warpedskydiver 0 #151 November 14, 2007 Now your starting to get pissy, I am done. bye bye. I will debate you on things when you can be a bit more honest. What the fuck has happened to you? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrewwhyte 1 #152 November 14, 2007 Quote Now your starting to get pissy, I am done. bye bye. I will debate you on things when you can be a bit more honest. What the fuck has happened to you? I think she's just missing NCclimber. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #153 November 14, 2007 QuoteI think she's just missing NCclimber. Fuck no.. not on your life....he needs to stay the fuck over on the climbing forum... where he can get away with his form of posting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #154 November 14, 2007 You just want my body, admit it! Damned meat lovers!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
juanesky 0 #155 November 14, 2007 Quote Quote Now your starting to get pissy, I am done. bye bye. I will debate you on things when you can be a bit more honest. What the fuck has happened to you? I think she's just missing NCclimber. Lmao.Her grammar denotes diaphoresis, and radiating pain in the left arm. Could it be myocardial infarction?"According to some of the conservatives here, it sounds like it's fine to beat your wide - as long as she had it coming." -Billvon Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #156 November 14, 2007 www.armytimes.com/news/2007/11/ap_thompson_071113/ Thompson to pitch million-man ground force The Associated Press Posted : Tuesday Nov 13, 2007 8:49:49 EST CHARLESTON, S.C. — Republican Fred Thompson is taking his call for expanding the military, spending more money on defense and taking better care of current and former service members before a receptive audience at The Citadel on Tuesday morning. Thompson, a former Tennessee senator and actor, also will call for more modern battle equipment on the ground, in the air and on the water during his speech. “The investments we make today provide the means to defend our nation tomorrow. They will make our military personnel more effective and safer,” Thompson will say, according to prepared remarks his campaign made available to The Associated Press. In his remarks, Thompson says the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan show the armed forces are too small. He proposes building a “million-member” ground force of 775,000 soldiers and 225,000 Marines — substantially higher than what the Pentagon has called for. “Too many commitments today leave our armed forces capable of meeting too few contingencies tomorrow,” he says. The Pentagon has recommended the Army be increased by about 65,000 soldiers, to a total of 547,000, and the Marines be increased by 27,000, to 202,000. Thompson also compares the amount spent on the military to the gross domestic product, and says the equivalent of 4.1 percent of the GDP is now spent on defense, including the cost of operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. He will call for spending to increase to 4.5 percent of GDP, not including the ongoing conflicts. Gross domestic product is the value of all goods and services produced within the U.S. Regarding care for current and former service members, Thompson advocates implementing many of the recommendations of a presidential commission on improving the treatment of wounded veterans. He also says service members need better pay and benefits “including a modern GI Bill with educational assistance that will help us recruit and keep our nation’s finest in uniform.” Thompson also mentions the need to build a “robust missile defense system to defend our homeland, our troops and our allies from ballistic missiles,” but does not go into greater detail. The Republican presidential primary in South Carolina is scheduled for Jan. 19. PrintEmailRedditDigg This Week’s Army Times If You Haven’t Gone To War — You’re About To The Army has identified 37,000 soldiers who have not gone to war — and could spell relief for the heavily deployed. Read this week's issue | Read past issues Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #157 November 14, 2007 Quotewww.armytimes.com/news/2007/11/ap_thompson_071113/ Thompson to pitch million-man ground force Well, I guess that will finally put US over the top into spending more on "defense" than the rest of the world combined. Who will he borrow the money from to pay for it? The Chinese?... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #158 November 14, 2007 QuoteHer grammar denotes diaphoresis, and radiating pain in the left arm. Could it be myocardial infarction? Nice Personal attack.. and multisyllabic as well.. I am impresssed.. too bad it is so far off the mark that it is actually sad you tried using something from your supposed background as a medic. You must lose a hell of a lot of injured patients with a diagnosis like that Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amazon 7 #159 November 14, 2007 QuoteThompson, a former Tennessee senator and actor, also will call for more modern battle equipment on the ground, in the air and on the water during his speech. “The investments we make today provide the means to defend our nation tomorrow. They will make our military personnel more effective and safer,” Thompson will say, according to prepared remarks his campaign made available to The Associated Press DUDE... he just made a hell of a lot of defense contractors cream their jeans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #160 November 14, 2007 great, how many incursions will the government undertake with twice as many soldiers? I can see it now - peacekeepers on every continent during the Dem regimes, 3-4 invasions during each GOP one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #161 November 14, 2007 QuoteDUDE... he just made a hell of a lot of defense contractors cream their jeans so it's a fund raising ploy, then. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #162 November 16, 2007 Don’t Hand Over the Internet to the U.N. Posted on November 16th, 2007 By Fred in Internet, Foreign Policy, Commentaries I’m no tech head, but I think I know a thing or three about the Internet and how it works. And as far as I can tell, it works pretty well. More than 1.4 billion people around the world seem to be emailing each other a lot, and those emails get delivered a lot faster and more reliably than “snail mail.” Lots of people are innovating around the Internet – voice calling over the Internet, e-commerce, blogs, education, employment, and healthcare services, music and video streaming and downloads, and such – and lots and lots of people are profiting from those innovations and the websites and companies that operate online. So if things are going so well, why is it that some folks are seriously thinking about taking management of the Internet away from the United States and handing control to the United Nations? Foreign government officials from around the world meeting at a U.N.-sponsored conference in Brazil actually discussed this notion last week. It didn’t get much attention, but as we all know, that’s how bad ideas get traction. Despite what Al Gore may think, the Internet was an invention of the U.S. government and a number of universities and other entities a couple decades ago. As the Internet became what it is today, the government created a nonprofit organization, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, to manage what was then a growing network of networks. Today ICANN does things like manage the assignment of Web sites domain names – the .coms, .orgs, .edus – for example. But countries like China aren’t happy about U.S. control of “the tubes.” They’d rather have the U.N. run it. I wonder how the U.N. would’ve handled the situation in Burma recently when the government cut off all Internet access to all anti-government protesters, or how it would’ve handled the imprisonment in China of dissidents and reporters who emailed news out of the country. My hunch is that we’d see the same level of management of the Internet from the U.N. that we’ve seen when it came to peacekeeping operations in Africa. Or its management of Saddam Hussein’s “Oil for Food” program. Or its monitoring of Iran’s nuclear program. In fact, I wouldn’t be surprised if when you look up “fool’s errand” in the dictionary, you find: “Role for United Nations’” as the definition. The notion of surrendering management of the Internet – a global, strategic infrastructure for communications and commerce – to the UN is just a plain dumb idea. We shouldn’t be handing over something that works right to an institution that has difficulty doing anything right. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #163 November 16, 2007 Quote Despite what Al Gore may think, the Internet was an invention of the U.S. government and a number of universities and other entities a couple decades ago. Fred needs to check his facts. www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #164 November 17, 2007 Quote Quote Despite what Al Gore may think, the Internet was an invention of the U.S. government and a number of universities and other entities a couple decades ago. Fred needs to check his facts. www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Gotta split those hairs.... Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jenfly00 0 #165 November 17, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Despite what Al Gore may think, the Internet was an invention of the U.S. government and a number of universities and other entities a couple decades ago. Fred needs to check his facts. www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Gotta split those hairs.... God is in the details.----------------------- "O brave new world that has such people in it". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #166 November 17, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Despite what Al Gore may think, the Internet was an invention of the U.S. government and a number of universities and other entities a couple decades ago. Fred needs to check his facts. www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Gotta split those hairs.... Lies are lies and facts are facts. A lesson you neo-cons find hard to grasp.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #167 November 17, 2007 Quote Quote Quote Quote Despite what Al Gore may think, the Internet was an invention of the U.S. government and a number of universities and other entities a couple decades ago. Fred needs to check his facts. www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp Gotta split those hairs.... Lies are lies and facts are facts. A lesson you neo-cons find hard to grasp. Rather like the Dems dismissing meetings and agreements to work together between Iraq and AQ? Or perhaps the training camp at Salman Pak that AQ personnel used? Dems are just as willing to overlook facts...as long as it serves their agenda. What happened to all those "First 100 hours" promises that Pelosi and the Dems made? All outright lies... and the party faithful swallowed it hook, line and sinker.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #168 November 17, 2007 But of course, the followers of the puppet masters are powerless in thinking for themsleves. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #169 November 17, 2007 QuoteBut of course, the followers of the puppet masters are powerless in thinking for themsleves. The Republicans are just as bad in their own way. The dishonest part is trying to say it's all the fault of one side of the aisle or the other, when it took all them to get us where we are today.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #170 November 17, 2007 When I said followers of the puppet masters, I made no distinction about the party affiliation. That axe swings both ways. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kallend 2,146 #171 November 17, 2007 QuoteQuoteBut of course, the followers of the puppet masters are powerless in thinking for themsleves. The Republicans are just as bad in their own way. The dishonest part is trying to say it's all the fault of one side of the aisle or the other, when it took all them to get us where we are today. This thread is about Fred, who appears quite happy to lie about Gore in order to score points.... The only sure way to survive a canopy collision is not to have one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KidWicked 0 #172 November 17, 2007 Quoteit is proper etiquette You commenting about etiquette is one of the most ironic things I have ever seen.Coreece: "You sound like some skinheads I know, but your prejudice is with Christians, not niggers..." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kelpdiver 2 #173 November 18, 2007 Quote Despite what Al Gore may think, the Internet was an invention of the U.S. government and a number of universities and other entities a couple decades ago. As the Internet became what it is today, the government created a nonprofit organization, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, to manage what was then a growing network of networks. Today ICANN does things like manage the assignment of Web sites domain names – the .coms, .orgs, .edus – for example. Gee, more gross simplifications from Fred, the wonder dog candidate. The concern over ICANN, a fairly recent development in the history of the internet, is both a political one, and a legitimate fear that the US would use it as a weapon. ICANN answers to the government. It shouldn't. I don't want the UN running it, but I do want it made fully independent of the moralist fucks in DC. The claim that the US made the net is also a simplification. While UNIX was developed at Bell Labs and Berkeley and was the base foundation, the first web server came out of CERN near Geneva. And in more recent years, it is truly a global effort. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #174 December 14, 2007 Analysis: Thompson scores debate points By David Yepsen, The Des Moines Register Fred Thompson came out on top in Wednesday's debate among the Republican presidential candidates in Iowa. Of all the candidates, he did himself the most good. Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney also scored well. They avoided any last-minute derailments of their front-running candidacies in Iowa and shored up the support they've built. But it was Thompson, the former Tennessee senator, who was specific, good-humored and exuded an executive persona during the low-key, 90-minute session that was sponsored by The Des Moines Register and broadcast by Iowa Public Television. He had several high points. One of them came when he flatly refused to play the "raise your hand" game in answering a question about global warming. Another came when he said the biggest problem facing education was the National Education Association. (Bashing teacher unions is always popular with Republican audiences.) Thompson also gets credit for being a stand-up guy willing to take on entitlement programs that threaten to bankrupt the country if left unchanged. He made it clear that wealthy, older Americans could no longer expect full Medicare benefits if he's elected. Thompson also teased Romney about his wealth and how the former Massachusetts governor is "getting to be a pretty good actor." Had Thompson performed this well earlier in the campaign — and had his campaign started earlier — he might be doing better than fourth or fifth in the polls today. Because he's so far back, he had the most to gain Wednesday by turning in a presidential performance, and he produced. With three weeks until the Jan. 3 caucuses, it may help him pick up some last-minute support in Iowa. His campaign is promising to spend more time in Iowa until that date, and Wednesday's performance gives him a little spark to fan. Huckabee was also a winner. He has surged enough in recent polls of the race in Iowa that he now leads the GOP contest here. None of the other candidates did anything Wednesday to knock him from that position. He was folksy, warm and conservative, qualities that have helped him win over Iowa Republicans in recent weeks. His performance should firm up the support of caucus activists who are starting to move toward him. By telling the audience he "won't forget where I come from," he cleaved a neat class difference with the more prosperous Romney. Romney also turned in an excellent performance. Until recently, he led the contest in Iowa and is counting on an organization superior to Huckabee's to put him over the top on caucus night. Romney was optimistic and polished. He didn't seem rattled by the recent shift in polls, and his performance should go a ways toward quieting the jitters that have occurred in his ranks as Huckabee has soared. He politely thanked Iowans for their hospitality and asked for their votes in the caucuses. The biggest loser of the day was Alan Keyes. He is simply not a credible candidate for the Republican nomination, and his hyperventilating performance illustrated why nobody takes him seriously. In one of the few debates he's invited to attend, he complains about how he's not getting enough time. Including him proved to be a distraction that took time away from the other candidates. The rest of the candidates performed in the middle. Ron Paul seemed calmer than he had been in many debates — perhaps because he didn't have to shout above a crowd booing at his opposition to the war in Iraq. This debate was intentionally focused away from the war since that has been a big topic in many of the earlier debates. That gave Paul a chance to talk more about his economic conservatism and libertarian ideas, which are more appealing to mainstream Republicans. Rudy Giuliani and John McCain were OK, but they were sort of off to the side. They didn't mess up, but they didn't score, either. Tom Tancredo and Duncan Hunter are credible political figures, but their chances of winning the GOP nomination rank right up there with Keyes'. The two basically said the same things they've said in every other debate. The biggest problem with the debate was that it wasn't really a debate. Candidates got almost no opportunity to grill one another. Often they ran out of time and were cut off just as they started to probe an opponent. The event would have been more nourishing had the format allowed for more back-and-forth. The Des Moines Register is owned by Gannett, USA TODAY's parent company. © Copyright 2007 USA TODAY, a division of Gannett Co. Inc. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SpeedRacer 1 #175 December 14, 2007 Quote GO FRED!!! Wait, so Fred Flintstone is running for Presisdent?? Speed Racer -------------------------------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
