masterblaster72 0 #26 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote I'll take a 3.2 average that knows how to communicate clearly in plain english, and put together a good summary of experience, and that can handle simple and tough interview questions of various styles (I ask about personal goals, give actual problems to solve, and also give nearly impossible problems to solve just to see how they compose themselves, etc) over a 4.0 that can't look me in the eyes and give a good handshake and tries to 'wow' me by looking up a few specialize terms in the industry (and I personally fit closer to the last guy than the first when I graduated college). I know how to look someone in the eyes and give a firm handshake, but you would never hire someone like me -- I absolutely suck at interviewing. I do make a good employee though. Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #27 December 7, 2007 Quote I absolutely suck at interviewing. a good interview needs only a few things: 1 - an honest self assessment 2 - clear personal goals 3 - the ability to clearly convey those in a simple, friendly, brief way part 3 should happen naturally from successfully doing parts 1 and 2 ahead of time for people that genuine want to do good: 1 - they aren't honest with themselves, that shows 2 - they are vague to themselves about their personal goals, that shows for the rest? 1 - they are disrespectful/resentful with others, very clear 2 - they have chips on their shoulders, very clear you do fine here, you should be able to do a good interview writing a good resume isn't about the finished product, it should be about a thorough and honest self assessment so you aren't lost when asked questions about yourself. it's not hard ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #28 December 7, 2007 The problem is that I WORK MY ASS OFF for what I have. I'm in the market for an airplane. I can afford it because I work more than twice the hours in a week as most people who work full time. I don't think there's anyone more deserving of what I earn than ME.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,184 #29 December 7, 2007 QuoteThe problem is that I WORK MY ASS OFF for what I have. I'm in the market for an airplane. I can afford it because I work more than twice the hours in a week as most people who work full time. I don't think there's anyone more deserving of what I earn than ME. I already have my airplane and I believe I deserve it too (since all my assets come from my own efforts, I didn't inherit anything). I also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes (without whining) to belong to a society that allows these good things to happen, educates its children, and doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ryoder 1,590 #30 December 7, 2007 Quote ...(since all my assets come from my own efforts, I didn't inherit anything). Well that is your own fault for not choosing your parents more carefully.(I made the same mistake.)"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #31 December 7, 2007 I also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes (without whining) to belong to a society that allows these good things to happen, educates its children, and doesn't allow the least fortunate to satrve on the streets. There's paying to be sure that certain societal obligations are met, and there's paying to make sure people who do little to improve their own circumstances have plenty. My good fortune working a typical 40-hour week would still be good. My good fortune working 100+ hours a week is very good, but I find little time for watching tv. I don't think my labor should buy a tv (much less cell phones, spinners and big sub-woofers for her boyfriend's car, and on and on) for someone who's not interested in bustin' her own ass. Helping people avoid starvation and children avoid homelessness is a good place to draw the line, imho.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #32 December 7, 2007 Quote I also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes (without whining) to belong to a society that allows these good things to happen, educates its children, and doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #33 December 7, 2007 Quoteand doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets.So you got where you are today by a pure stroke of luck? I am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,184 #34 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteand doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets.So you got where you are today by a pure stroke of luck? Didn't we all? What fraction of sperm get to fertilize an egg? 1 in 10^9 or less? Quote I am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' Feel free to be as sick as you like. I think someone born with, say, Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy is distinctly less fortunate than you or me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #35 December 8, 2007 QuoteI also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes Some feel obligated to put 10 percent of their income toward the church to thank God for allowing good things to happen. I don't think you'd agree with ensuring everybody does what they believe is appropriate. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,184 #36 December 8, 2007 QuoteQuoteI also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes Some feel obligated to put 10 percent of their income toward the church to thank God for allowing good things to happen. I don't think you'd agree with ensuring everybody does what they believe is appropriate. If I chose to belong to such a church I don't think I'd whine about my tithe.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #37 December 8, 2007 QuoteIf I chose to belong to such a church I don't think I'd whine about my tithe. Ah, but what if the church somehow managed to get EVERYONE to pay the tithe, because THEY felt it was important? Would you object? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,184 #38 December 8, 2007 QuoteQuoteIf I chose to belong to such a church I don't think I'd whine about my tithe. Ah, but what if the church somehow managed to get EVERYONE to pay the tithe, because THEY felt it was important? Would you object? I am an atheist and I don't particularly care what arrangements organized religions make for their followers. Try another analogy that might mean something to me - like membership of the USPA or something.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #39 December 8, 2007 How about our taxes go to things that are distributed evenly....like education, highways, the things we all use. Beyond that, charity is where it's at. You could not whine about giving as much as you choose to whom you choose to give it. I'd be happy to do the same.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,184 #40 December 8, 2007 QuoteHow about our taxes go to things that are distributed evenly....like education, highways, the things we all use. Beyond that, charity is where it's at. You could not whine about giving as much as you choose to whom you choose to give it. I'd be happy to do the same. Oh, so taxes should only go for things YOU approve of. Since cerebral palsy and Down's syndrome and other disabling conditions aren't distributed equally in the population, how would you suggest they are handled? Either charity or out on the streets to starve according to you, since we can't all use the medical treatment for them? Should foreign wars of aggression be paid for by charity? (I certainly wouldn't choose to be associated with the Iraq quagmire and it hasn't benefitted most of us). PS I don't whine about paying my taxes. I thought that was fairly clear.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #41 December 8, 2007 am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteFeel free to be as sick as you like. I think someone born with, say, Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy is distinctly less fortunate than you or me. Who are you kidding? When liberals use the term 'less fortunate', visions of children with Down's syndrome or cerebal palsy don't pop into their heads. When was the last time that you saw a person with those problems not being taken care of by family or charity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites kallend 2,184 #42 December 8, 2007 Quote am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteFeel free to be as sick as you like. I think someone born with, say, Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy is distinctly less fortunate than you or me. Who are you kidding? When liberals use the term 'less fortunate', visions of children with Down's syndrome or cerebal palsy don't pop into their heads. Are they or are they not less fortunate than you? Is someone who suffered brain damage due to a doped up mother as fortunate as you? Is someone whose parents were killed in a car crash and grew up in an institution as fortunate as you? Do you have any idea what fraction of homeless people are mentally ill? You don't even realize how well off you are.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Lindsey 0 #43 December 8, 2007 Oh, so taxes should only go for things YOU approve of. Nope. But I do think that government-run welfare programs should be scaled back. I think that people should not be required to pay for folks who don't want to get of their rear ends.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #44 December 8, 2007 QuoteYou don't even realize how well off you are. Most of us do. I had some problems when I was a child. I dont use them as a scapegoat though. I dont use it as an excuse so I can be a worthless ass and suck on the Govt tit the rest of my life. Most get where they are by working there ass off to get there. I am far from rich. I am about as middle class as they come but I dont look at someone who has more to hand me down some. I can work for mine. The rewards feel real good when you work for it.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,132 #45 December 8, 2007 >I can work for mine. Good! But not everyone can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #46 December 8, 2007 Good! But not everyone can. *** Thats to bad. But a lot can but they choose not to. That is what need to be addressed!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #47 December 8, 2007 QuoteGood! But not everyone can. *** Thats to bad. But a lot can but they choose not to. That is what need to be addressed! BINGO!! But you and I know that will not buy you votes"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Rookie120 0 #48 December 8, 2007 Quote BINGO!! But you and I know that will not buy you votes Yeah, but the last I looked I wasnt running for anything. Politicians have to be the most spineless, gutless, hopeless, pieces of garbage.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #49 December 8, 2007 QuoteGood! But not everyone can. *** Thats to bad. But a lot can but they choose not to. That is what need to be addressed! Nailed it. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rushmc 23 #50 December 8, 2007 Quote Quote BINGO!! But you and I know that will not buy you votes Yeah, but the last I looked I wasnt running for anything. Politicians have to be the most spineless, gutless, hopeless, pieces of garbage. Agreed But those that want to give YOUR money away, are"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." 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rehmwa 2 #27 December 7, 2007 Quote I absolutely suck at interviewing. a good interview needs only a few things: 1 - an honest self assessment 2 - clear personal goals 3 - the ability to clearly convey those in a simple, friendly, brief way part 3 should happen naturally from successfully doing parts 1 and 2 ahead of time for people that genuine want to do good: 1 - they aren't honest with themselves, that shows 2 - they are vague to themselves about their personal goals, that shows for the rest? 1 - they are disrespectful/resentful with others, very clear 2 - they have chips on their shoulders, very clear you do fine here, you should be able to do a good interview writing a good resume isn't about the finished product, it should be about a thorough and honest self assessment so you aren't lost when asked questions about yourself. it's not hard ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #28 December 7, 2007 The problem is that I WORK MY ASS OFF for what I have. I'm in the market for an airplane. I can afford it because I work more than twice the hours in a week as most people who work full time. I don't think there's anyone more deserving of what I earn than ME.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #29 December 7, 2007 QuoteThe problem is that I WORK MY ASS OFF for what I have. I'm in the market for an airplane. I can afford it because I work more than twice the hours in a week as most people who work full time. I don't think there's anyone more deserving of what I earn than ME. I already have my airplane and I believe I deserve it too (since all my assets come from my own efforts, I didn't inherit anything). I also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes (without whining) to belong to a society that allows these good things to happen, educates its children, and doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #30 December 7, 2007 Quote ...(since all my assets come from my own efforts, I didn't inherit anything). Well that is your own fault for not choosing your parents more carefully.(I made the same mistake.)"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #31 December 7, 2007 I also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes (without whining) to belong to a society that allows these good things to happen, educates its children, and doesn't allow the least fortunate to satrve on the streets. There's paying to be sure that certain societal obligations are met, and there's paying to make sure people who do little to improve their own circumstances have plenty. My good fortune working a typical 40-hour week would still be good. My good fortune working 100+ hours a week is very good, but I find little time for watching tv. I don't think my labor should buy a tv (much less cell phones, spinners and big sub-woofers for her boyfriend's car, and on and on) for someone who's not interested in bustin' her own ass. Helping people avoid starvation and children avoid homelessness is a good place to draw the line, imho.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #32 December 7, 2007 Quote I also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes (without whining) to belong to a society that allows these good things to happen, educates its children, and doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #33 December 7, 2007 Quoteand doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets.So you got where you are today by a pure stroke of luck? I am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #34 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteand doesn't allow the least fortunate to starve on the streets.So you got where you are today by a pure stroke of luck? Didn't we all? What fraction of sperm get to fertilize an egg? 1 in 10^9 or less? Quote I am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' Feel free to be as sick as you like. I think someone born with, say, Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy is distinctly less fortunate than you or me.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #35 December 8, 2007 QuoteI also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes Some feel obligated to put 10 percent of their income toward the church to thank God for allowing good things to happen. I don't think you'd agree with ensuring everybody does what they believe is appropriate. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #36 December 8, 2007 QuoteQuoteI also believe that my good fortune puts an obligation on me to pay my taxes Some feel obligated to put 10 percent of their income toward the church to thank God for allowing good things to happen. I don't think you'd agree with ensuring everybody does what they believe is appropriate. If I chose to belong to such a church I don't think I'd whine about my tithe.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #37 December 8, 2007 QuoteIf I chose to belong to such a church I don't think I'd whine about my tithe. Ah, but what if the church somehow managed to get EVERYONE to pay the tithe, because THEY felt it was important? Would you object? My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #38 December 8, 2007 QuoteQuoteIf I chose to belong to such a church I don't think I'd whine about my tithe. Ah, but what if the church somehow managed to get EVERYONE to pay the tithe, because THEY felt it was important? Would you object? I am an atheist and I don't particularly care what arrangements organized religions make for their followers. Try another analogy that might mean something to me - like membership of the USPA or something.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #39 December 8, 2007 How about our taxes go to things that are distributed evenly....like education, highways, the things we all use. Beyond that, charity is where it's at. You could not whine about giving as much as you choose to whom you choose to give it. I'd be happy to do the same.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #40 December 8, 2007 QuoteHow about our taxes go to things that are distributed evenly....like education, highways, the things we all use. Beyond that, charity is where it's at. You could not whine about giving as much as you choose to whom you choose to give it. I'd be happy to do the same. Oh, so taxes should only go for things YOU approve of. Since cerebral palsy and Down's syndrome and other disabling conditions aren't distributed equally in the population, how would you suggest they are handled? Either charity or out on the streets to starve according to you, since we can't all use the medical treatment for them? Should foreign wars of aggression be paid for by charity? (I certainly wouldn't choose to be associated with the Iraq quagmire and it hasn't benefitted most of us). PS I don't whine about paying my taxes. I thought that was fairly clear.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #41 December 8, 2007 am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteFeel free to be as sick as you like. I think someone born with, say, Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy is distinctly less fortunate than you or me. Who are you kidding? When liberals use the term 'less fortunate', visions of children with Down's syndrome or cerebal palsy don't pop into their heads. When was the last time that you saw a person with those problems not being taken care of by family or charity? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,184 #42 December 8, 2007 Quote am so sick of the term 'Less fortunate.' -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteFeel free to be as sick as you like. I think someone born with, say, Down's syndrome or cerebral palsy is distinctly less fortunate than you or me. Who are you kidding? When liberals use the term 'less fortunate', visions of children with Down's syndrome or cerebal palsy don't pop into their heads. Are they or are they not less fortunate than you? Is someone who suffered brain damage due to a doped up mother as fortunate as you? Is someone whose parents were killed in a car crash and grew up in an institution as fortunate as you? Do you have any idea what fraction of homeless people are mentally ill? You don't even realize how well off you are.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #43 December 8, 2007 Oh, so taxes should only go for things YOU approve of. Nope. But I do think that government-run welfare programs should be scaled back. I think that people should not be required to pay for folks who don't want to get of their rear ends.-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #44 December 8, 2007 QuoteYou don't even realize how well off you are. Most of us do. I had some problems when I was a child. I dont use them as a scapegoat though. I dont use it as an excuse so I can be a worthless ass and suck on the Govt tit the rest of my life. Most get where they are by working there ass off to get there. I am far from rich. I am about as middle class as they come but I dont look at someone who has more to hand me down some. I can work for mine. The rewards feel real good when you work for it.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,132 #45 December 8, 2007 >I can work for mine. Good! But not everyone can. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #46 December 8, 2007 Good! But not everyone can. *** Thats to bad. But a lot can but they choose not to. That is what need to be addressed!If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #47 December 8, 2007 QuoteGood! But not everyone can. *** Thats to bad. But a lot can but they choose not to. That is what need to be addressed! BINGO!! But you and I know that will not buy you votes"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rookie120 0 #48 December 8, 2007 Quote BINGO!! But you and I know that will not buy you votes Yeah, but the last I looked I wasnt running for anything. Politicians have to be the most spineless, gutless, hopeless, pieces of garbage.If you find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #49 December 8, 2007 QuoteGood! But not everyone can. *** Thats to bad. But a lot can but they choose not to. That is what need to be addressed! Nailed it. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #50 December 8, 2007 Quote Quote BINGO!! But you and I know that will not buy you votes Yeah, but the last I looked I wasnt running for anything. Politicians have to be the most spineless, gutless, hopeless, pieces of garbage. Agreed But those that want to give YOUR money away, are"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
