turtlespeed 226 #26 November 20, 2007 Quote Quote >Except for the little fact that the care should be available, like it is here, >but IS NOT. If you got hurt in Anza-Borrego, would you remain there until a doctor appeared - or would you make the few-hour car (or ambulance) ride to, say, Yuma or San Diego? Hypothetically, IF I was practicing 20way in Coolidge in 1990 prior to texas 20 way comps - and IF I got bit by a rattler in Coolidge, I'd likely sit in the riggers trailer for a bit while we talk to doctors on the phone. He might cut me a little and use a bite kit suction cup on the cut. THEN, we'd hop in a van and drive to Casa Grande where they'd thaw out some anti-venin and ex-ray the dead diamondback/greenmojave and scare the nurses with it. Likely a doctor will then ask - "Who SLASHED you?" thus focusing on something he had no control over and then doing nothing at all. Very dramatic. asshole. THEN, they'd do more of not anything and I'd get helicoptered to the poison center in Phoenix. where they'd fix me up fine That's what I'd do. Hypothetically. So your hypothetical wouldn't involve another country?I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
billvon 3,090 #27 November 20, 2007 >I guess that would depend on what I was doing. You'd drive a few hours/get an ambulance? Too bad you don't live in a country where medical care is available where you need it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #28 November 20, 2007 Quote So your hypothetical wouldn't involve another country? Sorry - after treatment, I'd then invade Singapore. It's fun there. ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NWFlyer 2 #29 November 20, 2007 Quote So your hypothetical wouldn't involve another country? It would depend on where I was. My hypothetical will involve getting me to the nearest facility that can provide the level of care that I need at the time, borders be damned. If I'm in, say, Burlington, VT and it's faster to get me to Montreal than to Boston to get to a major hospital, cool. You seem to be focusing on the fact that the level of care this guy needed wasn't available in Windsor, Ontario, a city with a population of about 200,000. Fact is, it's probably not available in the majority of US cities of that size, either."There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." -P.J. O'Rourke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #30 November 20, 2007 Quote CHICAGO - Beatrice Vance died of a heart attack. The coroner says waiting in the emergency room helped kill her. The 49-year-old woman’s chest was tight with pain when she walked into the ER at Vista East Medical Center in Waukegan last July. A blood clot had lodged in her heart. It was 10:15 p.m. when Vance checked in, a coroner’s report shows. But she was told to wait for a doctor. So she sat and waited. And waited. And then at 12:25 a.m., she collapsed, her heart starved of blood flow. from: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15487676/ I guess in the US in stead of finding emergency care for patients you rather have them die waiting in the emegency room... (See, we all can draw stupid conclusions from one incident....) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #31 November 20, 2007 Quote Fact is, it's probably not available in the majority of US cities of that size, either. that's just because most hospitals do not understand the true effectiveness of leeches ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,117 #32 November 21, 2007 Quote Quote Fact is, it's probably not available in the majority of US cities of that size, either. that's just because most hospitals do not understand the true effectiveness of leeches Really? I thought all hospitals had attorneys on the staff.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
turtlespeed 226 #33 November 22, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Fact is, it's probably not available in the majority of US cities of that size, either. that's just because most hospitals do not understand the true effectiveness of leeches Really? I thought all hospitals had attorneys on the staff. I am currently searching for a stat/reference guide to the medical facilities available in populations =/> 200k in the US.I'm not usually into the whole 3-way thing, but you got me a little excited with that. - Skymama BTR #1 / OTB^5 Official #2 / Hellfish #408 / VSCR #108/Tortuga/Orfun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #34 November 22, 2007 Quote Quote Fact is, it's probably not available in the majority of US cities of that size, either. that's just because most hospitals do not understand the true effectiveness of leeches I was in a boating accident a fews yrs. back. I had good insurance. I stood in the lobby for 2 hrs. bleeding all over the place. I asked for an Ibuprofen for the pain. They told me to sit down and STFU. Quote. "This ain't Burger King". I called a cab and went home and sewed my self up. Assholes.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites