ryoder 1,590 #51 December 14, 2007 Quote This leads me to believe there would also be a problem with non-christians serving in the military. If I go by some of the staunch conservatives on this board, they aren't overly comfortable with mexicans either, so should they serve? What if it isn't completely clear if their whole family is legally in the US? Wouldn't there be some bonding issues too? I like your argument! To broaden the scope, the whole no-gays-in-the-military argument is that it makes bigots uncomfortable, so the rule was set in place for the benefit of the bigots."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #52 December 14, 2007 Turning things on their head a nit .... Maybe ONLY gays should be in the army, so that the population of the country is not adversely affected (old Greek idea, I think). (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #53 December 14, 2007 Quote Turning things on their head a nit .... Maybe ONLY gays should be in the army, so that the population of the country is not adversely affected (old Greek idea, I think). I've always thought the Foreign Legion was one of the best ideas the French ever had. A purely voluntary professional force composed of people from anywhere and everywhere, with undisclosed backgrounds. The movie "The Dirty Dozen" also had an idea with merit. If you are the enemy, would you prefer to fight: a) A bunch of scared draftees who would rather be in college? b) A bunch of thugs and killers who like what they are doing? "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #54 December 14, 2007 The Germans did a similar thing too during WW2 some form of penal tank support brigade (I think that Sven Hassel wrote about them - I read a lot of his books when I was a kid......a loooong time ago, so I could be wrong) (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #55 December 14, 2007 Quoteb) A bunch of thugs and killers who like what they are doing? Would the above not also have applied to, say, the Waffen SS? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #56 December 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteb) A bunch of thugs and killers who like what they are doing? Would the above not also have applied to, say, the Waffen SS? Just another example of "it's been done", however I was thinking in terms of an infantry force that engages the enemy, as opposed to a military-police-intelligence force that terrorizes it's own people."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #57 December 14, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteb) A bunch of thugs and killers who like what they are doing? Would the above not also have applied to, say, the Waffen SS? Just another example of "it's been done", however I was thinking in terms of an infantry force that engages the enemy, as opposed to a military-police-intelligence force that terrorizes it's own people. Good point.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #58 December 14, 2007 Quotean infantry force that engages the enemy, If gay marriage is outlawed, how can gay troops engage the enemy? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #59 December 14, 2007 Quote Quote an infantry force that engages the enemy, If gay marriage is outlawed, how can gay troops engage the enemy? Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #60 December 14, 2007 Quote Quote an infantry force that engages the enemy, If gay marriage is outlawed, how can gay troops engage the enemy? "I'm all for gay marriage; If we have to get married, then they have to get married; They've been getting a free ride way too long!" -- Tom Arnold on "The Tonight Show" "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jgoose71 0 #61 December 15, 2007 I voted "Don't ask don't tell". I really don't have a problem with gays in the military, but some of my assignments have lead to what is best described as "tight quarters". I just don't think I would be to comfortable parading my naked ass around in front of a bunch of gay men. Now if they made all the showers co-ed, then I may reconsider my stance, after all, what is fair is fair.But for right now, ignorance is bliss. If you want to look at my ass, just don't tell me about it. "There is an art, it says, or, rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." Life, the Universe, and Everything Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
