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If I am someone who is naturally inconsiderate and my behaviour is bothering you why will I care to change it if it is upsetting you and not me? That is the way many people think. Sometimes you have to speak to them on their level.



That's why cell phone jammers are illegal in the US. Sometimes inconsiderate people can only be coerced with the force of law.



So at the gut level you can appreciate the effectiveness of shifting the consequence. From that you should be able to see why many like myself would like to be able to use this device.

I am sure that most of the people who want to use one are not out to be pranksters. Most just want to send a message to the loudmouthed cell-yellers.
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That's why cell phone jammers are illegal in the US. Sometimes inconsiderate people can only be coerced with the force of law.



It is the total lack of consideration that is forcing people to resort to using these. While there are some pranksters do you really beleive that the majority of people who are shelling out cash and taking the time to use these are actually trying to make this world a less courteous place? People using these are not the problem. People forcing people to resort to using these are the problem
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People using these are not the problem. People forcing people to resort to using these are the problem



And neither of these sets of people give a shit about the rest of us.



Blame the ones who forced others to resort to using these. Also as you may recall I did agree that if I got one I would not turn it on right away, but would wait until someone gave me a reason too. Again I am open to constructive solutions but right now this may get other cell-phone users to start policing the bad ones.
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People forcing people to resort to using these are the problem



Jesus tittyfucking christ, talk about the most retarded argument I've ever heard in my life! Everybody listen up, people using cellphones turned Richards into the monster he is today. He had NO choice!

Those crazy kids and their newfangled telephones! :P

Nobody "made" you resort to anything. There are always going to be assholes that you'll have to deal with in life. Punishing all cell phone users because you can't make yourself happy is like me running around and hitting everybody named Dick with a baseball bat because I think they'll be cranky. I'm just nipping the problem in the bud, aren't I. ;)

Your cantankerous nature is the part that's incompatible with today's society.

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>Is it critical that you get that call the instant it comes?

Sometimes, yes. I have a friend who runs a radiology practice - and sometimes they need her for a critical read ASAP. If they can't get her, then people can die.

>If a call was that absolutely urgent I would not be going to a theatre.
> What did people do before cell-phones?

Avoided theaters, restaurants etc altogether (if they needed to be near a phone.) A lot of people live better lives (and contribute to the economy) because they can do such things and be available for emergencies.

If your child was injured, and they needed your permission to treat him/her - I assume you would prefer to be asked immediately rather than wait 2 hours. Many people are in the same situation. They wish to be available for emergent and rare problems.

>There is no easy solution that will make all people happy.

Shielding for specific, clearly marked theaters and restaurants. That way people can choose which one they go to.

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Is it critical that you get that call the instant it comes? Can you not check your messages after the movie? If a call was that absolutely urgent I would not be going to a theatre. What did people do before cell-phones?



They wasted time sitting at their office or at home next to the phone. Me, I prefer modern times where we're not so stupid.

I presume you've never been on call. It doesn't mean you're working the whole time, or unable to do anything. Most times nothing happens. But if it does, you take care of the problem. (unfortunately, skydiving seems incompatible due to the distance and time latency of getting to the phone)



With my line of work, I've been on-call for the last 20-some years. I managed just fine without a cell phone until the last few years.

Edit to add: I don't "need" the cell phone now, but work has issued me one.

It's not always "all about you" (generic 'you').
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What we need is a device that can signal all phones to switch to silent mode. This would be a nice standard to ask the handset manufacturers to develop.



That is quite a cool idea but would require alot of technical advances (and invasion of privacy).

It would be very simple to provide a "vibrate mode" instruction to the software - but how does the theatre know your phone is present? The phone supplier can only locate you to approximately a few hundred square meters.

The only realistic solution is people starting to have some consideration.
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Jesus tittyfucking christ



Why not say holy buttfucking budda?

why not say Ass fucking Allah?

Why not say hey I am a dumbshit and I would like to offend a few people around here just because I can get away with it?

You know what, I am far from perfect, but I wanted to thank you for really fucking over people you may consider friends, by insulting their religous beliefs.

I have done so in the past and when it comes down to it, it was unfair and stupid of me, especially considering I am catholic.

Now whatever you pray to, be it a phallic symbol, or a large ball of tin foil, how about knocking off the crap you spew? OK?

Thanks.

My appologies in advance as I used those stupid terms merely to illustrate a point, I hope you will all understand.

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People forcing people to resort to using these are the problem



Jesus tittyfucking christ, talk about the most retarded argument I've ever heard in my life! Everybody listen up, people using cellphones turned Richards into the monster he is today. He had NO choice!

Those crazy kids and their newfangled telephones! :P

Nobody "made" you resort to anything. There are always going to be assholes that you'll have to deal with in life. Punishing all cell phone users because you can't make yourself happy is like me running around and hitting everybody named Dick with a baseball bat because I think they'll be cranky. I'm just nipping the problem in the bud, aren't I. ;)

Your cantankerous nature is the part that's incompatible with today's society.

.jim


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Jesus tittyfucking christ



Why not say holy buttfucking budda?

why not say Ass fucking Allah?

Why not say hey I am a dumbshit and I would like to offend a few people around here just because I can get away with it?

You know what, I am far from perfect, but I wanted to thank you for really fucking over people you may consider friends, by insulting their religous beliefs.

I have done so in the past and when it comes down to it, it was unfair and stupid of me, especially considering I am catholic.

Now whatever you pray to, be it a phallic symbol, or a large ball of tin foil, how about knocking off the crap you spew? OK?

Thanks.

My appologies in advance as I used those stupid terms merely to illustrate a point, I hope you will all understand.



Well Said.
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Jesus tittyfucking christ, talk about the most retarded argument I've ever heard in my life! Everybody listen up, people using cellphones turned Richards into the monster he is today. He had NO choice!



Before you fly off into hysterics read the bit I said about waiting until someone becomes a problem before I use it. Monster I am? Oh good lord....someone might be inconvenienced by having their phone conversation cut off. God forbid that in todays world someone shoud be inconvenienced. Apparently that is only supposed to happen to those of us who wish for some peace and quiet so we can get some work done. What kind of monster would do such a thing?

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Nobody "made" you resort to anything. There are always going to be assholes that you'll have to deal with in life.



I've dealt with far too many in the past few years. I simply wish to fight back. Oh boo-hoo a few cell-phone users might get cut off in the process. The world will not stop spinning on it's axis if that happenens you know.

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Punishing all cell phone users because you can't make yourself happy is like me running around and hitting everybody named Dick with a baseball bat because I think they'll be cranky. I'm just nipping the problem in the bud, aren't I. ;)



You are selectively reading my post to make your argument. I conceeded to Kelpdiver that I would only use it when someone is innappropriately using a cellphone. If I am in a theatre and someone has a loud sing-song chime and chooses to talk loudly I can simply end his conversation. I do not have to keep the damn thing on the whole time. Once his conversation is cut he has to try again and get cut again and so-on until he decides to leave the theatre and conduct his conversation somewhere that has "better reception". It does not have to be left on. Once I cut him off I can simply turn the jammer off and all of those good cell-phone users can still receive messages on vibrate mode which they will undoubtedly take outside the theatre. You are blowing this way out of proportion to make a straw man argument.

Yes I suppose hitting everyone named Dick (last name) with a bat guarantees that you will ultimately eliminate my crankiness from the world. I have certainly not advocated anything quite that extreme.

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Your cantankerous nature is the part that's incompatible with today's society.



Cantankerous? Never been called that before. Anyway, I was brought up to always take into account the effect my actions may have on others (yes I know someone will spin that statement against my desire to use this device). Todays society has no consideration. What would you do if you were a student and you could not get anything done at the school because jackasses with cellphones made no attempt to show any consideration for those around them and attempts to deal with the problem directly just led to unpleasant confrontations? Cell-phones are wonderful devices and can contribute greatly to todays society but they are a also a curse. Too many fuckheads couldn't give a flying motherfuck weather or not anyone around them can hear themselves think and these same assholes will basically tell you to fuck off if you try to quiet them down. Call security? Yeah right...like they ever do anything. Will a five second burst of cell-phone jamming frequency be that big of an inconvenience to the average person in a movie theatre, library or a restaurent? No. Where I am right now seems to have better etiquette with this sort of thing so I would not use it here, but don' expect me to suffer in silence if some fuckbag wants to scream his conversation to the whole world while I am trying to enjoy a mivie, diner or get some work done.
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>Is it critical that you get that call the instant it comes?

Sometimes, yes. I have a friend who runs a radiology practice - and sometimes they need her for a critical read ASAP. If they can't get her, then people can die.



Bill if I have to jam some dickhead for 3 whole seconds and coincidentally they try to call your freind (and get cut off) at that exact same second then they will call right back a second later. If they require faster time reaction than that I suspect your frind will not be on call but actually on the scene.

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>If a call was that absolutely urgent I would not be going to a theatre.
> What did people do before cell-phones?

Avoided theaters, restaurants etc altogether (if they needed to be near a phone.) A lot of people live better lives (and contribute to the economy) because they can do such things and be available for emergencies.



And so long as someone does not leave this on constantly no harm will be done. It can be used in bursts for a couple of seconds

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If your child was injured, and they needed your permission to treat him/her - I assume you would prefer to be asked immediately rather than wait 2 hours. Many people are in the same situation. They wish to be available for emergent and rare problems.



If I received a call (on silent buzz mode) at the same time some jackass on a cellphone 3 rows ahead of me was yelling into his cell-phone and all of a sudden he and I got cut off, I would simply look at my call display. If it was St. Michaels Hospital I would simply go "Oh Shit" and leave the theatre. To claim that using this device is goinng to result in loss of life is ridiculous.

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>There is no easy solution that will make all people happy.

Shielding for specific, clearly marked theaters and restaurants. That way people can choose which one they go to.



I agree. And until someone implements that perfect "make every-body happy" solution I will settle for using this device. I doubt my actions will cause the horrific calamities that some posters are claiming they will when I heinously victimize innocent cellphone users for all of two seconds in a movie theatre, monster that I am.
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What we need is a device that can signal all phones to switch to silent mode. This would be a nice standard to ask the handset manufacturers to develop.



That is quite a cool idea but would require alot of technical advances (and invasion of privacy).

It would be very simple to provide a "vibrate mode" instruction to the software - but how does the theatre know your phone is present? The phone supplier can only locate you to approximately a few hundred square meters.



If feasible, it wouldn't require the cell provider to do anything. It requires the handset makers to design the phone to respond to a signal broadcast by the theater to switch to silent mode.

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If feasible, it wouldn't require the cell provider to do anything. It requires the handset makers to design the phone to respond to a signal broadcast by the theater to switch to silent mode.

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Isn't that a bit over regulating behavior? :o

Next thing ya know the automobile makers will be installing buzzers and lights to remind us to buckle up. :S











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If feasible, it wouldn't require the cell provider to do anything. It requires the handset makers to design the phone to respond to a signal broadcast by the theater to switch to silent mode.

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Isn't that a bit over regulating behavior? :o

Next thing ya know the automobile makers will be installing buzzers and lights to remind us to buckle up. :S



The apt car analogy are the models that decide for you when to turn on the lights, since drivers apparently can't figure out that heavy rain is a good time.

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If feasible, it wouldn't require the cell provider to do anything. It requires the handset makers to design the phone to respond to a signal broadcast by the theater to switch to silent mode.



True I never thought of a secondary radio. You could probably do it over Bluetooth. It is apparantly very easy to "hack" bluetooth and I believe lots of people leave it permanently on.
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If feasible, it wouldn't require the cell provider to do anything. It requires the handset makers to design the phone to respond to a signal broadcast by the theater to switch to silent mode.



Let me see if I get this right.

We get the cellphone makers to design and install a feature that would be utilized about 1/10th of one percent of the time, a feature whose purpose is to avoid the occassional disturbance in the theater, while removing individuals of responsibility for adjusting their phone setting when they go see a movie.

Wow :o

Talk about innovation.

I'd like to be the one selling this brilliant idea to the board of Nokia. They'd love it.

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We get the cellphone makers to design and install a feature that would be utilized about 1/10th of one percent of the time, a feature whose purpose is to avoid the occassional disturbance in the theater, while removing individuals of responsibility for adjusting their phone setting when they go see a movie.



Have you looked at the feature set for phones these days?

and it wouldn't just be for movie theaters - quite a few venues would be appropriate for such- hospitals, churches, federal buildings, schools...

I personally think people have gotten better, but Richards insists it is a menace to human existence, so if so, this is one method to solving the problem. Certainly better than the illegal jamming solution.

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I personally think people have gotten better, but Richards insists it is a menace to human existence, so if so, this is one method to solving the problem. Certainly better than the illegal jamming solution.



I think Richard's point is that there are still inconsiderate assholes, who impose on everyone within earshot and that he'd like to be able to deliver a little vigilante justice.

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I personally think people have gotten better, but Richards insists it is a menace to human existence, so if so, this is one method to solving the problem. Certainly better than the illegal jamming solution.



I think Richard's point is that there are still inconsiderate assholes, who impose on everyone within earshot and that he'd like to be able to deliver a little vigilante justice.



But like many vigilantes, he's shooting everyone in sight, rather than actual criminals.

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I personally think people have gotten better, but Richards insists it is a menace to human existence,



Oh here we go with the hyperbole. I simply pointed out that there is a complete lack of courtesy and I am sick of idiots who want to scream their conversations to the whole world.
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I simply pointed out that there is a complete lack of courtesy and I am sick of idiots who want to scream their conversations to the whole world.

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Then do what I do.....simply walk up to those people and say loud enough for the party on the other end to hear, "Put down the phone and come back to bed baby!"

...man or woman, they usually turn red and stop talking! ;):ph34r:











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