livendive 8 #101 November 28, 2007 Quote Everyone running like cowards from the question: WHAT IF HILLARY WINS THE PRIMARY, WILL YOU ACTUALLY BRING YOURSELF TO VOTING FOR THE gaRbage? If Hillary wins the Democratic primary, and Ron Paul doesn't win the Republican primary, I will likely look to the Libertarian party to put up someone worthy of my vote. Or maybe I'll write in Obama, Ron Paul, or myself. I'm quite prone to writing in names of people who haven't made the ballot when the printed candidates aren't worthy of my vote. Every time Doc Hastings runs for re-election, the Democrats concede the race before it even begins and put up a crappy candidate. In those races, I write my own name in against Mr. Hastings. Maybe I'll beat him one of these days. I think I got double digit votes last time. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #102 November 28, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I don't think Hillary is electable in the general election, because as we see in this very forum and this very thread, there are simply too many bigots out there. You know, professor, I personally resent that statement. So if she were a man, how many more votes would she get? It's hard to find an analogue because her history as First Lady/Co-President is certainly part of the dislike for her. But Charles Schumer is the other Senator, and we don't like him much better. The question to ask is how many women are voting for her exclusively because she is the first female candidate to run? Do those sexists outnumber the opposing sexists? Probably. It's like saying that people wouldn't vote for Jesse Jackson because they are bigots. Meanwhile, Colin Powell could have been elected president while Jesse Jackson could not. A VERY large percentage of people who wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton WOULD vote for Cunnilingus Rice. Notably, nearly all people who WOULD vote for Hillary WOULD NOT vote for Condi Rice. It would not be for racist reasons - it would be for a philosophical reason. Note, I would vote for neither Condi Rice nor Hillary - I tend to agree with neither. My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #103 November 28, 2007 QuoteI don't think Hillary is electable in the general election, because as we see in this very forum and this very thread, there are simply too many bigots out there. I haven't met too many people who aren't bigoted, unless they are just too simple to have an opinion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #104 November 28, 2007 And as a follow-up, I've yet to encounter a bigot that couldn't rationalize their bigotry and take offense when it was pointed out. ... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #105 November 28, 2007 Quote And as a follow-up, I've yet to encounter a bigot that couldn't rationalize their bigotry and take offense when it was pointed out. Well then, you will understand why I am calling you an ass. Winky eye or not"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #106 November 28, 2007 Quote And as a follow-up, I've yet to encounter a bigot that couldn't rationalize their bigotry and take offense when it was pointed out. Hillary and the Shrub both grate on my nerves. Please explain how saying so indicates my bigotry for women but not men. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Royd 0 #107 November 28, 2007 And as a follow-up, I've yet to encounter a bigot that couldn't rationalize their bigotry and take offense when it was pointed out. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- QuoteHillary and the Shrub both grate on my nerves. Please explain how saying so indicates my bigotry for women but not men. Maybe you have a dislike for self serving, screeching, cackling, man hating bitches. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lawrocket 3 #108 November 28, 2007 How do you define "bigot?" My wife is hotter than your wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty 0 #109 November 28, 2007 Quote And as a follow-up, I've yet to encounter a bigot that couldn't rationalize their bigotry and take offense when it was pointed out. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful. -Calvin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #110 November 28, 2007 Quote You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. People keep using that phrase, I don't think it is as funny as they think it is. quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #111 November 28, 2007 Quote Quote You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. People keep using that phrase, I don't think it is as funny as they think it is. inconceivable! ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #112 November 28, 2007 Quote Quote Quote You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. People keep using that phrase, I don't think it is as funny as they think it is. inconceivable! Wait 'til I get going! quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #113 November 28, 2007 Do you think she goes commando at fund raisers ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wmw999 2,584 #114 November 28, 2007 Quote Do you think she goes commando at fund raisers ? I think I have to nominate this for post of the year Wendy W.There is nothing more dangerous than breaking a basic safety rule and getting away with it. It removes fear of the consequences and builds false confidence. (tbrown) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Clownburner 0 #115 November 28, 2007 Quote Quote I think that the security of the nation is one of the few areas that the federal government should be involved in. I think it's one of the few areas that it is ALLOWED to be involved in by the U.S. Constitution! I fixed it for you 7CP#1 | BTR#2 | Payaso en fuego Rodriguez "I want hot chicks in my boobies!"- McBeth Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #116 November 28, 2007 That is just outdated thinking... 19th and 20th century..... Here in the 21st they have a whole new view of the constitution. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #117 November 28, 2007 Quote Quote Quote I think that the security of the nation is one of the few areas that the federal government should be involved in. I think it's one of the few areas that it is ALLOWED to be involved in by the U.S. Constitution! I fixed it for you Read the words right after "We the people . . .". The ones that say, "insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence" pretty much make it a requirement. BTW, that's not MY typo, I copied and pasted it from the National Archives!quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chinagirl 0 #118 November 29, 2007 Just because I don't believe the government has a right to use tax money for social programs such as abstinence, planned parenthood, welfare, education, social security, and medical benefits, (just to name a few), does not make me "young with little education". Note, I listed programs that have statistically proven to be FAILURES!! I believe it is time to take a step back and start advocating individual responsibility, which is NOT on Hilary's agenda. I'm sure Ron Paul is not a big proponent of that either but this thread is about issues with Hilary Clinton...and THAT is my issue with her. Limiting the power of the government is not advocating NO government. Try learning the Constitution and the Bill of Rights...maybe then you'll know what the government was initially set up to do. Learn the basics first before you start ranting about how little everyone else on this thread knows about politics.~Built for Abuse www.skydivethefarm.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lindsey 0 #119 November 29, 2007 still, with a pretty good background involving Bill and Hillary....I think she's "creepy." That's enough for me. Sometimes ya' gotta go with your gut. linz-- A conservative is just a liberal who's been mugged. A liberal is just a conservative who's been to jail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #120 November 29, 2007 ...... Learn the basics first before you start ranting about how little everyone else on this thread knows about politics. Can't do that. It would take away from time needed to insult someone for not being smart enough to agree with his/her views. Who ever he/she is"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
popsjumper 2 #121 November 29, 2007 I didn't scroll through all the drift and inanities in this thread...maybe somebody has already posted this. What do you see that you do/don't like about her voting record (as complete as the link may/may not be.)? http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=55463My reality and yours are quite different. I think we're all Bozos on this bus. Falcon5232, SCS8170, SCSA353, POPS9398, DS239 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #122 November 29, 2007 What happened to the cooking lessons? During the last week of their original campaign, she told everyone about her favorite cookie recipie. I never heard any more after the election. She started to drive the country towards that homespun Arkansas attitude and then stopped. Obviously, a vast right wing conspiracy to keep her from freeing her inner homemaker. On the campaign tour, she wore a soft print dress instead of the blue "Janet-Reno-esque lawyer-les" dress. After the cameras went off, the print dress came off like a gown on prom night. I'll bet that when she campaigns in Massachusetts this year that she wears a Catholic nuns habit. When women were polled about having sex with Bill, 84% said, "Never again." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #123 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote I don't think Hillary is electable in the general election, because as we see in this very forum and this very thread, there are simply too many bigots out there. You know, professor, I personally resent that statement. So if she were a man, how many more votes would she get? It's hard to find an analogue because her history as First Lady/Co-President is certainly part of the dislike for her. But Charles Schumer is the other Senator, and we don't like him much better. The question to ask is how many women are voting for her exclusively because she is the first female candidate to run? Do those sexists outnumber the opposing sexists? Probably. It's like saying that people wouldn't vote for Jesse Jackson because they are bigots. Meanwhile, Colin Powell could have been elected president while Jesse Jackson could not. A VERY large percentage of people who wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton WOULD vote for Cunnilingus Rice. Notably, nearly all people who WOULD vote for Hillary WOULD NOT vote for Condi Rice. It would not be for racist reasons - it would be for a philosophical reason. Note, I would vote for neither Condi Rice nor Hillary - I tend to agree with neither. www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3030219#3030219 I think my case is a strong one.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rushmc 23 #124 November 29, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Quote I don't think Hillary is electable in the general election, because as we see in this very forum and this very thread, there are simply too many bigots out there. You know, professor, I personally resent that statement. So if she were a man, how many more votes would she get? It's hard to find an analogue because her history as First Lady/Co-President is certainly part of the dislike for her. But Charles Schumer is the other Senator, and we don't like him much better. The question to ask is how many women are voting for her exclusively because she is the first female candidate to run? Do those sexists outnumber the opposing sexists? Probably. It's like saying that people wouldn't vote for Jesse Jackson because they are bigots. Meanwhile, Colin Powell could have been elected president while Jesse Jackson could not. A VERY large percentage of people who wouldn't vote for Hillary Clinton WOULD vote for Cunnilingus Rice. Notably, nearly all people who WOULD vote for Hillary WOULD NOT vote for Condi Rice. It would not be for racist reasons - it would be for a philosophical reason. Note, I would vote for neither Condi Rice nor Hillary - I tend to agree with neither. www.dropzone.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=3030219#3030219 I think my case is a strong one. I think you are just a case"America will never be destroyed from the outside, if we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves." Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
happythoughts 0 #125 November 29, 2007 Someone once told me that the definition of sales was "overcoming objections". I guess that politicians are selling themselves. Most of the time, if you are on a car lot, at least you want to look at cars. If you kept going around asking, "So, why won't you buy our crappy brand of cars?", you may have an uphill battle on the sale. If a thread called "explain your issues" with a candidate seems like a reasonable discussion, maybe the candidate isn't that viable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites