Let's ban all private aviaton unless there can be a neccessity shown

[warpedskydiver 0]

Hey I don't believe we should, but in the antigun rantings of some posters, they seek to remove a right that is enumerated in the Bill of Rights.

However, if there were to be a ban of private aircraft usage, someone might get his panties in a wad over it.

The enviornment is being polluted by wealthy people taking joy rides in a privately owned plane, why should this be allowed?

There are laws against automobiles polluting, laws against not carpooling in certain lanes on the roads, so why not outlaw private aircraft?

Ban the planes, it's for the sake of the planet we leave our children.

Why should the priveledged few, dictate that we should not be allowed to have certain firearms, or any at all?

they fly themsleves around, over our homes, polluting, and being an accident waiting to happen?

They have no right to fly, it is not in the Constitution, so BAN THEM.

Lets see how this dscussion turns out.

[SpeedRacer 1]

Lets ban farting : it is a greenhouse gas.

Or maybe we could just put restrictions on the amount of "emissions" per day.

Kind of like a Kyoto Treaty for your asshole.

Speed Racer
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[ryoder 1,590]

Trying to bait Kallend, eh?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[warpedskydiver 0]

Hey, take a few pain pills and it all starts making sense.

[rushmc 23]

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Hey, take a few pain pills and it all starts making sense.

or 6 to 10 Negra Modelo's

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rhys 0]

you are confusing two separate issues.

Pollution and violence are completely separate and needn' be confused.

Hand guns are stupid and pointless unless you want to maim or kill someone or something and general aviation brings joy to many.

Shooting guns brings joy too but only to violent people, violence is not something that needs to be encouraged.

befroe you bag me think about it a little.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[Rookie120 0]

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Hand guns are stupid and pointless unless you want to maim or kill someone or something

I have plenty of handguns and none of them have killed anyone. So why are they so dangerous?



and general aviation brings joy to many.

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And death! Do you need me to pull up how many deaths a year are in GA?

Shooting guns brings joy too but only to violent people,

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Where the hell did you get that info from?

violence is not something that needs to be encouraged.

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How are my hand guns encouraging violence?

befroe you bag me think about it a little.
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I did think about it! I think it's bullshit.

If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck!

[GQ_jumper 4]

Hand guns are stupid and pointless unless you want to maim or kill someone or something and general aviation brings joy to many.

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Airplanes that come under control of the wrong person can kill quite a few people, just as handguns can, but both in the right hands do no harm so long as they are properly handled. Just owning a handgun doesn't make you violent, and using them for recreational purposes in a responsible manner does far less to damage the environment that flying a plane recreationally does.

History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid.
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[rushmc 23]

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you are confusing two separate issues.

Pollution and violence are completely separate and needn' be confused.

Hand guns are stupid and pointless unless you want to maim or kill someone or something and general aviation brings joy to many.YASFOS. I love the chalenge of hitting a target with a handgun. The BEST one I ever had was a Browning Hi power in a 45 ACP. That thing could put a group together at a greater distance than any I had ever owned!!!!! I sold it to get a new rig. (mixed emotions about that)

Shooting guns brings joy too but only to violent people, violence is not something that needs to be encouraged.Well there it is then. Why would anyone want to argue with this experts expert educated opinion. Hell, I am convinced!! Anybody else?

befroe you bag me think about it a little.

If I think about it too much longer I may get myself banned from this site

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[ryoder 1,590]

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Hand guns are stupid and pointless unless you want to maim or kill someone or something ...

So what is your solution if someone, (or something), is trying to maim or kill you?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rhys 0]

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How are my hand guns encouraging violence?

Hand guns are desined to kill people.

If you bought one you obviously think there could be a reason for you to kill someone.

otherwise why do you own one?

what use is there for a handgun other than killing someong or doing target practice (so you can kill someone if you need to?)

Hand guns = Violence. period

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[rhys 0]

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Just owning a handgun doesn't make you violent, and using them for recreational purposes in a responsible manner does far less to damage the environment that flying a plane recreationally does.

you are confused again.

If you buy a handgun and only intend on going to a range and practicing is like buying an aircraft and and only ever using a flight simulator.

What positives come out of shooting your gun?

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[rushmc 23]

Hand gus = Violence. period

You dont have to buy a hand gus then if you dont want to but, dont pretend you know all people intentions.

Leave my hand gus alone



Look at me, I am giving someone crap about spelling

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rhys 0]

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. I love the chalenge of hitting a target with a handgun. The BEST one I ever had was a Browning Hi power in a 45 ACP. That thing could put a group together at a greater distance than any I had ever owned!!!!!

So you don't see the connection with practicing by shooting a target and killing something.

I might as well leave it there because you guys are obviously going to 'stick to your guns' but this stupid violent mentality is part of the reason US citiziens can be less than welcome in many places around the world.

I feel sorry for Canadians and good natured US citizens that get thrown into the same genre as the knuckle head war monging idiots that seem to stick out of the crowd so much....did I just say that.

"When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will see peace." - 'Jimi' Hendrix

[crwtom 0]

Guns are designed to kill. The better it kills the better the gun

Planes are designed to fly and the less likely death as a side
effect the better the plane.

Try again, T

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Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true

[rushmc 23]

So you don't see the connection with practicing by shooting a target and killing something.

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Nope

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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[ryoder 1,590]

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Look at me, I am giving someone crap about spelling

From the Woody Allen movie "Take the Money and Run",
(Woody/Virgil has just passed the teller a stickup note and she is conferring with another teller trying to read it):

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Bank Teller #1: Does this look like "gub" or "gun"?
Bank Teller #2: Gun. See? But what does "abt" mean?
Virgil: It's "act". A-C-T. Act natural. Please put fifty thousand dollars into this bag and act natural.
Bank Teller #1: Oh, I see. This is a holdup?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[rushmc 23]

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Look at me, I am giving someone crap about spelling

From the Woody Allen movie "Take the Money and Run",
(Woody/Virgil has just passed the teller a stickup note and she is conferring with another teller trying to read it):

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Bank Teller #1: Does this look like "gub" or "gun"?
Bank Teller #2: Gun. See? But what does "abt" mean?
Virgil: It's "act". A-C-T. Act natural. Please put fifty thousand dollars into this bag and act natural.
Bank Teller #1: Oh, I see. This is a holdup?

Thanks

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[ryoder 1,590]

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If you buy a handgun and only intend on going to a range and practicing is like buying an aircraft and and only ever using a flight simulator.

What positives come out of shooting your gun?

So we better also ban archery as well, because that is only practicing to kill?
And we better ban javelin throwing because spears are only designed to kill, right?
And we better disarm our police departments, because carrying guns only promotes violence correct?

"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones.

[warpedskydiver 0]

Ok, but I was thinking I would like a 747, I may not have enough money to maintain it, but damn it I am going to fly it!!!

Maybe over your town...

The plane will cause more harm than my rifles have, even if I don't crater in at your house.

[kschilk 0]

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Well there it is then. Why would anyone want to argue with this experts expert educated opinion. Hell, I am convinced!! Anybody else?

It must be true.....after all, he does have a D license.

"T'was ever thus."

[rushmc 23]

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Well there it is then. Why would anyone want to argue with this experts expert educated opinion. Hell, I am convinced!! Anybody else?

It must be true.....after all, he does have a D license.

Now there is two of us

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kbordson 8]

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you are confusing two separate issues.

Pollution and violence are completely separate and needn' be confused.

Pollution impacts the world population. Firearms are generally more singular in their effect. As a Non American - you opinion on things that directly affect you would have more weight than your thoughts on something that in NO WAY affects any day of your life. You don't live in our rules, you don't try to understand our topics.... your opinion on this holds no merit.

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Hand guns are stupid and pointless unless you want to maim or kill someone or something and general aviation brings joy to many.

Shooting guns brings joy too but only to violent people, violence is not something that needs to be encouraged.

befroe you bag me think about it a little.

I like how you states "your opinion" as absolutes. What you really mean is "Handguns are stupid and pointless to me." and "Shooting guns does not bring me joy" But... yet your phrasing assumes that your opinions of stupid and joy are universal. And those that dont share your views are "violent"

Firearms are actually facinating in their mechanics. This lever and then this spring activation. Then the forces inside the chamber resulting in the expulsion of the bullet. Several of my firearms are actually cut-aways revealing the details of the actions (and my favorite is a double sized M1 Carbine with cut away detail). But besides the device, the act of shooting is enjoyable too. The thought required to take the shot, taking powder characteristics into consideration. Reading the wind. Breathing control. Locking into a good and stable position. Shooter fatigue. It truly is a challenge to try to get a good score in a compitition.

You have no desire to even try to try to understand the shooters mentality.... except to consider us all to be "seppo Americans" and take an arrogant attitude about how less violent and thus, better, you are.

edit cuz I wasn't done ..... the term that is typically used in this situation is "giving both barrels"

[ExAFO 0]

How is it that cats can take relatively benign food items and turn them into the most vile waste on the planet?

Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW.

[kallend 2,150]

Why go after the small fry when there are much bigger polluters and users of non-renewable resources.

The Defense Department is the largest single consumer of fuel in the United States, using approximately 1.8 percent of the country’s total transportation fuel.

After all there's no real justification for having a military bigger than then next 15 nations combined. Just a waste.

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.