ryoder 1,590 #26 November 5, 2007 Well DSE, this time we agree COMPLETELY! "There are only three things of value: younger women, faster airplanes, and bigger crocodiles" - Arthur Jones. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #27 November 5, 2007 Quote Speaking of megalomania... Quote"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the President." - Hillary Clinton CDIT version 2.0? Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #28 November 5, 2007 QuoteQuote Speaking of megalomania... Quote"I'm not going to have some reporters pawing through our papers. We are the President." - Hillary Clinton CDIT version 2.0? Nope...megalomania version X.Y. But it SURE didn't take 'the faithful' long to jump back in with a series of Bush quotes, did it?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #29 November 5, 2007 Quote But it SURE didn't take 'the faithful' long to jump back in with a series of Bush quotes, did it? Well...if we're not entitled to judge Bush on what he says, should we better judge him on what he does? At which point of near-criminality shall we begin? Upon leaving office, George W. is poised to become the most wealthy former president of all time. I don't believe the word "Dynasty" has ever been applied to the presidency in the past. To save you the trouble; "Clinton got a BJ." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #30 November 5, 2007 Quote Quote But it SURE didn't take 'the faithful' long to jump back in with a series of Bush quotes, did it? Well...if we're not entitled to judge Bush on what he says, should we better judge him on what he does? At which point of near-criminality shall we begin? *yawn* If you've got the proof, then IMPEACH him... all the whining about 'criminality' becomes boring, otherwise. Quote Upon leaving office, George W. is poised to become the most wealthy former president of all time. I don't believe the word "Dynasty" has ever been applied to the presidency in the past. To save you the trouble; "Clinton got a BJ." What, class envy AGAIN? BTW, research proves you wrong. Top 5 Richest Presidents 1. George Washington, 1789-1797 2. John F. Kennedy, 1961-1963 3. Andrew Jackson, 1829-1837 4. Lyndon B. Johnson, 1963-1969 5. Herbert Hoover, 1929-1933Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #31 November 5, 2007 QuoteUpon leaving office, George W. is poised to become the most wealthy former president of all time. What are you talking about? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #32 November 5, 2007 "poised." Look up the meaning of the word. to become drawn up into readiness He's got a lot of mouths he's currently feeding, who in turn will feed him once he's out. One good deed deserves another. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #33 November 5, 2007 Quote"poised." Look up the meaning of the word. to become drawn up into readiness He's got a lot of mouths he's currently feeding, who in turn will feed him once he's out. One good deed deserves another. Wow...all that conspiracy theory proof, and still no impeachment? No wonder y'all are bitter over anything GW does... But speaking of "getting fed"... QuoteFormer President Clinton made more than $10 million in paid speeches last year, according to new filings that show he and his presidential-candidate wife have at least $10 million in the bank, and may have closer to $50 million. According to financial disclosure forms made public Thursday, Bill and Hillary Rodham Clinton hold two accounts, each valued at somewhere between $5 and $25 million. One is an old-fashioned bank account; the other is a blind trust. Looks like there's a whole LOT of slopping at the trough... I wonder how much of that is coming from the Chinese? He sure didn't get much for selling off the missile tech, did he?Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #34 November 5, 2007 Quote"poised." Look up the meaning of the word. to become drawn up into readiness "Conjecture" - Look up the meaning of the word. guess; speculation Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DSE 5 #35 November 5, 2007 I'd like to say that "your guess is as good as mine" but historically, it isn't. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SkyDekker 1,465 #36 November 5, 2007 are you at all capable of having a discussion about Bush without throwing in CDIF? It is so incredibly kindergarden. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #37 November 5, 2007 Quote I'd like to say that "your guess is as good as mine" but historically, it isn't. Life in Doug's world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NCclimber 0 #38 November 5, 2007 Quote are you at all capable of having a discussion about Bush without throwing in CDIF? It is so incredibly kindergarden. Except when it's used to show Bush isn't the first president to demonstrate a certain behavior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #39 November 5, 2007 Quote are you at all capable of having a discussion about Bush without throwing in CDIF? Quote Okay, I'll admit I'm clueless on this one. What does "CDIT" or "CDIF" mean ? C. diff is a Clostridium bacterial species ... but I don't think that's what any of you are writing about ... but I could be wrong.VR/Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JackC 0 #40 November 5, 2007 QuoteI am still amazed at how scattered the attacks against our President are. They can't attack him on the economy, education, prescription drugs or even the war or foreign policy. Fookin spiders, the shite that gets posted around here. Is it a deliberate ploy to send all the dems off chasing their tails? A sort of modern McCarthyism? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
masterblaster72 0 #41 November 5, 2007 Sorry, they're acronyms for us serial SC posters. CDIT = Clinton Did It Too CDIF = Clinton Did It First Be humble, ask questions, listen, learn, follow the golden rule, talk when necessary, and know when to shut the fuck up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #42 November 5, 2007 CDIF - Clinton did it first It's intellectually lazy to point out that previous admins are just as corrupt as the current one. So from the right, it's an interesting point, but doesn't help if the goal is to eliminate corruption rather than rationalize it. However, lefties really resent it also. As they like to pretend their side is perfect and hate to be reminded it's not. Even though it's their favorite tactic going the other way. one could likely as easily post about any president doing anything first and it would likely be accurate - holding up unflattering truths about Clinton (lefties LOVE him and pretend he was perfect) is about as distasteful as doing the same to righties on Reagan. (in both cases, the terms "panties" and "wad" come to mind nearly simultaneously) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nerdgirl 0 #43 November 5, 2007 Thanks for the clarification. /Marg Act as if everything you do matters, while laughing at yourself for thinking anything you do matters. Tibetan Buddhist saying Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #44 November 6, 2007 QuoteCDIF - Clinton did it first It's intellectually lazy to point out that previous admins are just as corrupt as the current one. So from the right, it's an interesting point, but doesn't help if the goal is to eliminate corruption rather than rationalize it. However, lefties really resent it also. As they like to pretend their side is perfect and hate to be reminded it's not. Even though it's their favorite tactic going the other way. one could likely as easily post about any president doing anything first and it would likely be accurate - holding up unflattering truths about Clinton (lefties LOVE him and pretend he was perfect) is about as distasteful as doing the same to righties on Reagan. (in both cases, the terms "panties" and "wad" come to mind nearly simultaneously) It's really an idioic admission by the right. Righty says: 1) Clinton committed XYZ 2) Actions XYZ relegate Cinton to being scummy 3) Our party does the same things Clinton did, therefore our party is scummy. Kind of a sylogism, but the logic pattern is an acknowledgment that he right is scum, just that they think the lft is too. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #45 November 6, 2007 QuoteIt's really an idioic admission by the right. agreed - very much like the idiotic denial by the left when it happens (lalalalalalala - i can't hear you - lalalalalalala) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mnealtx 0 #46 November 6, 2007 Nice bit of illogic, there....I'll correct. 1. Dems crow about a Republican getting caught in some sort of scandal or generally make some sort of slur. 2. Evidence is shown that the Dems have been caught in the same shit or equally as shitty as their example in 1), above. 3. Dems try the "CDIF" defense...usually by way of the RDIF / GHWDIF defense or the Lewinsky Redirect (always a crowd pleaser). 4. Dems (again) fail to realize that their own party is equally as scummy as they accuse the Reps of being.Mike I love you, Shannon and Jim. POPS 9708 , SCR 14706 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rehmwa 2 #47 November 6, 2007 QuoteNice bit of illogic, there....I'll correct. ....... 4. Dems (again) fail to realize that their own party is equally as scummy as they accuse the Reps of being. they are only hypocrits if they fail to call out there own (or even defend) yet try to take action on the other party's teammember (goes both ways) ... Driving is a one dimensional activity - a monkey can do it - being proud of your driving abilities is like being proud of being able to put on pants Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
livendive 8 #48 November 6, 2007 Quote"I will never apologize for the United States of America - I don't care what the facts are." I think this one was by George H.W. Bush, and it referred to the U.S.S. Vincennes shooting down an Iranian commercial airliner, killing some 300 innocent civilians. Blues, Dave"I AM A PROFESSIONAL EXTREME ATHLETE!" (drink Mountain Dew) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #49 November 6, 2007 QuoteQuoteIt's really an idioic admission by the right. agreed - very much like the idiotic denial by the left when it happens (lalalalalalala - i can't hear you - lalalalalalala) 1) Clinton committed XYZ 2) Actions XYZ relegate Cinton to being scummy 3) Our party does the same things Clinton did, therefore our party is scummy. No, no, what I'm pointing out is that even if you decide to unilatterally drag the left in, not that I agree or disagree, you are admitting the right is scummy, juts trying to mitigate it by dragging the left in. If you wanted to deny and create evidence to that contention/defense, well, you would, but you prefer to look for company rather than to deny. I don't expect you to understand that simple reasoning, but instead insist that the right is "normal" because "everyone" does it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucky... 0 #50 November 7, 2007 Quote. >>>>>>>1. Dems crow about a Republican getting caught in some sort of scandal or generally make some sort of slur. No, Dems crow about the party that advertises relief from social ills like adultry, homosexuality and all the other moral corruption, is the one actually perpetuating it at all or a a much higher rate than the party they advertise to protect society from. >>>>>>>>>>>2. Evidence is shown that the Dems have been caught in the same shit or equally as shitty as their example in 1), above. Sure, just not now. Sorry, I'll buy you a calandar if you wish, but Carter is no longer in office and LBJ's VNis far over. If you wish to talk history we can, but if you want to talk contemporary politics to establish who is CURRENTLY the best party for America then we can't LOGICALLY go back that far. Mike, is it intelligent to refer to FDR, Hoover or George Washington when we decide who to vote for in 2008? Of course not, so let's talk the last 10-20-30 years, that makes more logical sense. >>>>>>>>>3. Dems try the "CDIF" defense...usually by way of the RDIF / GHWDIF defense or the Lewinsky Redirect (always a crowd pleaser). Actually the CDIF is not a Dem defense, it is a Republican rationalization. WHat did Clinton do first? Balance the budget? Bring some rights and opportunity back to the people? Get a blowjob while in office and the Oval Office? I highly doubt it, I bet the walls could tell some stories. I doubt Clinton did many things first. >>>>>>usually by way of the RDIF / GHWDIF defense Repubs did it first / GHW Bush DIF? Uh, when did Bush senior play into this? Are you trying to write GW Bush? Again, I don't think any of these entities did anything first. What are the Dems claiming the Repubs did first and as a defense to what? (go ahead and skip over that one Mikey) >>>>>>>>>>>4. Dems (again) fail to realize that their own party is equally as scummy as they accuse the Reps of being. Did the Dems: A) Run the debt from 1T to 9+T and climbing? B) Order wiretaps and now try to immunize telecom companies for their role? C) Slam the US$ from 1USD = 1CD TO 1.06USD = 1CD? D) Gain world hate E) Have many Repub figures commit lewd acts while impeaching Clinton for lying about sexual indescencies and performing homosexual acts? F) And many, many others..... BTW, how's your boy Trent Lott, you know, the one who was calling for Clinton's head for lying about a BJ, then discovered to be fucking his secretary while being married to another? Oh, it was about the lie, not the BJ? OK< how's your boy Scooter Libby, the one who did the same thing as Clinton, lied to Congress and was pardoned from prison by the king dickhead? Can you understand now, Mike? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites