Guerilla Marketing and its Deceptive Practices

[Lefty 0]

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We are not here to discuss bank robbery and murder. We are here to discuss business practices.

You choose not to condone those practices do you?

When was the last time you used a microsoft application?

When was the last time you purchased an item that was made overseas in a contract that given to the lowest bidder because they use sweat shop labor?

When was the last time you drove down a road that was paved by a contractor that paid off their local congressman to get the business and thus put 5 mom and pop shops out of business because they were relying on that contract to keep their shop open.

Hell. When was the last time you bought something at walmart?

Look around. It is everywhere. Quit trying to fool yourself.

Start giving some facts to back up the accusations that you phrase in the form of questions. Hypotheticals should be used sparingly to make a point. When they are your whole point, though, it gets tiring. Lying and fraud are unacceptable. Provide some concrete and real examples for us to comment on, and maybe we can reach an understanding.

See my previous post. One very basic example dating back 28 years or so.

Ok, it's a start. However, any controversy there was got laid to rest when Microsoft and SCP settled. The creator of DOS even went to work for Microsoft afterwards. Not the actions of a man who feels he was defrauded.

Provoking a reaction isn't the same thing as saying something meaningful.
-Calvin

[kelpdiver 2]

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If you want to support unethical thieves and liars then that's your prerogative.

So back to the OP. What did Microsoft do that you would consider theft?

Oh, there are so many examples, but I'd say stealing doublespace from Stac is a pretty clear example. Paid a small fortune in court, effectively making it a buyout because the company was insolvent after MS put the product into Dos 6 as a free tool.

[skypapa 0]

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We are not here to discuss bank robbery and murder. We are here to discuss business practices.

You choose not to condone those practices do you?

When was the last time you used a microsoft application?

When was the last time you purchased an item that was made overseas in a contract that given to the lowest bidder because they use sweat shop labor?

When was the last time you drove down a road that was paved by a contractor that paid off their local congressman to get the business and thus put 5 mom and pop shops out of business because they were relying on that contract to keep their shop open.

Hell. When was the last time you bought something at walmart?

Look around. It is everywhere. Quit trying to fool yourself.

Start giving some facts to back up the accusations that you phrase in the form of questions. Hypotheticals should be used sparingly to make a point. When they are your whole point, though, it gets tiring. Lying and fraud are unacceptable. Provide some concrete and real examples for us to comment on, and maybe we can reach an understanding.

See my previous post. One very basic example dating back 28 years or so.

Ok, it's a start. However, any controversy there was got laid to rest when Microsoft and SCP settled. The creator of DOS even went to work for Microsoft afterwards. Not the actions of a man who feels he was defrauded.

Not the actions of a man that was defrauded? Or perhaps is it a case of a man that was defrauded but was offered millions in return? Hummmm, theres a thought.

[kelpdiver 2]

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We all know the Microsofts and the IBM's of the world probably cut some corners and stepped on some toes to get to where they are today.

You misuse the term guerilla marketing - sort of what we'd expect from the current Skyride shill.

This term refers to the practice of paying people/ad outfits to make comments, postings, videos that purport to be independent people espousing the virtues of a product or company. There is a lot of this on myspace and youtube. And your activities here certainly look like the same.

MS and IBM never did anything so subtle. And no, we're really not better off for it. MS is great for a hobbyist who doesn't mind the random failures and restarts, but it's totally inadequete for enterprise operation. But it works just well enough to maintain its dominant position.

IBM, otoh, has turned into quite the innovator since its decline due to clone PCs and the decline of the mainframes. It has pushed new worlds for laptops, hard drives, linux, ... they just beat the shit out of SCO in court. I'm still waiting to see a MS innovation besides their mouse.

[warpedskydiver 0]

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If you want to support unethical thieves and liars then that's your prerogative.

As my mother used to say, birds of a feather flock together.

I bet she said lots of things about you and your friends.

[IanHarrop 43]

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I'm still waiting to see a MS innovation besides their mouse.

Xerox had the first commercial mouse implementation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_mouse

I guess the MS innovation was 2 buttons.

"Where troubles melt like lemon drops, away above the chimney tops, that's where you'll find me" Dorothy

[kelpdiver 2]

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I'm still waiting to see a MS innovation besides their mouse.

Xerox had the first commercial mouse implementation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_mouse

I guess the MS innovation was 2 buttons.

The MS innovation was a comfortable ergo mouse that was actually nice to use. As you'll notice, most mice now come in the dove bar shape. Before that...some of the ugliest beige creations ever.

[kallend 2,150]

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If you want to support unethical thieves and liars then that's your prerogative.

As my mother used to say, birds of a feather flock together.

I bet she said lots of things about you and your friends.

You are really on form today. Your wit is scintillating.

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