ExAFO 0 #26 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #27 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #28 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok. Be as "Moral" as you want with what is yours, not with what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #29 December 7, 2007 stealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #30 December 7, 2007 Quotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #31 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #32 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok. Be as "Moral" as you want with what is yours, not with what is mine. I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #33 December 7, 2007 So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #34 December 7, 2007 that's not even close to realistic or possible. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #35 December 7, 2007 Quote I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish. Great. Believe what you want, and do what you want with what is yours. Just don't take what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #36 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur. I was trying to get him to empathize by using an analogy. Something you seem to be incapable of.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #37 December 7, 2007 Quotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #38 December 7, 2007 QuoteSo, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #39 December 7, 2007 What gives you the right to take from me and give to someone else to allow you some mental warm and fuzzy feeling?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #40 December 7, 2007 look dude, if you tell me that no matter how hard i work you are going to take my money away from me and give to someone who wants to sit on his ass and not work or give it to some bitch that's to stupid to use birth control and keeps shitting out kids, you are taking away my motivation to work hard. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #41 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written. You said moral...I said NO... liberal... But like most libs you gloss over the no. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #42 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't. i haven't been on the bottom rung, but i was close to it. it really sucks being poor. instead of sitting on my ass waiting for the government or someone else to help me, i recognized that something in my life wasn't working right and i made some changes. its my resposibility to take care of myself, not the government's or bill gates'. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #43 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? no....that would be the liberal thing to do. So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Somehow, I don't think that was your intended result. What actually happened there was you misrepresented his opinion. And somehow I think that was your intended result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2007 Let's get all moral then. Is it better to give a man a fish and feed him for a day or teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime? Does a person gain more motivation, better character and an appreciation of life by experiencing some discomfort, stress and pain (and I don't mean physical pain) or by constantly having everything "provide" for them? The problem with your philosophy is it is parasitic. Remove the host and it collapses under it's own weight. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #45 December 7, 2007 QuoteHowever, there is a massive difference between being gay and being a consumer of child porn. That's just sick all on its own.I dare say that he was born that way. It's only natural for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #46 December 7, 2007 QuoteBut when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Sure it would. Take half of your money and give it to a couple of people who are making half as much as you. Come back and tell us how that is working for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Moral thing to do? Who are you? Jerry Falwell? Anybody here notice the damned "religious" morality monks of the left? I don't dig on bible thumpers and I don't dig on manifesto thumpers. It may be YOUR morality to take from others. Not mine. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? 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KidWicked 0 #27 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #28 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok. Be as "Moral" as you want with what is yours, not with what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #29 December 7, 2007 stealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #30 December 7, 2007 Quotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #31 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #32 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok. Be as "Moral" as you want with what is yours, not with what is mine. I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #33 December 7, 2007 So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #34 December 7, 2007 that's not even close to realistic or possible. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #35 December 7, 2007 Quote I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish. Great. Believe what you want, and do what you want with what is yours. Just don't take what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #36 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur. I was trying to get him to empathize by using an analogy. Something you seem to be incapable of.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #37 December 7, 2007 Quotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #38 December 7, 2007 QuoteSo, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #39 December 7, 2007 What gives you the right to take from me and give to someone else to allow you some mental warm and fuzzy feeling?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #40 December 7, 2007 look dude, if you tell me that no matter how hard i work you are going to take my money away from me and give to someone who wants to sit on his ass and not work or give it to some bitch that's to stupid to use birth control and keeps shitting out kids, you are taking away my motivation to work hard. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #41 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written. You said moral...I said NO... liberal... But like most libs you gloss over the no. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #42 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't. i haven't been on the bottom rung, but i was close to it. it really sucks being poor. instead of sitting on my ass waiting for the government or someone else to help me, i recognized that something in my life wasn't working right and i made some changes. its my resposibility to take care of myself, not the government's or bill gates'. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #43 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? no....that would be the liberal thing to do. So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Somehow, I don't think that was your intended result. What actually happened there was you misrepresented his opinion. And somehow I think that was your intended result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2007 Let's get all moral then. Is it better to give a man a fish and feed him for a day or teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime? Does a person gain more motivation, better character and an appreciation of life by experiencing some discomfort, stress and pain (and I don't mean physical pain) or by constantly having everything "provide" for them? The problem with your philosophy is it is parasitic. Remove the host and it collapses under it's own weight. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #45 December 7, 2007 QuoteHowever, there is a massive difference between being gay and being a consumer of child porn. That's just sick all on its own.I dare say that he was born that way. It's only natural for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #46 December 7, 2007 QuoteBut when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Sure it would. Take half of your money and give it to a couple of people who are making half as much as you. Come back and tell us how that is working for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Moral thing to do? Who are you? Jerry Falwell? Anybody here notice the damned "religious" morality monks of the left? I don't dig on bible thumpers and I don't dig on manifesto thumpers. It may be YOUR morality to take from others. Not mine. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? 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ExAFO 0 #28 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok. Be as "Moral" as you want with what is yours, not with what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #29 December 7, 2007 stealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #30 December 7, 2007 Quotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #31 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #32 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok. Be as "Moral" as you want with what is yours, not with what is mine. I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #33 December 7, 2007 So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #34 December 7, 2007 that's not even close to realistic or possible. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #35 December 7, 2007 Quote I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish. Great. Believe what you want, and do what you want with what is yours. Just don't take what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #36 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur. I was trying to get him to empathize by using an analogy. Something you seem to be incapable of.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #37 December 7, 2007 Quotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #38 December 7, 2007 QuoteSo, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #39 December 7, 2007 What gives you the right to take from me and give to someone else to allow you some mental warm and fuzzy feeling?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #40 December 7, 2007 look dude, if you tell me that no matter how hard i work you are going to take my money away from me and give to someone who wants to sit on his ass and not work or give it to some bitch that's to stupid to use birth control and keeps shitting out kids, you are taking away my motivation to work hard. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #41 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written. You said moral...I said NO... liberal... But like most libs you gloss over the no. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #42 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't. i haven't been on the bottom rung, but i was close to it. it really sucks being poor. instead of sitting on my ass waiting for the government or someone else to help me, i recognized that something in my life wasn't working right and i made some changes. its my resposibility to take care of myself, not the government's or bill gates'. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #43 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? no....that would be the liberal thing to do. So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Somehow, I don't think that was your intended result. What actually happened there was you misrepresented his opinion. And somehow I think that was your intended result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2007 Let's get all moral then. Is it better to give a man a fish and feed him for a day or teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime? Does a person gain more motivation, better character and an appreciation of life by experiencing some discomfort, stress and pain (and I don't mean physical pain) or by constantly having everything "provide" for them? The problem with your philosophy is it is parasitic. Remove the host and it collapses under it's own weight. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #45 December 7, 2007 QuoteHowever, there is a massive difference between being gay and being a consumer of child porn. That's just sick all on its own.I dare say that he was born that way. It's only natural for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #46 December 7, 2007 QuoteBut when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Sure it would. Take half of your money and give it to a couple of people who are making half as much as you. Come back and tell us how that is working for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Moral thing to do? Who are you? Jerry Falwell? Anybody here notice the damned "religious" morality monks of the left? I don't dig on bible thumpers and I don't dig on manifesto thumpers. It may be YOUR morality to take from others. Not mine. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? 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TrophyHusband 0 #29 December 7, 2007 stealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #30 December 7, 2007 Quotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position?Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #31 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #32 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? No. What is mine is mine, not yours. Your bleeding heart/guilt complex is not my problem, nor should it pick my pocket. "No" as in, taking a course of action that would alleviate suffering is not a moral action? Er, ok. Be as "Moral" as you want with what is yours, not with what is mine. I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #33 December 7, 2007 So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #34 December 7, 2007 that's not even close to realistic or possible. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #35 December 7, 2007 Quote I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish. Great. Believe what you want, and do what you want with what is yours. Just don't take what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #36 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur. I was trying to get him to empathize by using an analogy. Something you seem to be incapable of.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #37 December 7, 2007 Quotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #38 December 7, 2007 QuoteSo, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #39 December 7, 2007 What gives you the right to take from me and give to someone else to allow you some mental warm and fuzzy feeling?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #40 December 7, 2007 look dude, if you tell me that no matter how hard i work you are going to take my money away from me and give to someone who wants to sit on his ass and not work or give it to some bitch that's to stupid to use birth control and keeps shitting out kids, you are taking away my motivation to work hard. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #41 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written. You said moral...I said NO... liberal... But like most libs you gloss over the no. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #42 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't. i haven't been on the bottom rung, but i was close to it. it really sucks being poor. instead of sitting on my ass waiting for the government or someone else to help me, i recognized that something in my life wasn't working right and i made some changes. its my resposibility to take care of myself, not the government's or bill gates'. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #43 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? no....that would be the liberal thing to do. So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Somehow, I don't think that was your intended result. What actually happened there was you misrepresented his opinion. And somehow I think that was your intended result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2007 Let's get all moral then. Is it better to give a man a fish and feed him for a day or teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime? Does a person gain more motivation, better character and an appreciation of life by experiencing some discomfort, stress and pain (and I don't mean physical pain) or by constantly having everything "provide" for them? The problem with your philosophy is it is parasitic. Remove the host and it collapses under it's own weight. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #45 December 7, 2007 QuoteHowever, there is a massive difference between being gay and being a consumer of child porn. That's just sick all on its own.I dare say that he was born that way. It's only natural for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #46 December 7, 2007 QuoteBut when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Sure it would. Take half of your money and give it to a couple of people who are making half as much as you. Come back and tell us how that is working for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Moral thing to do? Who are you? Jerry Falwell? Anybody here notice the damned "religious" morality monks of the left? I don't dig on bible thumpers and I don't dig on manifesto thumpers. It may be YOUR morality to take from others. Not mine. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? Progressing away from bigotry and hatred wrapped in the American flag.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
airtwardo 7 #33 December 7, 2007 So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #34 December 7, 2007 that's not even close to realistic or possible. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #35 December 7, 2007 Quote I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish. Great. Believe what you want, and do what you want with what is yours. Just don't take what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #36 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur. I was trying to get him to empathize by using an analogy. Something you seem to be incapable of.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #37 December 7, 2007 Quotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites KidWicked 0 #38 December 7, 2007 QuoteSo, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #39 December 7, 2007 What gives you the right to take from me and give to someone else to allow you some mental warm and fuzzy feeling?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #40 December 7, 2007 look dude, if you tell me that no matter how hard i work you are going to take my money away from me and give to someone who wants to sit on his ass and not work or give it to some bitch that's to stupid to use birth control and keeps shitting out kids, you are taking away my motivation to work hard. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #41 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written. You said moral...I said NO... liberal... But like most libs you gloss over the no. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #42 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't. i haven't been on the bottom rung, but i was close to it. it really sucks being poor. instead of sitting on my ass waiting for the government or someone else to help me, i recognized that something in my life wasn't working right and i made some changes. its my resposibility to take care of myself, not the government's or bill gates'. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #43 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? no....that would be the liberal thing to do. So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Somehow, I don't think that was your intended result. What actually happened there was you misrepresented his opinion. And somehow I think that was your intended result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2007 Let's get all moral then. Is it better to give a man a fish and feed him for a day or teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime? Does a person gain more motivation, better character and an appreciation of life by experiencing some discomfort, stress and pain (and I don't mean physical pain) or by constantly having everything "provide" for them? The problem with your philosophy is it is parasitic. Remove the host and it collapses under it's own weight. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #45 December 7, 2007 QuoteHowever, there is a massive difference between being gay and being a consumer of child porn. That's just sick all on its own.I dare say that he was born that way. It's only natural for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #46 December 7, 2007 QuoteBut when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Sure it would. Take half of your money and give it to a couple of people who are making half as much as you. Come back and tell us how that is working for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Moral thing to do? Who are you? Jerry Falwell? Anybody here notice the damned "religious" morality monks of the left? I don't dig on bible thumpers and I don't dig on manifesto thumpers. It may be YOUR morality to take from others. Not mine. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? Progressing away from bigotry and hatred wrapped in the American flag.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0 Go To Topic Listing
TrophyHusband 0 #34 December 7, 2007 that's not even close to realistic or possible. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ExAFO 0 #35 December 7, 2007 Quote I believe the basic human needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, that's all. To be otherwise seems selfish. Great. Believe what you want, and do what you want with what is yours. Just don't take what is mine.Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #36 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuotestealing from the rich to give to the poor is still stealing and last i check it is not moral. if you think its the moral thing to do to give your money to the poor, be my guest, but you have no right to tell me that i have to give a penny of my money to anyone. if you're so moral, sell your computer and use the money to feed the homeless. Let's say that 99.9% of the worlds wealth was held by Bill Gates, and your family was destitute as a result - would you hold the same position? Non-sequitur. I was trying to get him to empathize by using an analogy. Something you seem to be incapable of.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #37 December 7, 2007 Quotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #38 December 7, 2007 QuoteSo, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites ExAFO 0 #39 December 7, 2007 What gives you the right to take from me and give to someone else to allow you some mental warm and fuzzy feeling?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #40 December 7, 2007 look dude, if you tell me that no matter how hard i work you are going to take my money away from me and give to someone who wants to sit on his ass and not work or give it to some bitch that's to stupid to use birth control and keeps shitting out kids, you are taking away my motivation to work hard. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites airtwardo 7 #41 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written. You said moral...I said NO... liberal... But like most libs you gloss over the no. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites TrophyHusband 0 #42 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't. i haven't been on the bottom rung, but i was close to it. it really sucks being poor. instead of sitting on my ass waiting for the government or someone else to help me, i recognized that something in my life wasn't working right and i made some changes. its my resposibility to take care of myself, not the government's or bill gates'. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites champu 1 #43 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? no....that would be the liberal thing to do. So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Somehow, I don't think that was your intended result. What actually happened there was you misrepresented his opinion. And somehow I think that was your intended result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2007 Let's get all moral then. Is it better to give a man a fish and feed him for a day or teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime? Does a person gain more motivation, better character and an appreciation of life by experiencing some discomfort, stress and pain (and I don't mean physical pain) or by constantly having everything "provide" for them? The problem with your philosophy is it is parasitic. Remove the host and it collapses under it's own weight. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #45 December 7, 2007 QuoteHowever, there is a massive difference between being gay and being a consumer of child porn. That's just sick all on its own.I dare say that he was born that way. It's only natural for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Royd 0 #46 December 7, 2007 QuoteBut when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Sure it would. Take half of your money and give it to a couple of people who are making half as much as you. Come back and tell us how that is working for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites lawrocket 3 #47 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Moral thing to do? Who are you? Jerry Falwell? Anybody here notice the damned "religious" morality monks of the left? I don't dig on bible thumpers and I don't dig on manifesto thumpers. It may be YOUR morality to take from others. Not mine. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? 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ExAFO 0 #39 December 7, 2007 What gives you the right to take from me and give to someone else to allow you some mental warm and fuzzy feeling?Illinois needs a CCW Law. NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #40 December 7, 2007 look dude, if you tell me that no matter how hard i work you are going to take my money away from me and give to someone who wants to sit on his ass and not work or give it to some bitch that's to stupid to use birth control and keeps shitting out kids, you are taking away my motivation to work hard. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
airtwardo 7 #41 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Quote No I don't, but funny you would jump to THAT conclusion.... SAD....but funny too. You give the overwhelming impression of someone who doesn't understand the logic of what they themselves have written. You said moral...I said NO... liberal... But like most libs you gloss over the no. ~ If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn? ~ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrophyHusband 0 #42 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuotethat's not even close to realistic or possible. The idea was to try to get you to put yourself in someone elses shoe's - to think about what it would feel like to be on the bottom rung. I'm sorry you couldn't. i haven't been on the bottom rung, but i was close to it. it really sucks being poor. instead of sitting on my ass waiting for the government or someone else to help me, i recognized that something in my life wasn't working right and i made some changes. its my resposibility to take care of myself, not the government's or bill gates'. "Your scrotum is quite nice" - Skymama www.kjandmegan.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
champu 1 #43 December 7, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? no....that would be the liberal thing to do. So, you equate liberalism with moral action. Somehow, I don't think that was your intended result. What actually happened there was you misrepresented his opinion. And somehow I think that was your intended result. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #44 December 7, 2007 Let's get all moral then. Is it better to give a man a fish and feed him for a day or teach him to fish and feed him for a lifetime? Does a person gain more motivation, better character and an appreciation of life by experiencing some discomfort, stress and pain (and I don't mean physical pain) or by constantly having everything "provide" for them? The problem with your philosophy is it is parasitic. Remove the host and it collapses under it's own weight. . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #45 December 7, 2007 QuoteHowever, there is a massive difference between being gay and being a consumer of child porn. That's just sick all on its own.I dare say that he was born that way. It's only natural for him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #46 December 7, 2007 QuoteBut when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Sure it would. Take half of your money and give it to a couple of people who are making half as much as you. Come back and tell us how that is working for you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #47 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteredistrbution of wealth. Why is that bad? What's mine is mine. Not yours. But when the majority of wealth is held by a disproportionately small number of people, and that causes considerable suffering to the majority, why not redistribute wealth to some degree? Wouldn't that be the moral thing to do? Moral thing to do? Who are you? Jerry Falwell? Anybody here notice the damned "religious" morality monks of the left? I don't dig on bible thumpers and I don't dig on manifesto thumpers. It may be YOUR morality to take from others. Not mine. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? Progressing away from bigotry and hatred wrapped in the American flag.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 5 Next Page 2 of 5 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible. Reply to this topic... × Pasted as rich text. Paste as plain text instead Only 75 emoji are allowed. × Your link has been automatically embedded. Display as a link instead × Your previous content has been restored. Clear editor × You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. Insert image from URL × Desktop Tablet Phone Submit Reply 0
billvon 3,090 #48 December 7, 2007 >but from what i can tell they want socialism, nanny states and redistrbution of wealth. Who is "they?" Liberals? Democrats? Progressives? People against child porn? None of those four are equal. Progressive from dictionary.com: 1. favoring or advocating progress, change, improvement, or reform, as opposed to wishing to maintain things as they are, esp. in political matters: a progressive mayor. 2. making progress toward better conditions; employing or advocating more enlightened or liberal ideas, new or experimental methods, etc.: a progressive community. 3. characterized by such progress, or by continuous improvement. Nothing in there about redistribution of wealth. That would be socialism, which is a fifth group, not equal to any of the above four. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gravitymaster 0 #49 December 7, 2007 So now you are using adjectives as a noun? Here's a definition of Progressive when properly used as a noun" "continuously increasing in extent or severity, as a disease. " –noun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #50 December 7, 2007 QuoteQuote"On KGO, however, his liberal rantings have found a substantial following in the nation's most left- leaning region, making him one of the few "progressive" talkers to succeed on a long term basis. In fact, some observers wondered why Ward was not a part of Air America's initial lineup. I always thought the term "progressive" was complete BS anyway. What exactly are they progressing towards? Lately? Progressing away from bigotry and hatred wrapped in the American flag.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
