GQ_jumper 4 #76 November 21, 2007 As for breaks on debts, etc., Gawain can clarify further, I'm sure. How about it, Max? Quote Yeah not so much on that one!! At the moment if you are guard or reserve you can have the interest rate of your debts lowered, this is due to the fact that all the guard and reserve units that have been called up since 9-11 have had people bitching and crying that they are actually having to do the job that they volunteered to do and they go running like little bitches to congressman for help. Those of us on active duty get a big hefty "fuck you" from creditors when we ask for a lower rate while deployed, trust me. My mortgage company gave two shits less that I was leaving, and won' even give me a break on the penalty for selling the house within 3 years of buying it because I am on orders to move elsewhere. Guard and reservists cry and whine til they get special treatment and extra pay, those of us on active duty are used to getting the shaft so we pretty much just suck it up.History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid. --Dwight D. Eisenhower Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #77 November 21, 2007 QuoteA young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD at MIT, and that was long before he was even being considered for the space program. Years, in fact. Does this therefore make him a "deserter"? Being released from duty for academic purposes isn't all that unusual. And there are official documents to back that release now arent there. Where was Bush.. and where are his documents.. concerning his flight physical he could not have passed.... where are the discharge documents.... How come none of the people assigned to that squadron at the time can remember him....I would think the other pilots would remember one of their own.. at least with any unit I ever served with....it is the Air Force after all and the pilots are the top of food chain.... everyone knows who they are in a flying unit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #78 November 21, 2007 Quote In your eyes he can do no wrong so I wonder why I even try with you... Because you're fascinated with my eyes...but that would be for another forum...Really, your sources are even less convincing than the forged documents that Dan Rather signed off on. Let's just say for the moment that the allegations are, in broad terms, correct: The final year of a six year commitment was waived due to educational advancement. How is this the same as someone who left the country in order to avoid serving? In the Army, enlistees are allowed to pursue "Green to Gold" in which they are officially discharged from their enlistments in the Army and they become a contracted ROTC cadet while pursuing a degree. Most come back as 2LTs, but not all cadets make it through. Their commitments then go unfulfilled. The fact that no one "remembers" is irrelevant. You could attribute old-age to part of that equation.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Amazon 7 #79 November 21, 2007 Quote Let's just say for the moment that the allegations are, in broad terms, correct: The final year of a six year commitment was waived due to educational advancement. So a flight officer.. who does nto show up for his flight physical... has no bearing.... I was on flight status in the USAF in that same era....if you want to remain on status you take the physical.. INCLUDING filling the little cup that tells if you are abusing illicit drugs.... I have no probelm believing he could not have passed a physical.. based on other reports... he was quite the party boy.. DUI and all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #80 November 21, 2007 Quote So a flight officer.. who does nto show up for his flight physical... has no bearing.... Hey!! Stay on topic, we're now talking about my eyes... All of those allegations...guaranteed that something would have surfaced, and you and I know that the press would have thrown this out for the wolves to devour in a heartbeat. It hasn't happened, because it didn't happen the way alleged. Incomplete military records are hardly noteworthy...you and I both know that.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites rehmwa 2 #81 November 21, 2007 Quote A young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD right, ..... "BUZZ" like that's his real name ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Gawain 0 #82 November 21, 2007 Quote A young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD at MIT, and that was long before he was even being considered for the space program. Years, in fact. Does this therefore make him a "deserter"? Being released from duty for academic purposes isn't all that unusual. Since everyone is pooping on national figureheads, Buzz Aldrin went to detox too...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Guest #83 November 27, 2007 Quote Quote A young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD right, ..... "BUZZ" like that's his real name No, his first name is Edwin, but he's had the nickname from when he was an adolescent. It was a family thing. Something to do with New Jersey, most likely. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Prev 1 2 3 4 Next Page 4 of 4 Join the conversation You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. 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Amazon 7 #77 November 21, 2007 QuoteA young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD at MIT, and that was long before he was even being considered for the space program. Years, in fact. Does this therefore make him a "deserter"? Being released from duty for academic purposes isn't all that unusual. And there are official documents to back that release now arent there. Where was Bush.. and where are his documents.. concerning his flight physical he could not have passed.... where are the discharge documents.... How come none of the people assigned to that squadron at the time can remember him....I would think the other pilots would remember one of their own.. at least with any unit I ever served with....it is the Air Force after all and the pilots are the top of food chain.... everyone knows who they are in a flying unit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #78 November 21, 2007 Quote In your eyes he can do no wrong so I wonder why I even try with you... Because you're fascinated with my eyes...but that would be for another forum...Really, your sources are even less convincing than the forged documents that Dan Rather signed off on. Let's just say for the moment that the allegations are, in broad terms, correct: The final year of a six year commitment was waived due to educational advancement. How is this the same as someone who left the country in order to avoid serving? In the Army, enlistees are allowed to pursue "Green to Gold" in which they are officially discharged from their enlistments in the Army and they become a contracted ROTC cadet while pursuing a degree. Most come back as 2LTs, but not all cadets make it through. Their commitments then go unfulfilled. The fact that no one "remembers" is irrelevant. You could attribute old-age to part of that equation.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #79 November 21, 2007 Quote Let's just say for the moment that the allegations are, in broad terms, correct: The final year of a six year commitment was waived due to educational advancement. So a flight officer.. who does nto show up for his flight physical... has no bearing.... I was on flight status in the USAF in that same era....if you want to remain on status you take the physical.. INCLUDING filling the little cup that tells if you are abusing illicit drugs.... I have no probelm believing he could not have passed a physical.. based on other reports... he was quite the party boy.. DUI and all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #80 November 21, 2007 Quote So a flight officer.. who does nto show up for his flight physical... has no bearing.... Hey!! Stay on topic, we're now talking about my eyes... All of those allegations...guaranteed that something would have surfaced, and you and I know that the press would have thrown this out for the wolves to devour in a heartbeat. It hasn't happened, because it didn't happen the way alleged. Incomplete military records are hardly noteworthy...you and I both know that.So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #81 November 21, 2007 Quote A young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD right, ..... "BUZZ" like that's his real name ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gawain 0 #82 November 21, 2007 Quote A young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD at MIT, and that was long before he was even being considered for the space program. Years, in fact. Does this therefore make him a "deserter"? Being released from duty for academic purposes isn't all that unusual. Since everyone is pooping on national figureheads, Buzz Aldrin went to detox too...So I try and I scream and I beg and I sigh Just to prove I'm alive, and it's alright 'Cause tonight there's a way I'll make light of my treacherous life Make light! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest #83 November 27, 2007 Quote Quote A young USAF officer named Buzz Aldrin was released from active duty to pursue his PhD right, ..... "BUZZ" like that's his real name No, his first name is Edwin, but he's had the nickname from when he was an adolescent. It was a family thing. Something to do with New Jersey, most likely. mh ."The mouse does not know life until it is in the mouth of the cat." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
