Climate warming is natural, not human caused, says new study

[rushmc 23]

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Climate warming is natural, not human caused, says new study
International Journal of Climatology of the Royal Meteorological Society [DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651] (December 2007)

Climate scientists at the University of Rochester, the University of Alabama, and the University of Virginia report that observed patterns of temperature changes ('fingerprints') over the last thirty years are not in accord with what greenhouse models predict and can better be explained by natural factors, such as solar variability. Therefore, climate change is 'unstoppable' and cannot be affected or modified by controlling the emission of greenhouse gases, such as CO2, as is proposed in current legislation.

These results are in conflict with the conclusions of the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and also with some recent research publications based on essentially the same data. However, they are supported by the results of the US-sponsored Climate Change Science Program (CCSP).

The report is published in the December 2007 issue of the International Journal of Climatology of the Royal Meteorological Society [DOI: 10.1002/joc.1651]. The authors are Prof. David H. Douglass (Univ. of Rochester), Prof. John R. Christy (Univ. of Alabama), Benjamin D. Pearson (graduate student), and Prof. S. Fred Singer (Univ. of Virginia).

The fundamental question is whether the observed warming is natural or anthropogenic (human-caused). Lead author David Douglass said: "The observed pattern of warming, comparing surface and atmospheric temperature trends, does not show the characteristic fingerprint associated with greenhouse warming. The inescapable conclusion is that the human contribution is not significant and that observed increases in carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases make only a negligible contribution to climate warming."

Co-author John Christy said: "Satellite data and independent balloon data agree that atmospheric warming trends do not exceed those of the surface. Greenhouse models, on the other hand, demand that atmospheric trend values be 2-3 times greater. We have good reason, therefore, to believe that current climate models greatly overestimate the effects of greenhouse gases. Satellite observations suggest that GH models ignore negative feedbacks, produced by clouds and by water vapor, that diminish the warming effects of carbon dioxide."

Co-author S. Fred Singer said: "The current warming trend is simply part of a natural cycle of climate warming and cooling that has been seen in ice cores, deep-sea sediments, stalagmites, etc., and published in hundreds of papers in peer-reviewed journals. The mechanism for producing such cyclical climate changes is still under discussion; but they are most likely caused by variations in the solar wind and associated magnetic fields that affect the flux of cosmic rays incident on the earth's atmosphere. In turn, such cosmic rays are believed to influence cloudiness and thereby control the amount of sunlight reaching the earth's surface-and thus the climate." Our research demonstrates that the ongoing rise of atmospheric CO2 has only a minor influence on climate change. We must conclude, therefore, that attempts to control CO2 emissions are ineffective and pointless. - but very costly."

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Some info on the authors


Prof. John R. Christy

A power point presentation
http://www.americanexperiment.org/uploaded/files/christy_climate_change_powerpoint_070506.pdf

John R. Christy, June 2007
Prof. John R. Christy -- one of a handful of scientists to actually build "data sets of climate variation and change from scratch" -- talks about how finding "dramatic changes in climate systems" is really quite difficult.

Dr. Christy is professor of Atmospheric Science and Director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, where he and a colleague have collected and analyzed global temperature information from satellite-observed microwave data going back to 1979. For this breakthrough, he was awarded NASA's Medal for Exceptional Scientific Achievement. He likewise has been honored by the American Meteorological Society, which later named him a Fellow -- and since 2000, he's also been known as "Alabama State Climatologist."

A contributor and lead author to several reports of the U.N. International Panel on Global Climate Change, Professor Christy earned his doctorate at the University of Illinois.
Prof. S. Fred Singer
http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Prof.+S.+Fred+Singer&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images


Benjamin D. Pearson


http://www.google.com/search?as_q=&hl=en&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=Benjamin+D.+Pearson&as_oq=&as_eq=&lr=&cr=&as_ft=i&as_filetype=&as_qdr=all&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&as_occt=any&as_dt=i&as_sitesearch=&as_rights=&safe=images

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[billvon 3,120]

>Prof. S. Fred Singer

Since you brought Fred Singer's reputation into this, I will add a few tidbits.

Siegfried Frederick Singer (born September 27, 1924 in Vienna) is an American electrical engineer and physicist. He is best known as President and founder (in 1990) of the Science & Environmental Policy Project, which disputes the prevailing scientific views of climate change, ozone depletion, and secondhand smoke. . . .Singer has also worked with organizations with similar views, such as the Independent Institute, the American Council on Science and Health, Frontiers of Freedom, the Marshall Institute, and the National Center for Policy Analysis.

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As recently as 2003, Singer said that the atmosphere had not warmed in recent decades. Singer has emphasized natural factors over anthropogenic causes to explain global warming.

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(sorry, Rush, I know you are going to have no clue as to what this next section has to do with anything, but others likely will)

Singer was a co-author of early drafts of the Science, economics, and environmental policy: a critical examination report and had been singled out as the man for the job in a memo from AdTI to the Tobacco Institute. A notation on that memo from Walter Woodson, Vice President-Public Affairs of the Tobacco Institute to Sam Chilcote, Jr, President of the Tobacco Institute, said that the job would be well worth the $20,000. The report attacked the United States Environmental Protection Agency for their 1993 study about the cancer risks of passive smoking and called it "junk science".

[rushmc 23]

No bad shit on Chrity I take it?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

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>Prof. S. Fred Singer

Since you brought Fred Singer's reputation into this, I will add a few tidbits.

Siegfried Frederick Singer (born September 27, 1924 in Vienna) is an American electrical engineer and physicist. He is best known as President and founder (in 1990) of the Science & Environmental Policy Project, which disputes the prevailing scientific views of climate change, ozone depletion, and secondhand smoke. . . .Singer has also worked with organizations with similar views, such as the Independent Institute, the American Council on Science and Health, Frontiers of Freedom, the Marshall Institute, and the National Center for Policy Analysis.

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As recently as 2003, Singer said that the atmosphere had not warmed in recent decades. Singer has emphasized natural factors over anthropogenic causes to explain global warming.

. . .

(sorry, Rush, I know you are going to have no clue as to what this next section has to do with anything, but others likely will)

Singer was a co-author of early drafts of the Science, economics, and environmental policy: a critical examination report and had been singled out as the man for the job in a memo from AdTI to the Tobacco Institute. A notation on that memo from Walter Woodson, Vice President-Public Affairs of the Tobacco Institute to Sam Chilcote, Jr, President of the Tobacco Institute, said that the job would be well worth the $20,000. The report attacked the United States Environmental Protection Agency for their 1993 study about the cancer risks of passive smoking and called it "junk science".

Did you ever see the suppressed world health organization report on second hand smoke?


But hell know, I dont get anything.

Glad I give you an oportunity to get another shot in. Feel better?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[kallend 2,150]

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No bad shit on Chrity I take it?

Well, he worked with Singer. "You are known by the company you keep."

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The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one.

[masterblaster72 0]

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Did you ever see the suppressed world health organization report on second hand smoke?


But hell know, I dont get anything.

Glad I give you an oportunity to get another shot is. Feel better?

Ever consider that your busted spelling/grammar screws your credibility?

Proofreading, spell-checking...look into them.

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[rushmc 23]

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Did you ever see the suppressed world health organization report on second hand smoke?


But hell know, I dont get anything.

Glad I give you an oportunity to get another shot is. Feel better?

Ever consider that your busted spelling/grammar screws your credibility?

Proofreading, spell-checking...look into them.

Well hi there. How the hell you doing???

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[rushmc 23]

Hey, and if you got anything to bring to the table other than an insult let me know. Maybe then it will be worth paying attention

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[masterblaster72 0]

I don't mean it as an insult.

So have you ever considered proofreading/spell-checking, or do you think that decent spelling/grammar are in the domain of "elitist liberals?"

Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up.

[rushmc 23]

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I don't mean it as an insult.

So have you ever considered proofreading/spell-checking, or do you think that decent spelling/grammar are in the domain of "elitist liberals?"

OK, sorry if I took your post wrong.

Yes I have, and at times I use it depending on how busy I am and/or how lazy I am feeling.

The spell check here does not work well for me. My spelling, even though it has improved beyond what I could even tell you, is still terrible. The blessings of whole language teaching. Sometimes I start out so bad that spell check cant even help me.

I try and more than I care to admit, I fail

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[jenfly00 0]

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Did you ever see the suppressed world health organization report on second hand smoke?


But hell know, I dont get anything.

Glad I give you an oportunity to get another shot is. Feel better?

Ever consider that your busted spelling/grammar screws your credibility?reply]

You've read his posts. How could you possibly believe he is concerned with credibility?

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"O brave new world that has such people in it".

[billvon 3,120]

>Did you ever see the suppressed world health organization report
>on second hand smoke?

What does that have to do with anything? Why are you bringing up smoking? Trying to change the subject?

[rushmc 23]

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>Did you ever see the suppressed world health organization report
>on second hand smoke?

What does that have to do with anything? Why are you bringing up smoking? Trying to change the subject?

what ever works for you bill, what ever works for you

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[skydyvr 0]

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You've read his posts. How could you possibly believe he is concerned with credibility?

Hey, at least he authors all his own posts.

You can't say the same, and thus are genuinely hilarious questioning another's credibility. A real knee slapper you are.

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[billvon 3,120]

>Climate warming is natural, not human caused, says new study

I just read the report and it does not state that.

>Therefore, climate change is 'unstoppable' and cannot be affected
>or modified by controlling the emission of greenhouse gases, such as
>CO2, as is proposed in current legislation.

The report does not state that. The word "unstoppable" doesn't even appear in it.

Junkscience looks like it's well-named.

[rushmc 23]

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>Climate warming is natural, not human caused, says new study

I just read the report and it does not state that.

>Therefore, climate change is 'unstoppable' and cannot be affected
>or modified by controlling the emission of greenhouse gases, such as
>CO2, as is proposed in current legislation.

The report does not state that. The word "unstoppable" doesn't even appear in it.

Junkscience looks like it's well-named.

OK, so, other that this one liner, what conclusions do you draw from the report? Or is the better question, do the authors of this report believe warming is caused (mainly) by human activities?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

[Amazon 7]

As Ronnie RayGun once said.....



"There you go again"

[Amazon 7]

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Hey, at least he authors all his own posts.

You can't say the same, and thus are genuinely hilarious questioning another's credibility. A real knee slapper you are.

Now that right there is some funny shit........I dont care who you are.....

Original thought?????

BWAJHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

If he hears it or its posted on LushRimjob.com... he will post it.

[billvon 3,120]

>what conclusions do you draw from the report?

They believe that the measured upper atmosphere temperatures are lower than predicted by most models. (By their admission, though, some agree and some do not.)

> Or is the better question, do the authors of this report believe warming is
> caused (mainly) by human activities?

It does not address that.

[skydyvr 0]

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If he hears it or its posted on LushRimjob.com... he will post it.

And he credits the source each and every time.

Whoosh.

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[Amazon 7]

DUDE.. do you have a CLUE about what is original thought????

[skydyvr 0]

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DUDE.. do you have a CLUE about what is original thought????

What are you talking about? You seem to be babbling again.

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[Amazon 7]

Seems to have gotten certain posters out from under their rock again to make one line snippets.

And its truely funny to think that is original thought....DUH

I guess that passes for intellectualism on the far right these days

[jenfly00 0]

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DUDE.. do you have a CLUE about what is original thought????

What are you talking about? .

I think that answers your question?

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"O brave new world that has such people in it".