Taxes for thought, who says we need to pay more in taxes?

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Here are a list of taxes, please feel free to add any taxes you may be able to come up with.

Accounts Receivable Tax,
Building Permit Tax,
Capital Gains Tax,
CDL License Tax,
Cigarette Tax,
Corporate Income Tax,
Dog License Tax,
Federal Income Tax,
Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA),
Fishing License Tax,
Food License Tax,
Fuel Permit Tax,
Hunting License Tax,
Inheritance Tax,
Inventory Tax,
IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax),
IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax),
Local Community Tax,
Liquor Tax,
Luxury Tax,
Machine Gun Tax,
Marijuana Tax,
Marriage License Tax,
Medicare Tax,
Motor fuel Vehicle Tax,
Property Tax,
Real Estate Tax,
Service charge taxes,
Social Security Tax,
Road Usage Tax (Truckers),
Sales Taxes,
Recreational Vehicle Tax,
School Tax,
State Income Tax,
State Unemployment Tax (SUTA),
Telephone Federal Excise Tax,
Telephone Federal Universal Service Fee Tax,
Telephone Federal, State and Local Surcharge Tax,
Telephone Minimum Usage Surcharge Tax,
Telephone Recurring and Non-recurring Charges Tax,
Telephone State and Local Tax,
Telephone Usage Charge Tax,
Utility Tax,
Vehicle License Registration Tax,
Vehicle Sales Tax,
Watercraft Registration Tax,
Well Permit Tax,
Workers Compensation Tax.

[kallend 2,150]

Try to diffrentiate between the number of ways you can be taxed and the amount of revenue raised.

Since even this GOP cost-cutting neo-conservative administration is spending our money much faster than the revenues come in, a reasonable argument can be made that, overall, the US taxpayer is not paying his or her way.

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[jcd11235 0]

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IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax)

How is this a tax? Interest is the cost of borrowing money. If one owes taxes, and does not pay them on time, they are effectively borrowing money. It isn't taxation to charge rent on those funds, any more than it is taxation when a mortgage owner charges interest on a home mortgage.

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Marijuana Tax

This one might be a little out of date. I think many people would rather be taxed instead of arrested for their cannabis use.

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[AdamLanes 1]

You forgot the inflation tax.

[kelpdiver 2]

> Marriage License Tax

You should be distinguishing between fees (for services) and taxes as well. The county is doing work for that marriage license fee. OTOH, they do nothing for the sales tax collected. There, it is just a means of getting general revenue.

[Rookie120 0]

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overall, the US taxpayer is not paying his or her way.

Not paying his or her way? How much more do you want? How about I just give the Govt my entire check and they can give me what they think I deserve? Would that be paying my way?

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[jcd11235 0]

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overall, the US taxpayer is not paying his or her way.

Not paying his or her way? How much more do you want? How about I just give the Govt my entire check and they can give me what they think I deserve? Would that be paying my way?

Sounds perfect!

Any other volunteers?

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[billvon 3,120]

>Not paying his or her way?

Well, not paying as much as we're spending.

>How much more do you want?

Having each taxpayer in the US pay another $1800 a year would balance the budget.

The key to paying less is spending less. Complaining about it when you're spending more is like bitching about your credit card bill. "Those bastards want $2000 a month! I can't believe it! How could this have happened? Who can I blame? I know - the banks!"

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Try to diffrentiate between the number of ways you can be taxed and the amount of revenue raised.

Since even this GOP cost-cutting neo-conservative administration is spending our money much faster than the revenues come in, a reasonable argument can be made that, overall, the US taxpayer is not paying his or her way.

I'm definitely doing my part to make up for the fuckers not carrying their weight. If I remember correctly, so are you.

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[Andrewwhyte 1]

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> Marriage License Tax

You should be distinguishing between fees (for services) and taxes as well. The county is doing work for that marriage license fee. OTOH, they do nothing for the sales tax collected. There, it is just a means of getting general revenue.

Just what value is added to your marriage by the licensing agent? Marriage has existed for thousands of years without licenses; just because the government passes a law saying you need one does not mean they are doing you a service for issuing it.
In Canada our Government does us the "service" of registering our firearms for 200 bucks. I happen to know from personal experience that the gun works just fine without one.

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> Marriage License Tax

You should be distinguishing between fees (for services) and taxes as well. The county is doing work for that marriage license fee. OTOH, they do nothing for the sales tax collected. There, it is just a means of getting general revenue.

Just what value is added to your marriage by the licensing agent? Marriage has existed for thousands of years without licenses; just because the government passes a law saying you need one does not mean they are doing you a service for issuing it.
In Canada our Government does us the "service" of registering our firearms for 200 bucks. I happen to know from personal experience that the gun works just fine without one.

i can skydive without an A, B, C or D license, but most dropzones prefer that you have one, or work towards one.

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[Hausse 0]

How's about just releasing all people from jail who are in for silly drug crimes like smoking pot?
That would most probably safe more money than a big fat tax increase would bring

[kallend 2,150]

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overall, the US taxpayer is not paying his or her way.

Not paying his or her way? How much more do you want? How about I just give the Govt my entire check and they can give me what they think I deserve? Would that be paying my way?

Has it occurred to you that when revenues are less than spending, we get a little thing called a deficit. That means the taxpayers are not paying enough.

The cumulative US deficits over the last 7 years have set all-time records. Thank you George W. Bush and your supporters like Mr. Rookie here, for your outstanding fiscal wisdom and responsibility.

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Has it occurred to you that when revenues are less than spending, we get a little thing called a deficit. That means the taxpayers are not paying enough.

i prefer to look at it as OUR politicians are spending too much. I feel that we give them plenty of money, they just aren't using it wisely.

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[kallend 2,150]

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Has it occurred to you that when revenues are less than spending, we get a little thing called a deficit. That means the taxpayers are not paying enough.

i prefer to look at it as OUR politicians are spending too much. I feel that we give them plenty of money, they just aren't using it wisely.

Call the White House and tell them!

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[airdvr 210]

You know as well as I do that Congress spends money. Call your congressperson and ask them about pork and earmarks.

Wanna know who's really spending the money?

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/upload/wm1660_table1.pdf

Edited to Add:
Despite pledges to rein in pork, the Democratic Congress has included a combined 11,351 pork projects in the House and Senate appropriations bills.[1] If this legislation passes, thousands of government grants will be distributed based on politics, lobbying, and/or campaign donations, rather than on merit. Members of Congress should listen to the demands of frustrated voters and eliminate these projects.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm1660.cfm

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[kallend 2,150]

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You know as well as I do that Congress spends money. Call your congressperson and ask them about pork and earmarks.

Wanna know who's really spending the money?

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/upload/wm1660_table1.pdf

Edited to Add:
Despite pledges to rein in pork, the Democratic Congress has included a combined 11,351 pork projects in the House and Senate appropriations bills.[1] If this legislation passes, thousands of government grants will be distributed based on politics, lobbying, and/or campaign donations, rather than on merit. Members of Congress should listen to the demands of frustrated voters and eliminate these projects.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm1660.cfm

A $Trillion or so on an unnecessary war is certainly the fault of the White House.

"Our budget will run a deficit that will be small and short-term", G.W. Bush, 20 January 2002, before a joint session of Congress.

Small as in "world record largest in history", and short-term as in "no end in sight".

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[kelpdiver 2]

For immigration matters, it is essentially that there is a authoritative source documenting who is married. It may be necessary for insurance and other matters, but I'm not familiar being single.

So some method of recording and desemination is necessary in today's world.

[Andrewwhyte 1]

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For immigration matters, it is essentially that there is a authoritative source documenting who is married. It may be necessary for insurance and other matters, but I'm not familiar being single.

So some method of recording and desemination is necessary in today's world.

When i was a kid you could get a license or have the bans read in church three weeks in a row. Then the Gov said everyone had to get a license. That's all well and good, but to claim that they are performing a service for the couple is sophistry at its worst; it is not a service charge, it is a tax.

[airdvr 210]

A $Trillion or so on an unnecessary war is certainly the fault of the White House.


You know my opinion on this and I know yours. We don't have to re-hash it here.

"Our budget will run a deficit that will be small and short-term", G.W. Bush, 20 January 2002, before a joint session of Congress.

4 months after 9/11. No one could have predicted 6 years into the future then.

Have you looked at the list? I think there's only a few things my government is supposed to do for me. Maintain an armed force for my protection is pretty high on the list.

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They spend our money like it's theirs...Reps & Dems alike. I realize that being a professor you and your colleagues rely on government spending like this so you can do your research. I'm certain some if it is very important. I'm not certain that spending almost 4 million taxpayer dollars to study the Formosan Subterranean Termite is necessary. It might be but it sounds more like mutual masturbation to me.

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[airdvr 210]

It's not a marriage "license". It's a marriage contract. I always found it amusing that you go to church to get married and an attorney to get a divorce.

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[airdvr 210]

If you consider that alot of the things on the original list like state sales taxes and such are paid with money from your paycheck which has already been taxed the tax rate in this country is getting huge.

I used to run a business that financed cars. I'd spend $2000 for the car, sell it for $4000 and finance it with $500 down. In my books I went in debt by $1500 to sell that car. The tax code says I just made $2000 profit! Taxable profit at the time of sale. It almost put us out of business. I wrote a letter to every member of the House Ways & Means committee. Not one response. I always wondered what the average citizen would think if Uncle Sam wanted to tax them on money they hadn't received yet.

I feel sorry for the average joe who goes to work everyday and has no clue that his tax rate is approaching 50%. In Ohio he thinks he just got a raise because the upped the minimum wage.

WHere's the answer. I don't know. A balanced budget amendment might go a long ways here. Maybe flat tax or VAT. Line item veto powers for the Pres? Too much of a shift in the checks and balances.

Make no mistake about it...congress approves every dollar that's spent. In the end I beleive, if democracy fails in this country it will be because we all figure our that we can just vote ourselves more money.

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[nerdgirl 0]

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"Despite pledges to rein in pork, the Democratic Congress has included a combined 11,351 pork projects in the House and Senate appropriations bills. If this legislation passes, thousands of government grants will be distributed based on politics, lobbying, and/or campaign donations, rather than on merit. Members of Congress should listen to the demands of frustrated voters and eliminate these projects."
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Budget/wm1660.cfm

Thanks for the links. I've expressed my opinion on Congressional additions, "earmarks," here before - they're generally not useful and the Executive Agencies (generally) dislike them.

In looking at the Heritage Foundation links, one thing I noticed was that they did not include any additions from the Defense Appropriations Bill, which usually has the single largest share of earmarks.

From Taxpayers for Common Sense, "a non-partisan budget watchdog," Defense Spending Bill Earmarks Just Shy of $8 Billion

"The final 2008 Defense bill contains 2,161 earmarks worth $7,913,250,000. This is a reduction of 19% in total number of earmarks from 2653 earmarks in 2007 and a 30% reduction from the $11,289,645,000 total."

In looking closely at one DoD program, Congress took a $30M cut from the DoD's Chemical and Biological Defense Program (CBDP) core physical S&T program (i.e., detection, protection, decontamination, information systems) from what was requested in the PBR.

Congress also cut $100M from the CBDP's medical countermeasures program, which will mostly impact therepeutics and diagnostics.

But added over 50 earmarks.

VR/Marg

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[kallend 2,150]

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In looking at the Heritage Foundation links, one thing I noticed was that they did not include any additions from the Defense Appropriations Bill, which usually has the single largest share of earmarks.

Well, THERE'S a big surprise.

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[kallend 2,150]

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A $Trillion or so on an unnecessary war is certainly the fault of the White House.


You know my opinion on this and I know yours. We don't have to re-hash it here.

"Our budget will run a deficit that will be small and short-term", G.W. Bush, 20 January 2002, before a joint session of Congress.

4 months after 9/11. No one could have predicted 6 years into the future then.

Planning for the future is the job of the government.

Who ordered the UNNECESSARY invasion of Iraq?

The White House was already planning the Iraq war in 2002. I think it fair to say that the wasted $1Trillion (or so) can be blamed on Bush's bad planning and incompetence.

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