kallend 2,113 #51 December 7, 2007 Quote Nutin' IN Illinois worth stealing! If you say so. But it may reflect on your values as much as on our property.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #52 July 1, 2008 He has been cleared: http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/06/30/burglary.shooting.ap/index.html?eref=rss_topstories"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #53 July 1, 2008 No big deal.....I thought if anyone was shot in Texas... it was because they needed to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #54 July 1, 2008 Quote Bottom line, if you break into someone's house, you might get shot. You should get shot. Dead.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #55 July 1, 2008 Quote I mentioned that, here in Texas, someone is running away with your stuff in their hot sweaty little hands can be shot. Here in New York, you have a "right to retreat". Unfucking believable.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #56 July 1, 2008 QuoteQuote I mentioned that, here in Texas, someone is running away with your stuff in their hot sweaty little hands can be shot. Here in New York, you have a "right to retreat". Unfucking believable. In some states, your home really *isn't* your castle...unfortunately.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #57 July 2, 2008 I really, really wish people in these situations would learn to shut up. What he did was probably lawful, if the media reporting is correct. However, making statements to ANYONE, especially the police or the media, is a good way to set yourself up to be prosecuted or sued by the family of the guy you shot. If there's no statements other than those made by his lawyer (hearsay), there's nothing to use legally other than the facts of the investigation. If you throw personal statements into the mix, all bets are off, especially since the human memory can be faulty and people start making statements that can be twisted to appear contradictory, which makes the prosecutors and attorneys think the person is being less than truthful. In a situation like this, there should be ONE statement made: to his attorney, and anything additional should be with his attorney present. Real life example from my own life: My mom is driving her car, and from out of nowhere, a kid on a bike comes out of the bushes and crosses the middle of an intersection against a solid red light, weaves through two cars and runs into the side of her car. Slam dunk... she's not at fault, right? Wrong. She pulls over, a witness calls 911, cops and paramedics show up. Kid goes away in an ambulance. Now she makes her mistake: she starts talking. Cop asks about visibility. She says "when I left work, the windshield was fogged, but by the time of the accident, it was fine." What ends up in the police report: "Driver says windshield was fogged up." The kid's health insurance company is suing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #58 July 2, 2008 Quote However, making statements to ANYONE, especially the police or the media, is a good way to set yourself up to be prosecuted or sued by the family of the guy you shot. I will remember that.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJL 235 #59 July 2, 2008 QuoteQuoteShould an employer (if any) of said illegal be considered an accessory to the crime if it could be shown that the employer knew the person's status? The employer of someone who commits a crime is guilty of nothing. According to most employers, using the internet at work hours stealing. Can an employer in Texas shoot his employees if they're at work at night and using the internet?"I encourage all awesome dangerous behavior." - Jeffro Fincher Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BillyVance 34 #60 July 2, 2008 Quote Quote Quote Should an employer (if any) of said illegal be considered an accessory to the crime if it could be shown that the employer knew the person's status? The employer of someone who commits a crime is guilty of nothing. According to most employers, using the internet at work hours stealing. Can an employer in Texas shoot his employees if they're at work at night and using the internet? Only if they were surfing porn and jacking off. "Mediocre people don't like high achievers, and high achievers don't like mediocre people." - SIX TIME National Champion coach Nick Saban Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #61 July 2, 2008 The right to retreat? Am I understanding that right? You are referring to the home owner? If that's the case, that's NUTZ! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,113 #62 July 2, 2008 Quote Quote I mentioned that, here in Texas, someone is running away with your stuff in their hot sweaty little hands can be shot. Here in New York, you have a "right to retreat". Unfucking believable. Sorry, that is grammatically incorrect. In your last sentence, "fucking" is a tmesis (or expletive infix) in the word "unbelievable" (which already has "un-" as a prefix). Hence it should be: "Unfuckingbelievable." Other examples of words with tmesis: infuckingcredible, abloodymazing, absofuckinglutely, fanbloodytastic, kangabloodyroo, awholenother. Just don't do it again, OK?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryoder 1,590 #63 July 2, 2008 QuoteQuote I mentioned that, here in Texas, someone is running away with your stuff in their hot sweaty little hands can be shot. Here in New York, you have a "right to retreat". Unfucking believable. I think you mean "duty to retreat", i.e. if there was any possible way to avoid the confrontation, and you did not take it, your claim to self-defense can be denied. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_defence_(theory)#Legal_status_of_self_defense"There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,113 #64 July 2, 2008 QuoteQuoteShould an employer (if any) of said illegal be considered an accessory to the crime if it could be shown that the employer knew the person's status? The employer of someone who commits a crime is guilty of nothing. If the "someone" is known to be an illegal alien by the employer, then the employer is certainly guilty of something. Enabling criminals to come the the US by illegally offering them jobs is clearly enabling the crimes that they commit while here.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #65 July 2, 2008 Quote The right to retreat? Am I understanding that right? Yep. Verbatim quote from the chief of detectives in my town.We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StreetScooby 5 #66 July 2, 2008 Quote Just don't do it again, OK? absofuckinglutely We are all engines of karma Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterrig 1 #67 July 3, 2008 Quote Quote The right to retreat? Am I understanding that right? Yep. Verbatim quote from the chief of detectives in my town. That dog don't hunt, here in Texas! Chuck Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #68 July 8, 2008 Update: "Ever since he fatally shot two men he suspected of burglarizing his next-door neighbor's home, 62-year-old Joe Horn has been both praised and vilified for his actions... "After listening to evidence in the case, including testimony from Horn himself, a grand jury on Monday cleared him of the shootings. "The grand jury concluded that Mr. Horn's use of deadly force did not rise to a criminal offense..."Source: Houston Chronicle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
longtall 0 #69 July 9, 2008 Where were the police ?" 90 right, five miles then cut."---Pukin Buzzards Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #70 July 9, 2008 Quote Quote I found out too, from the case I mentioned that, here in Texas, someone is running away with your stuff in their hot sweaty little hands can be shot. Careful there, you're going to get someone in trouble. This is only legal in Texas at night. Do it in the day time, and you could be charged with murder. Of course, shoot the blighter in broad daylight? Wheres the sport in that?!! Jolly good show i rather like the sound of Texas.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JohnRich 4 #71 July 9, 2008 QuoteWhere were the police? They showed up late enough only to arrest the good guy for shooting the bad guys. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
