rehmwa 2 #26 November 28, 2007 Is it blasphemy? that's subjective 1 - each person decides if it is or not 2 - if they do and that bothers them then they shouldn't see it problem solved - if any group wants to call for a boycott, that's their business. Individuals still have to show up at the theator and buy a ticket. Thoughts? I don't care much either way. I'm just glad there are no more countries in the world that would outlaw it or stuff like it, or give lashings to anyone that sees it or talks about it...... ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #27 November 28, 2007 Quote It's a WAR ON CHRISTIANITY I tell you! It never ceases to amaze me.. that a group... as a whole... who discriminates and persecutes people of so many different religions etc...... is always SOOOO paranoid about ANYTHING that diverges from their dogma.... and they feel they are being persecuted Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #28 November 28, 2007 QuoteQuoteNames? I called you Americans. That's "Yank" to you, Limey. QuoteStupid language? You use the words "Northern Lights" to describe the Aurora Borealis don't you? Yes. They are found in the north and are effective as lights. Thus, "Northern Lights." People pretty much know what you are talking about. It's like calling you a dude versus a masculine homo sapien sapien. We make the point in one freaking syllable. Also note, we don't call them "nourthern lights." We've eliminated all unnecessary letters. Ain't it sweet to advance language? QuoteDude, you're not making much sense here You use the word "dude" to describe a homo sapien spaien don't you?" I am utterly in the dark (or unlighted, if you prefer) of what point you are trying to make. I just think it's a crap change to the real title of the book. Quade was the one who waded in with all this language stuff. I didn't know what point he was trying to make either.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #29 November 28, 2007 Quote I just think it's a crap change to the real title of the book. Quade was the one who waded in with all this language stuff. I didn't know what point he was trying to make either. Perhaps it was lost in translation from English to English. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #30 November 28, 2007 Quote Quote I just think it's a crap change to the real title of the book. Quade was the one who waded in with all this language stuff. I didn't know what point he was trying to make either. Perhaps it was lost in translation from English to English. Nah. You were just talking bollocksDo you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaerodyne 0 #31 November 28, 2007 I dont post in SP, but I have to comment on this, I also have not cared to read all the responses, so i might be duplicating other posts or comments. It's a book, written in a fictional sense. Do we now need to boycott books that have serial killers, rapists and political figures that are based on fiction. In the end we all get to make the choice to either see the movie or not. I don't see the "church" getting all up in arms about movies and books about child abuse ... glass house, stones .... ring a bell Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #32 November 28, 2007 Quote It's a book, written in a fictional sense. Do we now need to boycott books that have serial killers, rapists and political figures that are based on fiction. In the end we all get to make the choice to either see the movie or not. I'm not particularly bothered about some catholic league calling for boycotts of the film - let's face it, Phillip Pullman does not depict the Church in a very friendly lightHowever, you post reminded me of a review of Stardust I saw by some other wierd christian families group. A lot of their criticisms were standard (witchcraft, fighting, murder etc.) but one thing they banged on about really confused me. One of their major critiques was that none of the female characters were depicted as mothers, or positive mothering figures! WTF, is every single film made supposed to be a 'how to' manual of the perfect life in suburbia or something? Have these people never heard of escapist entertainment? Bonkers.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaerodyne 0 #33 November 28, 2007 QuoteWTF, is every single film made supposed to be a 'how to' manual of the perfect life in suburbia or something? Have these people never heard of escapist entertainment? Bunch of Muppets Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coreece 190 #34 November 28, 2007 QuoteWell, we all remember how the Catholics were able to bring down that other anti-christian film/book "The Da Vinci Code." They will probably have about the same luck with this one. They should save their energy for the other Dan Brown book going movie,"Angels and Demons"...in this one he directly attacks the Pope and the Vatican...I don't think they'll like it too much. I think this movie will make the "golden compass" look like what it actually is...a fantasy set in an imaginary world...no different than Narnia.Your secrets are the true reflection of who you really are... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #35 November 28, 2007 Quote...no different than Narnia. good example - I read the Narnia stories. Really enjoyed the first few, but then they started getting REALLY sickly sweet religious in tone and symbolism. It turned me off enough I just put the book down and stopped. I have the same response to hollywood "preaching" in movies on any topic (religious, anti-religious, enviro, self loathing, or otherwise). I'd rather think for myself than nod along with some obtuse intellectually deficient preaching in some movies of today. And that goes for themes I agree with or disagree with. They lose me when, instead of entertaining me, they presume to try to 'educate' the world. That's why I walked out on both Spaceballs, and Fargo. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #36 November 28, 2007 I've never been very religious, even as a third grader, when I started reading the Narnia series. I didn't pick up on any religious tones at all. I didn't see it as a commentary on god or the role of religion. I didn't see Aslan as a religious/Jesus figure. I saw it for what it was to me, and what it still is: a damn good book. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zipp0 1 #37 November 28, 2007 QuoteQuote...no different than Narnia. good example - I read the Narnia stories. Really enjoyed the first few, but then they started getting REALLY sickly sweet religious in tone and symbolism. It turned me off enough I just put the book down and stopped. I have the same response to hollywood "preaching" in movies on any topic (religious, anti-religious, enviro, self loathing, or otherwise). I'd rather think for myself than nod along with some obtuse intellectually deficient preaching in some movies of today. And that goes for themes I agree with or disagree with. They lose me when, instead of entertaining me, they presume to try to 'educate' the world. That's why I walked out on both Spaceballs, and Fargo. Awwww Yeah, Boyee! Lazy Sunday Wake up in the late afternoon Call Parnell just to see how he's doin' Hello? What up, Parn! Yo Samberg, what's crackin'? You thinkin' what I'm thinkin'? Narnia! Man it's happ'nin'! But first, my hunger pangs are stickin' like duct tape. Let's hit up Magnolia and mack on some cupcakes. No doubt, that bakery's got all the bomb frostings. I love those cupcakes like McAdams loves Gosling. Two! No, Six! No, Twelve! Baker's Dozen! I told'ja that I'm crazy for these cupcakes, cousin! Yo, where's the movie playin'? Upper West Side, dude! Let's hit up Yahoo Maps to find the dopest route. I prefer Mapquest! That's a good one too. Google Maps is the best! True that! Double true! 68th and Broadway. Step on it, sucka! What you wanna do Chris? snack attack, mutha----! Hit the Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! Yes, the Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! We love that Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! Pass that Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! Yo, stop at the deli. The theatre is overpriced! You got that backpack I'm going to pack it up nice. We don't want security to get suspicious! Mr. Pibbs and Red Vines equals crazy delicious. Yo, reach in my pocket and pull out some dough, Girl acted like she never seen a $10 before! It's all about the Hamiltons baby Throw the snacks in a bag and I'm Ghost like Swayze. Roll up to the theatre Ticket buying what we're handling, You can call us Aaron Burr from the way we're dropping Hamiltons Parked in our seats movie trivia's the illest! "What Friends alum starred in films with Bruce Willis?" We answered so fast, it was scary: Everyone stared in awe when we screamed "Matthew Perry!" Then quiet in the theatre or it's gonna get tragic We're about to be taken to a dream world of magic In the Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! Yes, the Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! We love that Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! Pass that Chronic-what?-cles of Narnia! -------------------------- Chuck Norris doesn't do push-ups, he pushes the Earth down. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,151 #38 November 28, 2007 Quote That's why I walked out on both Spaceballs, and Fargo. Couldn't take the redundant sesquipedalianisms, eh?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #39 November 28, 2007 Quotewhen I started reading the Narnia series.....a damn good book. Yeah, when I 'started' the series it was pretty cool for the first few books did you read the last couple books? or just 'started' the series I mean, c'mon - they weren't subtle about it one bit - they directly came out and said Aslan = Jesus ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #40 November 28, 2007 QuoteQuote That's why I walked out on both Spaceballs, and Fargo. Couldn't take the redundant sesquipedalianisms, eh? do not swim for 30 minutes after some oily staining occurred in test subjects the most common side effect is headache and dry mouth your results may vary ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nightingale 0 #41 November 29, 2007 QuoteQuotewhen I started reading the Narnia series.....a damn good book. Yeah, when I 'started' the series it was pretty cool for the first few books did you read the last couple books? or just 'started' the series I mean, c'mon - they weren't subtle about it one bit - they directly came out and said Aslan = Jesus I read the whole series, and still didn't pick up on the religious stuff. But then, I was a third grader. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #42 November 29, 2007 I read the books but I don't remember that ending.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #43 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote So not really relevant at all then, unless the US still holds a grudge that it can only express through devious changes to book titles. Damn, that would be wierd. Just don't call us names and we won't have to point out what a stupid language it was to begin with! Well at least its not SpanishWhen an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jakee 1,596 #44 November 29, 2007 QuoteI read the books but I don't remember that ending. It happens a fair bit before the end of the third book. Some of Metatron's angels are carrying the Authority to safety in his protective bubble - Will and Lyra use the knife to cut him free and he dies as the wind blows him apart.Do you want to have an ideagasm? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skyrad 0 #45 November 30, 2007 Ah yes I remember now.When an author is too meticulous about his style, you may presume that his mind is frivolous and his content flimsy. Lucius Annaeus Seneca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andy9o8 2 #46 December 4, 2007 QuoteIs 'Golden Compass' 'selling atheism to kids'? ...the movie already has been condemned by conservative Roman Catholics and evangelicals. They say it will hook children into Pullman's books and a dark, individualistic world where all religion is evil. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/Movies/12/03/golden.compass.religion.ap/index.html Oh, ok. As if there's nothing else, every December, designed to hook children in. 24/7. It's all about equal time. As in, nobody wants anyone else to have even a little bit of it. Oh, and apparently "Dakota" is now a popular name for girls. I guess. Yawn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
crwtom 0 #47 December 4, 2007 Quote Thoughts? There are tons of movies out there overtly promoting Christian and anti-atheism messages. When was the last time an atheist league (or whatever) has made a huge stink like this with calls for boycotts etc about one of those religious movies? Tells you who is the more arrogant about their own world views of the two. Cheers, T ******************************************************************* Fear causes hesitation, and hesitation will cause your worst fears to come true Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
