Zipp0 1 #51 December 5, 2007 QuoteQuoteTaking your child to the police is not abandonment. She took the kid to a place she felt the child would be safe - something an abuser would not do. abandonment = abuse to me. Esp if plan B was the dumpster or the bay or the nearest Denny's. So, the police should assume that she was going to kill the kid and tase her? So, I guess they are now the thought police? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,150 #52 December 5, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteTaking your child to the police is not abandonment. She took the kid to a place she felt the child would be safe - something an abuser would not do. abandonment = abuse to me. Esp if plan B was the dumpster or the bay or the nearest Denny's. So, the police should assume that she was going to kill the kid and tase her? So, I guess they are now the thought police? Tom Cruise could do it.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #53 December 5, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteTaking your child to the police is not abandonment. She took the kid to a place she felt the child would be safe - something an abuser would not do. abandonment = abuse to me. Esp if plan B was the dumpster or the bay or the nearest Denny's. So, the police should assume that she was going to kill the kid and tase her? So, I guess they are now the thought police? They have to act in the interests of the child. I've tried to explain this to you 3 times. When in doubt they must act to protect the child. If you tell a teacher or a police officer that you were molested at home, they have to report it. They aren't supposed to decide if you're better off with your bad parents, they are directed to escalate. Inaction translates to no solution. A woman comes in, wants to dump her kid, then abruptly decides to leave and becomes uncooperative. Why the fuck do you presume that she's going to act in the interest of the child rather than herself? If she had said she is going to talk with her mother, or with her church, or someone that can take custody of the child, that would be satisfactory. On a aside, these are the sort of people that make you think about forced sterilization, both for the mother and the fathers that impregnate her. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #54 December 5, 2007 QuoteQuoteQuoteQuoteTaking your child to the police is not abandonment. She took the kid to a place she felt the child would be safe - something an abuser would not do. abandonment = abuse to me. Esp if plan B was the dumpster or the bay or the nearest Denny's. So, the police should assume that she was going to kill the kid and tase her? So, I guess they are now the thought police? They have to act in the interests of the child. I've tried to explain this to you 3 times. When in doubt they must act to protect the child. If you tell a teacher or a police officer that you were molested at home, they have to report it. They aren't supposed to decide if you're better off with your bad parents, they are directed to escalate. Inaction translates to no solution. A woman comes in, wants to dump her kid, then abruptly decides to leave and becomes uncooperative. Why the fuck do you presume that she's going to act in the interest of the child rather than herself? If she had said she is going to talk with her mother, or with her church, or someone that can take custody of the child, that would be satisfactory. On a aside, these are the sort of people that make you think about forced sterilization, both for the mother and the fathers that impregnate her. Why do YOU assume that she is not going to act in the child's interests? Can police take your children away simply because you are "uncooperative"?? That sets a very, very dangerous precedent. And I understand perfectly what you are "trying to explain to me", I just think you are wrong. I guess everyone always agrees with you? -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #55 December 5, 2007 Quote And I understand perfectly what you are "trying to explain to me", I just think you are wrong. I guess everyone always agrees with you? Hell at this point I think all the guys thinking this was a good thing...... need to have a taser attached to their fucking nutsacks... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #56 December 6, 2007 Quote Why do YOU assume that she is not going to act in the child's interests? Can police take your children away simply because you are "uncooperative"?? That sets a very, very dangerous precedent. They didn't take her children away for that reason. They merely tried to detain her and get her to answer the questions to determine if there was risk. No response means yes, there is. The need to take the children away stems from the fact that she showed up to drop one off, and as it turns out, has another one coming. I'm quite confident it is in the child's interest to do what she came into the station for - for the cops to relieve her of her burden. People don't have to agree with me, and on some cases they're allowed to have different opinions. But not here. So bow down already, child killer. Send me an address so I can give you a NAMBLA membership too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,120 #57 December 6, 2007 >I'm quite confident it is in the child's interest to do what she came into >the station for - for the cops to relieve her of her burden. You don't know that; you are as much in the dark about what happened as everyone else here. When there is any doubt, you do not attack the woman/child. The parents are, and always should be, the protector of the child, and you should always err on the side of allowing them to raise their kids their way unless there are clear signs of abuse. That includes letting them change their minds about whether or not to give a child to police for safekeeping. They are investigating whether excessive force was used, which is exactly what should happen in a case like this. Good for them. >Send me an address so I can give you a NAMBLA membership too. Nice! Should someone send you a few wifebeater T-shirts? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #58 December 6, 2007 Quote >Send me an address so I can give you a NAMBLA membership too. Nice! Should someone send you a few wifebeater T-shirts? Sure, if they got them in L. Black preferred over white. Perfect for the cool but not cold days at home. Then send me over the wife too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
