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #15 December 20, 2007 Quote cant educate the ones that dont want to be educated.... :DD You can remove the incentives to remain stupid and not work for a living. Paying women to have children is sheer stupidity.. it also destroys any form of family structure. If you want a whole litter of children... YOU need to pay for them... not taxpayers. Tax incentives for having more than 2 children also needs to be eliminated... you want a big family.. YOU pay for it... if you cant pay for keeping it in your pants... then so sad too badOne way to stop the stupidity is to proved GOOD schools. Teachers who can teach would be a good start.. If you actually PAY people to teach you would get more incentive to get people into it that want to do something more than get a minimum wage baby sitting jobIf you have students who do not learn in a standard academic environment..on an academic path to college... remove them and put them into a vocational track that will lead them to a job. I know there are others... trouble makers etc... that will need something else to motivate them. But if we can actually show those who have an educational chip on their shoulder.. and rid them of the attitude that an education is for sell outs.. or those who are anti-education and revel in being dumb as dirt etc.. perhaps we can actually make an education system that will work for far more of the lower class of this country. It would be far better to have productive citizens.. than the large prison population that is directly attributable to being stupid with no hope of ever getting a real job. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #16 December 20, 2007 Well, said, Jeanne... I would add the sense of entitlement that so many display to your list, but it certainly stands well enough on it's own!Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #17 December 20, 2007 OMFG..... We agreed on something again..I basically come from a place that education is the best war to fight ignorance.. remove the ignorance and you remove a myriad of problems from our society.. you remove a majority cause of having such a large prison population. I would rather put the violent and predatory there than stupid people who want a short cut to their flawed view of the American Dream. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
diablopilot 2 #18 December 20, 2007 Hippies were more credible before they started trying to use technology. ---------------------------------------------- You're not as good as you think you are. Seriously. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #19 December 20, 2007 QuoteOne way to stop the stupidity is to proved GOOD schools. Teachers who can teach would be a good start.. If you actually PAY people to teach you would get more incentive to get people into it that want to do something more than get a minimum wage baby sitting job What a concept! Pay teachers well......Oh, I wish."safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #20 December 20, 2007 QuoteQuoteOne way to stop the stupidity is to proved GOOD schools. Teachers who can teach would be a good start.. If you actually PAY people to teach you would get more incentive to get people into it that want to do something more than get a minimum wage baby sitting job What a concept! Pay teachers well......Oh, I wish. ...and let them do their job instead of 'preparing' for State Mandated tests! I know of teachers who buy school supplies for their classes and dig deep in their pockets for lunch money for some kids. Teachers who give kids a ride to and from school. We, here in Texas were fooled into believing that if, we had a 'State Lottery', big bucks could be spent on schools and highways! Why then, are schools closing in the state and teachers salaries don't increase and our highways are the worst they've ever been? All lotteries have done is give a lot of folks false hopes and a gambling addiction! Yet, the government has big money to spend on the sex life of some bug and bike trails. No wonder we lag behind the rest of the world in education. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #21 December 20, 2007 Quote...and let them do their job instead of 'preparing' for State Mandated tests! ....which prepares the students to take tests, not thnk."safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #22 December 20, 2007 QuoteQuote...and let them do their job instead of 'preparing' for State Mandated tests! ....which prepares the students to take tests, not thnk. ...and that is just sad! The teachers, in conjunction with parents could get the kids sex education like Amazon suggested rather than the kids learning it among their peers. There was a recent vote in a larger 'oil town' not far from here. The idea was to get kids the right education in regard to sex... it got voted down! I wonder sometimes if a lot of parents are just too interested in their careers and making more money than they are in their kids? I know, it takes money to raise kids but... just how much? I don't believe, it's 'all about kids' but, they at least, deserve a fair shake in life. Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
grannyinthesky 0 #23 December 20, 2007 Quote...and that is just sad! The teachers, in conjunction with parents could get the kids sex education like Amazon suggested rather than the kids learning it among their peers. There was a recent vote in a larger 'oil town' not far from here. The idea was to get kids the right education in regard to sex... it got voted down! I wonder sometimes if a lot of parents are just too interested in their careers and making more money than they are in their kids? I know, it takes money to raise kids but... just how much? I don't believe, it's 'all about kids' but, they at least, deserve a fair shake in life. I find it pretty much incomprehensible that people really think that giving kids a realistic sexual education is going to warp their minds and corrupt them. Simple fact---sex feels good and kids are going to find out one way or another---I believe we have a responsibility to give them options that work, not just preach abstinance."safety first... and What the hell..... safety second, Too!!! " ~~jmy POPS #10490 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #24 December 20, 2007 Quote Quote ...and that is just sad! The teachers, in conjunction with parents could get the kids sex education like Amazon suggested rather than the kids learning it among their peers. There was a recent vote in a larger 'oil town' not far from here. The idea was to get kids the right education in regard to sex... it got voted down! I wonder sometimes if a lot of parents are just too interested in their careers and making more money than they are in their kids? I know, it takes money to raise kids but... just how much? I don't believe, it's 'all about kids' but, they at least, deserve a fair shake in life. I find it pretty much incomprehensible that people really think that giving kids a realistic sexual education is going to warp their minds and corrupt them. Simple fact---sex feels good and kids are going to find out one way or another---I believe we have a responsibility to give them options that work, not just preach abstinance. Telling a teenager, with rampant hormones to 'abstain from sex' is absolutely stupid! Is the attitude with parents that 'children shouldn't hear such things'? My folks educated me, when I was a teenager about sex. If, they didn't have the answers, they got the answers and then, told me. My dad even told me about the movies the Navy showed him! Parents need to step-up and be parents and quit leaving it to someone else to raise their kids. I've known some single moms who have 'stepped-up' and raised some real good kids to real good adults. It really is possible! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #25 December 21, 2007 QuoteQuote...and let them do their job instead of 'preparing' for State Mandated tests! ....which prepares the students to take tests, not thnk. Agreed - and can we get back to an ACTUAL curriculum, please???Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
