Zing 2 #1 December 7, 2007 http://www.firerescue1.com/news/320455/ Boston firefighter stabbed By Laurel J. Sweet The Boston Herald BOSTON — A Boston firefighter is mending from what could have been deadly stab wounds he suffered early yesterday morning when he was allegedly jumped in East Boston while off duty by a group of Hispanic males who told him they "don't want any gringo here." Though police are not classifying the incident as racially fueled, the Boston Police Department's Community Disorders Unit is investigating. The 32-year-old jake, whose name officials were not releasing, is white. Ironically, the firefighter's life was likely saved because he sought refuge from his alleged assailants at Engine 5 on Saratoga Street - the station house he's assigned to. "Fortunately, those firefighters were not out on a call," said Boston Fire Department spokesman Steve MacDonald. MacDonald said the firefighter had gone to Chivas Restaurant in Day Square to grab takeout when "six guys started exchanging words with him. He indicated he was just there to get a sandwich and that he was a firefighter. They pushed him." Hoping to avoid a confrontation, MacDonald said the firefighter got into his car and headed for his station for safety's sake, but the pack followed him on foot. It was shortly before 2:45 a.m. "As soon as he got out of his car, six guys jumped him and started kicking and punching him," MacDonald said. "He felt two sharp pains in his chest and knew he had been stabbed." The firefighter summoned the help of fellow jakes by ringing the station doorbell and his alleged attackers fled. MacDonald said his injuries do not appear to be life-threatening. "He's more upset about the fact that he's going to miss several shifts," MacDonald said. Police found no suspects in the area, but urge anyone with information to call 1-800-494-TIPS. Copyright 2007 Boston Herald Inc Seems to me that if you reversed the roles in this little drama and it were a group of Caucasians assaulting a Latino, or other member of a minority group, it damn sure would be tried as a "racially motivated" crime. I'll admit straight out that I'm a biogoted S.O.B., but only with the caveat that I am an equal-opportunity bigot. I reserve the right to dislike any asshole on this Earth regardless of their race, color, creed, gender, disability or sexual orientation. If I don't like you, you can bet its for a reason other than those in my caveat, but not because of one of them, ever. Right this minute, I ain't thinkin' happy thoughts for the gang that attacked this guy.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #2 December 7, 2007 To be a hate crime a white person has to be the perp. "America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #3 December 7, 2007 Can't be a hate crime if Whitey gets hurt. Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #4 December 7, 2007 I know DSE disagrees with me, but the whole concept of "hate crime" is Bullshit. People should be charged with what they do, not what they think, let alone what 12 strangers believe they were thinking at the time of the crime."There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #5 December 7, 2007 I will take you at your word...self awareness is one of the most important attributes one can attain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zing 2 #6 December 7, 2007 Gotta agree with you on the whole thought police thing, but I wasn't consulted about the hate crime legislation either.Zing Lurks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D22369 0 #7 December 7, 2007 To be a hate crime a white person has to be the perp. *** no shit, if a non white calls me "honky, whitey, white bread, cracker no big deal right? but if I say nigger, spic, beaner or pepper belly ---- that makes me a racist right? fuck them, fuck being politically correct - if your politically correct, turn in your man card and put on a fucking dress be honest, say what you think....fuck them if they get offended, I dont give a fuck Roy edited to correct my horrible white boy spellingThey say I suffer from insanity.... But I actually enjoy it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shropshire 0 #8 December 7, 2007 I 100% agree, but then again I've not been on the recieving end of racial abuse.... maybe, I'd think differently if'n I had. (.)Y(.) Chivalry is not dead; it only sleeps for want of work to do. - Jerome K Jerome Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flacid_Monk 0 #9 December 7, 2007 i think all firefighters should be armed Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #10 December 7, 2007 Quotei think all firefighters should be armed With Flamethrowers! "You wanna get hot-headed? I'll show you HOT!"My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #11 December 7, 2007 In the uk it could be. It also doesn't matter what the police think, if the victim believes it to be a racially motivated attack then that is what it is classified as.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
flipper 0 #12 December 7, 2007 Tru ... Fuck them ... its gotta work both ways ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glitch 0 #13 December 7, 2007 ...be honest, say what you think....fuck them if they get offended... Quote And this is how it should be! The Constitution grants/guarantees us many rights, but the right to NOT be offended isn't one of them! Randomly f'n thingies up since before I was born... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Richards 0 #14 December 7, 2007 But...but...but...they're disadvantaged minorities. Clearly it is societies fault for the oppression they have suffered that forced them into this act. Of course it can't be a hate crime; only whites commit those. My biggest handicap is that sometimes the hole in the front of my head operates a tad bit faster than the grey matter contained within. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #15 December 7, 2007 If Massachusetts has passed hate crime legislation (?) and if the crime (assault) is found to be motivated by racial hatred, then yes, it could be considered a hate crime. Who’s arguing it’s not? On Tuesday, a white woman and a white man were assaulted while riding on a Baltimore public bus by nine black middle school students. This case is being investigated as a hate crime. VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #16 December 7, 2007 QuoteI 100% agree, but then again I've not been on the recieving end of racial abuse.... maybe, I'd think differently if'n I had. Probably the most astute comment on this topic that has ever been written. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #17 December 7, 2007 I don't think anything should be a "hate crime". What matters is the crime, not the person's motivation (self defense excepted, of course). "Hate crime" amounts to putting someone's thoughts on trial. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites