warpedskydiver 0 #1 December 11, 2007 Cook County Board Poised to Shut Down Cabela's Superstore CHICAGO, Dec. 9 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ -- The following was released today by the Illinois State Rifle Association (ISRA): Just weeks after its gala grand opening, the Cabela's superstore in Hoffman Estates, IL is facing closure by the Cook County (IL) Board. This impending action stems from a pair of proposed county ordinances prohibiting the retail sale of firearms at a location 15 miles or less from any other federally licensed firearm dealer. The proposals further prohibit retail sale of firearms within one mile of any school, church, place of worship, nursing home, homeless shelter, public housing, or military installation. With respect to these restrictions, Cabela's Hoffman Estates store loses on all counts - as does every other federally-licensed gun dealer in Cook County. "This proposal is an election year stunt instigated by Cook County Commissioner, Larry Suffredin," said ISRA Executive Director, Richard Pearson. "Although this is something that we'd expect to see from a gun-control extremist like Suffredin, I'm surprised to see astute politicians like Commissioners Claypool, Quigley, and Murphy signing on as co-sponsors to this farce." "Cabela's Hoffman Estates store employs hundreds of Cook County residents and brings in millions of sales tax dollars for the County," continued Pearson. "If Cabela's cannot sell firearms, then there is no Cabela's. If there is no Cabela's, then those retail dollars flee to DuPage, Kane or Will counties. The cash-strapped Cook County treasury really can't afford such a huge hit just because Larry Suffredin doesn't like people who own guns." "From a practical standpoint, Suffredin's proposal is a non-starter," commented Pearson. "It bears repeating that the Chicago Police Department has determined that 88% of murderers have previous criminal records as do 76% of murder victims. Federally-licensed firearm dealers are not the problem - career criminals are." "Furthermore", continued Pearson. "When was the last known case where someone walks out the door of a gun shop, in the door of a nursing home, and then proceeds to shoot the place up? The same Chicago Police Department report lists alleyways as being popular places to get murdered. Why then, did Suffredin not specify that no gun shop could be within one mile of an alley? The reason is simple - shock value. Suffredin prefers to play on the plight of our most vulnerable citizens in order to advance his quixotic campaign to disarm hunters and sportsmen. Commonsense is not part of the Suffredin lexicon." "One insidious side-effect of the Suffredin proposal is that it deeply erodes the home-rule authority of many of the larger communities in Cook County," noted Pearson. "The Suffredin proposal is expensive, ineffective, divisive and impractical," said Pearson. "I hope that Board President Stroger has the wisdom to immediately reject Suffredin's showboating." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnnyD 0 #2 December 11, 2007 Quote "Cabela's Hoffman Estates store employs hundreds of Cook County residents and brings in millions of sales tax dollars for the County," That pretty much says it all right there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KelliJ 0 #3 December 11, 2007 Such a shame that local politicians can try to ruin a retail outlet in that manner. They should go after the people who misuse the guns, not the people who sell them legally. I've been into a couple of their stores and found it to be an enjoyable shopping experience. But I do wonder just how much of an impact loss of firearm sales would be to them since it seems guns make up a small portion of what they offer. Just a thought. Maybe someone has some statistics on that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #4 December 11, 2007 f they are not allowed to sell any of their LEGAL wares, Cabelas will close it's doors and move. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #5 December 11, 2007 >This proposal is an election year stunt instigated by Cook County Commissioner, Larry Suffredin . . . Well, the good news there is that it's an election year - so they can vote his ass out of there if the community objects. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #6 December 11, 2007 Quote >This proposal is an election year stunt instigated by Cook County Commissioner, Larry Suffredin . . . Well, the good news there is that it's an election year - so they can vote his ass out of there if the community objects. Occasionally warped is correct. The CC board is as corrupt as any bunch of pols you will find anywhere.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #7 December 11, 2007 Quote Quote >This proposal is an election year stunt instigated by Cook County Commissioner, Larry Suffredin . . . Well, the good news there is that it's an election year - so they can vote his ass out of there if the community objects. Occasionally warped is correct. The CC board is as corrupt as any bunch of pols you will find anywhere. like a bad school board then? ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #8 December 11, 2007 It only appears that Cabela failed to do the research in regards to the legality of selling certian items in that location. They have only themselves to blame for failing to do such. I do agree that it is a stupid ordinance."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #9 December 11, 2007 QuoteIt only appears that Cabela failed to do the research in regards to the legality of selling certian items in that location. They have only themselves to blame for failing to do such. I do agree that it is a stupid ordinance. Quote: "Cabela's superstore is facing closure by the Cook County (IL) Board. This impending action stems from a pair of proposed county ordinances prohibiting the retail sale of firearms at a location 15 miles or less from any other federally licensed firearm dealer. The proposals further prohibit retail sale of firearms within one mile of any school, church, place of worship, nursing home, homeless shelter, public housing, or military installation."Note that these are only proposed ordinances. It means they probably didn't even exist at the time Cabela's bought the land and started building their store. These are an after-the-fact jab at them. Cabela's specializes in hunting firearms. The local stores here, just like Bass Pro Shops, don't even sell so-called "assault weapons" or old military surplus arms. They don't even carry the kind of long-range target ammo I use. Every gun sale transaction by these stores is personally approved by the FBI background check system. It's ridiculous to prohibit the sale of firearms in gun stores by treating them like pornography shops. If you take a map and start drawing circles around all the prohibited locations specified, I'll bet you'll find that all the circles overlap and that there is basically nowhere that legally qualifies under that stupid proposal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #10 December 11, 2007 Even though they are proposals, I would think that their attorenys would had checked for such (I suppose they will do such in the future). Either way, the propositions do nothing to protect the community and robs the residents of tax revenues to help improve their community. The people should be outraged by this."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #11 December 11, 2007 QuoteEven though they are proposals, I would think that their attorenys would had checked for such You presume that the proposals existed prior to the start of construction of the store. That is not necessarily so. It could have been that the anti-gun politician didn't come up with the proposal until after the store construction was already underway. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #12 December 11, 2007 Quote This impending action stems from a pair of proposed county ordinances prohibiting the retail sale of firearms at a location 15 miles or less from any other federally licensed firearm dealer. I get so damn tired of asinine laws restricting X within Y feet (or miles) of Y. Do our elected idiots really think criminals don't have access to cars? Of course not! Inclusion of such bullshit into any law is proof the law is really a back-door way to make a law against something while technically claiming it doesn't out-right prohibit it."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
freethefly 6 #13 December 11, 2007 QuoteQuoteEven though they are proposals, I would think that their attorenys would had checked for such You presume that the proposals existed prior to the start of construction of the store. That is not necessarily so. It could have been that the anti-gun politician didn't come up with the proposal until after the store construction was already underway. Good point. If this is what happened, then it points towards some level of discrimination towards certian products being offered inside Cabela's and a lame attempt to restrict them."...And once you're gone, you can't come back When you're out of the blue and into the black." Neil Young Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #14 December 11, 2007 QuoteOccasionally warped is correct. The CC board is as corrupt as any bunch of pols you will find anywhere. The question I have is what do they think they will accomplish by doing this? Why didnt they object to them before they spent millions on the new store? Why didnt they object when they applied for all the permits?If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #15 December 11, 2007 QuoteQuoteYou presume that the proposals existed prior to the start of construction of the store. That is not necessarily so. It could have been that the anti-gun politician didn't come up with the proposal until after the store construction was already underway. Good point. If this is what happened, then it points towards some level of discrimination towards certian products being offered inside Cabela's and a lame attempt to restrict them. Ding ding ding! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #16 December 11, 2007 QuoteWhy didnt they object to them before they spent millions on the new store? Why didnt they object when they applied for all the permits? This way it maximizes the financial damage to those evil people that want to legitimately sell firearms. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites