JeffD 0 #1 November 4, 2007 http://www.gunfighter.com/waxbullets/ For home defense. I'm thinking these could serve two purposes. Noise, flash, pain as a scare tactic to get the intruder to leave. Since it is a 'gun' would it still be lethal force? Or be similar to chasing them off with a paintball gun. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #2 November 4, 2007 Quotehttp://www.gunfighter.com/waxbullets/ For home defense. I'm thinking these could serve two purposes. Noise, flash, pain as a scare tactic to get the intruder to leave. Since it is a 'gun' would it still be lethal force? Or be similar to chasing them off with a paintball gun.Gimme a break. Sheesh. Guns are meant to kill don't ya know.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JeffD 0 #3 November 4, 2007 QuoteGuns are meant to kill don't ya know. Not all guns, and not all people 'mean to kill.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akarunway 1 #4 November 5, 2007 Quote Quote Guns are meant to kill don't ya know. Not all guns, and not all people 'mean to kill.' I prefer paper targets myself. But all my friends and neighbors know I'm "Locked and Loaded" at all times.I hold it true, whate'er befall; I feel it, when I sorrow most; 'Tis better to have loved and lost Than never to have loved at all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LouDiamond 1 #5 November 5, 2007 Quote http://www.gunfighter.com/waxbullets/ For home defense. I'm thinking these could serve two purposes. Noise, flash, pain as a scare tactic to get the intruder to leave. Since it is a 'gun' would it still be lethal force? Or be similar to chasing them off with a paintball gun. Something we've used for years when we go "force on force" during training is called Simunitions FX. They hurt like all living hell when you get shot with them and its still possible to cause harm to life/eyesight/limb, there is no such thing a non lethal alternative, guns are made to shoot and kill people or animals. Personally, I think if someone broke into your house and you shot them with a wax bullet and they realized it, they would be more inclined to stay and cause you harm for causing them pain. Don't expect all criminals to think like the rest of society. There is a passage from the movie Grindhouse that I found to be absolutely spot on that sums up why most people own guns instead of "other" alternatives, plus I think its a funny passage. From the movie Grindhouse: Lee: You carry a gun? Kim: Uh-Huh. Lee: Do you have a license to carry it? Kim: Yeah, when I became a secret service agent, they gave me a license. Lee: Oh, I didn't know you were... Ok. I didn't say it. Stop looking at me. I didn't say it. God! Did you know Kim carried a gun? Abernathy: Yes. Yeah. Do I approve? No. Do I know? Yes. Kim: I don't know what futuristic utopia you live in, but in the world I live in, a bitch need a gun. Abernathy: You can't get around the fact that people who carry guns, tend to get shot more than people who don't. Kim: And you can't get around the fact that if I go down to the laundry room in my building at midnight enough times, I might get my ass raped! Lee: Don't do your laundry at midnight. Kim: Fuck that! I wanna do my laundry whenever the fuck I want to do my laundry. Abernathy: There are other things you can carry other then a gun. Pepper spray. Kim: Uh, muthafucka tryin to rape me, I don't want to give him a skin rash. I wanna shot that nigga down! Abernathy: How about a knife at least. Kim: Yeah, you know what happens to muthafuckas who carry knives. They get shot! Look, if I ever become a famous actress, I won't carry a gun. I'll hire me a dude dirt nigga and he'll carry the gun, and when shit goes down, I'll sit back and laugh, but until that day, it's wild west muthafucka!"It's just skydiving..additional drama is not required" Some people dream about flying, I live my dream SKYMONKEY PUBLISHING Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quade 4 #6 November 5, 2007 If you're actually buying a gun for real life self defense, to me it makes no sense whatsoever to use anything that isn't going to absolutely, 100% stop the assailant. I would say that paintball guns and wax bullets put you in more danger, not less.quade - The World's Most Boring Skydiver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nanook 1 #7 November 5, 2007 Simunition! fun(ouch) times!! My baptism into the pain started with me playing the bad guy(with a 9mm against my shipmates with M16s). Those bastards did not have to empty their whole magazines on me. Thanks guys!! Despite all that, I had more fun than pain even though I had to convince my wife that I was not coming down with the ringworm. _____________________________ "The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you can never know if they are genuine" - Abraham Lincoln Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warpedskydiver 0 #8 November 5, 2007 Just remember, head shots will result in team member holding the offender by the arms while the person who was shot in the head fires one into the offenders groin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites