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I dont have time to read it now. If Cheney did something illeagal then I would support jailing him, as I would Bush. My point remains, Clinton is not clean here as kallend asserted

For your next class in REALITY...( I know its gonna be tough for you)

Compare and Contrast the difference in the rise in energy prices under the Clinton Administration and what has occured under the Bush Administration



And as a bonus point comment on which president has ties to the oil business or.. PART of the oil business

And for YOUR next class in reality... try admitting that your idol Clinton and the Dems were just as dirty as you accuse Bush and the Reps of being.

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You ever thought of trying to get a job with Karl Rove....similar tactics...

But at least you seem to like women .. sometimes. So I doubt if you could pass the test to get into their circle.

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You ever thought of trying to get a job with Karl Rove....similar tactics...

But at least you seem to like women .. sometimes.

I treat everyone equally - they talk trash, I call them on it. The fairer sex doesn't get any break in that regard.

Jeanne, you know damn good and well that the Dems are just as dirty as the Reps. The saddest part is that you make some DAMNED good points...WHEN you stay on-point, and could honestly debate and show how both sides have fucked over the American public, but instead, you rely solely on bile and vitriol and constant attacks on anyone that doesn't fit your viewpoint.

You make remarks as to people getting away with remarks that you would get banned for... the last bit above is why - instead of debating the point, you've changed to where all you do is attack the speaker. THAT is why (IMO) you're not given any slack.

Mike
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Jeanne, you know damn good and well that the Dems are just as dirty as the Reps

I know you want to believe that SOOOOOOO badly since your guys have let you down so badly...


BUT.... I would say on average more of the Dems are doing a far better job for the American people( which is what I really care about) than your guys have done for multi-national corporations and in nation building( which is just an excuse for spending our money where they cant easily ve seen looting the treasury)

As an example... I would say Patty Murray from my state is doing VERY good work... as a young woman she actually worked with disabled vets in a veterans hospital.... and is still championing their cause and trying to give them some semblance of a quality of life after serving their country..
Why would she do this????? Because she actually cares about the veterans after having seen the aftermath of war.

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Want to know where allegiances lie - FOLLOW THE MONEY, right from Enron newsrooms to the GOP Democrats.

Seems to work THIS way, as well....

We still have a free press. If GOP supporters won't run newspapers then shame on them.

Why don't YOU start a paper with a right-wing slant?

BTW can you give us a cite on newsrooms giving money to Dems?

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Want to know where allegiances lie - FOLLOW THE MONEY, right from Enron newsrooms to the GOP Democrats.

Seems to work THIS way, as well....

We still have a free press. If GOP supporters won't run newspapers then shame on them.

Why don't YOU start a paper with a right-wing slant?

BTW can you give us a cite on newsrooms giving money to Dems?

I've already provided that information several times.

Mike
I love you, Shannon and Jim.
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Want to know where allegiances lie - FOLLOW THE MONEY, right from Enron newsrooms to the GOP Democrats.

Seems to work THIS way, as well....

We still have a free press. If GOP supporters won't run newspapers then shame on them.

Why don't YOU start a paper with a right-wing slant?

BTW can you give us a cite on newsrooms giving money to Dems?

I've already provided that information several times.

Where? Link, please.

Edited to add - I've done a forum search on every one of your posts containing the words money to democrats, money to dems, donations to dems, donations to democrats and all I could find was this UNSUBSTANTIATED claim.

Now how about backing it up with a credible source.

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Did you try looking in the same place you got your information about Enron from? Or was that an "unsubstantiated claim", as well?

Well, *this* was certainly hard to find...as was this, or this.

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Whether you sample your news feed from ABC or CBS (or, yes, even NBC and MSNBC), whether you prefer Fox News Channel or National Public Radio, The Wall Street Journal or The New Yorker, some of the journalists feeding you are also feeding cash to politicians, parties or political action committees.

MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties.

But, of COURSE, there's no liberal bias in the newsrooms...nope, nothing to see here, move along...oh, wait... the former head of ABC's political reporting department (Mark Halperin) says otherwise, too.

The good news is that the news orgs are FINALLY cracking down on it - of course, it doesn't change the bias in the newsroom, as I've stated in the posts linked above.

Mike
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It's a free country with a free press. If you think the media are biased you can always start your own media outlet.

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MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties.

In fairness, is there a similar accounting of donations, included both absolute #'s and amounts, by editors (who I would purely 'guestimate' may also lean left in their personal donation choices), publishers, and CEOs of news corporations?

Is anyone giving to other (non-Dem/non-Repub) candidates?

And how did MSNBC select the journalists identified?

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In fairness, is there a similar accounting of donations, included both absolute #'s and amounts, by editors (who I would purely 'guestimate' may also lean left in their personal donation choices), publishers, and CEOs of news corporations?

Is anyone giving to other (non-Dem/non-Repub) candidates?

And how did MSNBC select the journalists identified?

VR/Marg

Howdy Marg - I didn't *see* that in the article. I'm sure the information is out there somewhere, but I'm unsure where to start searching for it.

Mike
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But, of COURSE, there's no liberal bias in the newsrooms...nope, nothing to see here, move along...oh, wait... the former head of ABC's political reporting department (Mark Halperin) says otherwise, too.

That looks like a personal grudge list that Halperin wrote and Media Matters pretty much smacked down his first talking point. Besides, talking about what the media ISN'T going to cover doesn't indicate a bias. The list of what they're not going to cover or cover but not to your political liking can be tailored to meet any agenda. I could create a similar list of things like WTO or World Bank protests that are extremely poorly covered, poor coverage of the Sudan genocide, the way the media simply repeated White House talking points in the lead up to the Iraq war while ignoring everything else, the way that Israeli's and Palestinians are portrayed, etc.
Actually, I guess I was wrong. Talking about what the media won't cover does indeed indicate a bias, just not the one that's thrown about as "liberal"ly as others.

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The list of what they're not going to cover or cover but not to your political liking can be tailored to meet any agenda.

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Knock knock knock...... ....... anybody home??? Hello, hhhheeelllllllooooooooooo.

It does when it happens consistantly the same way

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The list of what they're not going to cover or cover but not to your political liking can be tailored to meet any agenda.

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Knock knock knock...... ....... anybody home??? Hello, hhhheeelllllllooooooooooo.

It does when it happens consistantly the same way

And it's a good thing too. Otherwise we'd be stuck with cigar and oxycontin ads for 48 minutes of the nightly "News®" hour

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The list of what they're not going to cover or cover but not to your political liking can be tailored to meet any agenda.

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Knock knock knock...... ....... anybody home??? Hello, hhhheeelllllllooooooooooo.

It does when it happens consistantly the same way

And what is really interesting here it YOU, bring up a topic/issue which supports the very point you deny

And it's a good thing too. Otherwise we'd be stuck with cigar and oxycontin ads for 48 minutes of the nightly "News®" hour

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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The list of what they're not going to cover or cover but not to your political liking can be tailored to meet any agenda.

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Knock knock knock...... ....... anybody home??? Hello, hhhheeelllllllooooooooooo.

It does when it happens consistantly the same way

And what is really interesting here it YOU, bring up a topic/issue which supports the very point you deny

And it's a good thing too. Otherwise we'd be stuck with cigar and oxycontin ads for 48 minutes of the nightly "News®" hour

Ok, I've read it a few times. Took a couple of sips of coffee and read it a couple more times.
Ok, I give.
What?

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The list of what they're not going to cover or cover but not to your political liking can be tailored to meet any agenda.

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Knock knock knock...... ....... anybody home??? Hello, hhhheeelllllllooooooooooo.

It does when it happens consistantly the same way

And what is really interesting here it YOU, bring up a topic/issue which supports the very point you deny

And it's a good thing too. Otherwise we'd be stuck with cigar and oxycontin ads for 48 minutes of the nightly "News®" hour

Ok, I've read it a few times. Took a couple of sips of coffee and read it a couple more times.
Ok, I give.
What?

Alright, I will see if I can help (OK, I am assuming I understood your point correctly too)

I assume you speak of Rush and his drug thingy. How differently was it handled in the news and on this site compared to say (you insert name of person or Democrat polition here)?

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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Alright, I will see if I can help (OK, I am assuming I understood your point correctly too)

I assume you speak of Rush and his drug thingy. How differently was it handled in the news and on this site compared to say (you insert name of person or Democrat polition here)?

Yea, the oxy and the advertisement length reference was towards his show, and I don't know how it compared. I really didn't pay that much attention other than to laugh out loud when I heard it. Overblown, overbearing, arrogant windbags have a tendency to draw that sort of attention to themselves when they're busted as a hypocrite. Works just as well for Rush as some of your more high profile televangelists.

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Alright, I will see if I can help (OK, I am assuming I understood your point correctly too)

I assume you speak of Rush and his drug thingy. How differently was it handled in the news and on this site compared to say (you insert name of person or Democrat polition here)?

Yea, the oxy and the advertisement length reference was towards his show, and I don't know how it compared. I really didn't pay that much attention other than to laugh out loud when I heard it. Overblown, overbearing, arrogant windbags have a tendency to draw that sort of attention to themselves when they're busted as a hypocrite. Works just as well for Rush as some of your more high profile televangelists.

I do not have any televangelists. YOU prove once again you have never listened to Rush. You only take the talking points of the media that has no agenda

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I do not have any televangelists.

Why in the world would you have a televangelist?
Nevermind. I don't really want to know.

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I do not have any televangelists.

Why in the world would you have a televangelist?
Nevermind. I don't really want to know.

Read YOUR post to me

"America will never be destroyed from the outside,
if we falter and lose our freedoms,
it will be because we destroyed ourselves."
Abraham Lincoln

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I do not have any televangelists.

Why in the world would you have a televangelist?
Nevermind. I don't really want to know.

Read YOUR post to me

Ok, but you're not sitting on my lap while I do.
Once upon a time.......
"Overblown, overbearing, arrogant windbags have a tendency to draw that sort of attention to themselves when they're busted as a hypocrite. Works just as well for Rush as some of your more high profile televangelists."